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Sisco
December 20, 2001, 04:18 PM
Anyone else seen one of these critters? A co-worker got his deer this season, mule deer body, whitetail antlers. Another guy told me a few years ago his son killed a small buck, whitetail antler on one side, mule deer on the other. (didn't actually see that one).

Bottom Gun
December 20, 2001, 04:38 PM
There are a lot of them around here. I almost shot one by mistake last year.
The whitetail bucks will mate with mulie does and the results are these hybrids.
The mulie bucks will not mate with whitetail does because they can't catch them.
At least that's what a Game and Fish officer told us.

By the way he also said if I had shot this hybrid, I could have been busted since they do not consider it to be a whitetail and we had whitetail tags. I would imagine the same would hold true for a person with a mule deer tag.

C.R.Sam
December 20, 2001, 05:33 PM
The Bambi huggers are insuring that the Whitetail will take over the whole bloomin continent. Already crowded out some native species and goin for more.

Sam

Bottom Gun
December 20, 2001, 05:41 PM
The lions have been keeping them in check down south here.
G&F says that's why they've been kind of scarce here lately.

slick slidestop
December 20, 2001, 10:35 PM
I had read in a Hunting magazine that someone put Mule deer on their land (not indigenous to this particular part of Texas) in an effort to get big deer genetics into some of the Whitetail on their property, and within one year the Whitetail Bucks killed every one of them.

The lowly Whitetail reportedly are some real bada##es and can whup the Mule deer.

Don't know if it's true or not, but thats what I read.

yorec
December 21, 2001, 06:34 AM
My wife's first deer was a cross. Three points either side, pretty little buck.

As far as which is meaner - everyone knows that whitetails ain't right in the head during the rut - mulies may be bigger and stronger, but you can't beat crazy!

Art Eatman
December 21, 2001, 04:51 PM
Some west Texas ranchers in mule deer country will shoot any whitetail they see, anytime.

The whitetail bucks are more agressive about mating. Mulies tend to sorta hang out and wait for volunteer does, mostly. Also, they apparently go into rut later. Too much later, I guess. Early bird and all that...

SFAIK, in Texas, the "code of the west" is that a muletail is counted as a whitetail; that season is longer, more typically can be taken, and it's a help to the mule deer herd dynamics.

Art

H&H,hunter
December 21, 2001, 09:29 PM
One of the leases we hunt up in north TX has both whietails and mulies. Whats the deal on shooting a mule-tail during whitetail season and vice versa. Does the TX DGF care, will they make an issue out of it?

Art Eatman
December 21, 2001, 10:36 PM
Don't have a Texas TP&WD rulebook handy, but the whitetail season is right at two months long, beginning in early November.

The Panhandle mule deer season is earlier than the Trans-Pecos, but SFAIK is only 16 days, total. (The Trans-Pecos season always opens the Saturday following Thanksgiving.)

Where the seasons are open at the same time, either species may be taken.

The caveat is that this year, TP&WD has instituted "areas" or "zones" and there are also some county-specific rules. Takes a lot more reading than in the past.

Art

SnakeLover
December 22, 2001, 11:26 AM
My first buck, a east river South Dakota whitetail in 1983, has a perfect five point whitetail rack on it's left side and the right side has a pair of mulie forks and sprouts 6 points. There is a small mulie population in that area to this day, but I haven't seen any other bucks like this one. I'll see if I can get a picture of it to post.

Snake

Sisco
December 22, 2001, 08:43 PM
The "What if" question that comes to mind:
In Western KS we find lots of deer in CRP grass, waist to head high. What if... you had a whitetail only permit and saw only head & shoulders. Looks like a whitetail to me!
By law the deer is a Mulie, would the mistaken idenity defense hold up?

Art Eatman
December 22, 2001, 09:16 PM
SK, the horns are distinctly different; it should become a problem only if a hunter's reflexes are wired into "If it has horns, I shoot!"

Depending on the judge, ignorance might affect the penalty, but it may well not affect a finding of "Guilty."

:), Art

JosephBoeckner
December 22, 2001, 11:47 PM
i havent ever heard of that but i guess its possible-i am from hays-where r u from SK-i will ask my grandfather and uncle-from greatbend-he bow hunts/rifle hunts whitetail and might hunt mulie-i dont know-i'll ask em if they have heard of that happening and if so any stories on monday-where did he get that deer?-out at the black powder range we belong to-18 miles north of hays-on yoceminto road-on the way to plainville-we saw about 5 mulies crossing hte road there one time about 7 miles away from it-almost ran em over-and then up the road about 1 mile from the shooting range we saw 2 fawns and a doe abuot 4 months ago-i think-i guess they live pretty close together so i geuss its really possible for the crosses