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biganimal
December 15, 2001, 09:58 AM
has anyone used the black powder replacement called CLEAN SHOT POWDER ?
If so what are your findings?
Does it come up to snuff? Is it a suitable replacement for blackpowder and pyrodex?
Any comments on it all will be appreciated.

ed mason
December 16, 2001, 11:10 PM
there are two(to my knowledge) black powder subsitutes on the market right now.

clearshot by Goex and clean shot (maker unknown.)

In regards to the clear shot I can say it is a very good subsitute for black powder but it need'S a ignition source that is a little hotter than the #11 caps(musket or 209).The #11 will work but there is a obvious delay.

I have no experiance with clearshot.STAY AWAY FROM A COMPANY CALLED BLACK CANYON.IT IS JUNK!!!!

Wildwilley
December 19, 2001, 06:34 AM
These substitutes are whats called, "clean firing."
It doesn't leave a corrosive residue like BP.
This means that for those of us who don't clean right away, we will have less pitting and corrosian.

You should clean asap with BP.
But if you can't or don't have time to do it well. Store your firearm in a dry even temp area. Moisture is your enemy, if you keep it dry you can wait some time before you clean.

biganimal
December 19, 2001, 11:13 AM
wildwilly
I have been shooting and building bp firearms for over 25 years so I know about blackpowder and cleaning . What I don't know about is a new product on the market called "Clean Shot Powder". I am thinking about selling it in my shop but don't want to waste my time and $$$ if it isn't any good performance wise.
The ads I've seen tout this powder as a cleaner alternative to BP & pyrodex.

4V50 Gary
December 19, 2001, 01:54 PM
Love to try it, but at $18-20 a can for cleanshot, I'll stick with blackpowder that's affordable.

Wildwilley
December 20, 2001, 02:20 PM
The marketing is done tword the occasional BP hunter.
I have seen it used, and the performance was equal to BP.
It's expensive but a can of powder last a long time if your only shooting season to season.
I have even seen it shot indoors. It gives off less smoke than regular BP.
I was at an Ohio Gun Collectors Show a few years back in Cleavland.
The shot of about 40 rounds indoors. It was loud, but no great white clouds could be seen.
Again, it's expensive. But for the occasional hunter/shooter it should sell. I think that is your marketing aspect.
I wonder how it would work in cartriges?
The less smoke aspect might be a plus in Cowboy Action Shooting.

mcneill
December 20, 2001, 05:44 PM
What fun is it if it don't smoke?:D

Fatelvis
December 20, 2001, 06:37 PM
I use ONLY Cleanshot in my .58, .54, and .45 rifles/ Ruger Old Army, and it works great! You can treat it like smokeless, as far as shooting, and putting the weapon away for a month before cleaning it, without any rusting/pitting. Believe me, I`ve done it, many times, but not by choice!

biganimal
December 21, 2001, 09:08 AM
well I'm gonna bite the bullet and order a case of the stuff and see how it works and sells. By the way I can sell it cheaper than $18-$20 per lb.

jpm63
December 21, 2001, 09:45 AM
Clean Shot (Not the GOEX Clear Shot) works great is cap guns. It ignites at a lower temperature than Pyrodex and is very repeatable. It does make lots of white smoke, just smells different. It leaves essentially no fouling, just a white looking film which the maker says acts like a lube. I still use lube ;)

Yes it is expensive, but my last can of GOEX was $11 and the benefit of not having to worry about cleaning right away is nice.

I have heard of folks using it in a flinter with success if you still prime with BP. However I find this silly since I like to load and prime from the same horn.

Used to have an article on it that was published in Michigan Outdoors, but I can no longer find it.

JPM

ed mason
December 22, 2001, 08:56 PM
for what its worth I see a lot of dealers having to discount the "cleanshot" because the packaging is so plain.

The local cabelas cant keep the "clearshot" from goex in stock!!!!!!

www.goexpowder.com

4V50 Gary
December 26, 2001, 03:05 PM
Just got 2 cans of cleanshot for Xmas. I'll do a report on it after I get to the range.