Well then, keep thinkin' and maybe someone will throw the light switch on for you, because I said when someone makes a PROGRESSIVE press that would hold tolerances like what Kayser achieved, without the use of a micrometer seating die, I will buy one, meaning PROGRESSIVE press, not LEE dies. If you're happy with LEE dies, God bless you! I didn't start at this last week and I don't condescend to anyone that has something that works for them. Lee products don't work for me and I believe in almost all cases, a quality control oriented handloader will upgrade eventually. If you are using LEE and it works for you, by all means, stick with it!