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CMichael
December 6, 2001, 04:20 PM
I was looking throught he Mossberg catalog.

They advertised a double action shotgun.

What is the point of having a double action shotgun?

Michael :cool:

Dave McC
December 6, 2001, 05:32 PM
Can't answer that one, Michael. Going to a heavier, longer pull is going in the wrong direction. IMO, it's an attempt to upgrade the hardware to compensate for lack of training, and even lack of reasonably competent personnel. But it's hard to make things foolproof, fools are so %&*@#$%^& ingenious.

This travesty is a "Lawyer's Trigger". When guns are designed by anyone other than engineers and users, they get worse, not better.

( Dismounting from soapbox)...

GALEO
December 7, 2001, 12:43 AM
Mossberg came out with the DA shotgun for law enforcement. The theory is that police officers undergo alot more training and practice firing their DA handguns, and not alot of training with tactical shotguns, so Mossberg created a trigger pull that mimicks that of a DA handgun. This was supposed to have a two-fold end result. 1) reduce the chance of and accidental discharge, and 2) improve accuracy. I have heard no response from the LE community as to the likes/dislikes of this "feature". I agree, more training and practice would be a "better" answer than equipment modification, but as much minimum training and recertification as police officers have to go through, if we keep adding training classes, we will spend all of our time in a classroom instead of protecting and enforcement.

Dave McC
December 7, 2001, 06:24 AM
GALEO, any officer that does not practice on his/her own time is dangerous to the wrong people, and no equipment mod will make up for that. I saw it hundreds of times when I was instructing. The ONLY Officers that were more than barely competent with the shotgun were those that used one recreationally.

Case in point, how often does your agency require officers to"Qualify"? Annually, quarterly?
Unless your COF is truly Micky Mouse, the folks who do not practice on their own time are the ones out there sweating it out.

Reducing the chances of a UD is done by teaching and practicing safe handling.

If a long heavy trigger pull can aid accuracy, the benchresters would all have 40 lb triggers on those sub MOA machines.

C.R.Sam
December 7, 2001, 11:16 AM
We have had handguns for a while that required quite a bit of pressure to pull the trigger. And along with that, quite a few people who now think little of resting the trigger finger on the trigger when NOT ready to fire. Resulting in some startle reflex NDs. Now we have the opportunity to emulate this with the shotguns.

So sad.

Sam

CMichael
December 7, 2001, 06:35 PM
Thanks for responding to my question guys :)

Michael :cool: