leedesert: Too bad IWBs don't work for you..they really are about the best way to conceal a large frame semi-auto. A high rise pancake design like you already have is probably your next best choice. I would also recommend that you only use a double thickness GUNBELT to carry with, if you're not alreadyn doing so. Using a thin, dress slacks belt will telegraph the butt of the weapon extremely quickly, plus the weapon will flop around like a fish. Other good mass produced holsters are Galco and Safariland. If you don't mind the $, a custom leather hi-rise pancake type by Rosen, Sparks, Kramer or Rybka are great. They can provide superb designs and workmanship. If your interested in Kydex, Blade-tech, Ky-Tac and Mad Dog can help you out. I have owned leather holsters made by Milt Sparks and Kydex made by Blade-Tech. I feel comfortable recommending either one.