Ok for the first question had no luck this year. But it was the first hunt for my son and I, and my first hunt in about 10 years. So i guess that it was not expected to be sucessfull, some what rusty at this but alot of it came back to me. There were so many dang DEER I dont know why they have limited the number of licences here. Any one else have any reports for colorado I was in area 17.