I've done my due diligence in reading everything I can about Hi Points. Those that have or do own and shoot them seem to be pretty positive about the guns although alot of those that have never shot them seem to think they are trash. I bought my 9mm compact today ($129) and although I haven't shot it yet, it looks and feels pretty good. Not as well finished as my SA 1911. Probably go to the range tomorrow and will report back.