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Hal
November 25, 2001, 08:43 AM
I'd be interested enough to consider one with a 3 to 5 inch barrel if it's possible. I doubt if I'd ever run more than a few .454's through it, but like using a .357 magnum with mostly .38's it's nice to have the option. Maybe a couple just for the gee whizz factor. It would be more for using mid to heavy .45 Colt loads.

WESHOOT2
November 25, 2001, 09:32 AM
Perhaps you'd be just as well served ballistically with a 5.5" 45 Redhawk, and with a less expensive easier-holstering handier-balanced available-NOW piece.

Or.....

Contact Hamilton Bowen, Jim Stroh, John Linebaugh, or Gary Reeder.

mobias
November 25, 2001, 10:35 AM
Oh, man.

Hal
November 25, 2001, 11:32 AM
Mods:
This might be better for the Smithy section. Can ya move it for me please?

W2,
Thanks for the names. Bowen looks like the only one that does SRH's. The 5.5" may be better, but I really want something more than a heavy .45 Colt. $$ and/or time aren't the determining factors.

Jbar4Ranch
November 25, 2001, 11:34 AM
Another short barreled (http://www.rugerforum.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001128.html) fan. Not me BTW.

Mal H
November 25, 2001, 01:48 PM
RAE - done.

WESHOOT2
November 26, 2001, 05:08 AM
I believe all those listed WILL do it. Some MAY have done it.

Let us know...............

MADISON
November 27, 2001, 11:36 AM
SAY WHAT !!!
In that large a caliber the unburned powder would probablly be 50%. The flame out the muzzle would be tremendous. The noise/muzzle blast would be close your hearing for a week.

C.R.Sam
November 27, 2001, 12:04 PM
Cool. An excuse to work up Bullseye or Red Dot loads for a cannon.

Sam..bang is good, BANG is more gooder......eh ?

Steve Smith
November 27, 2001, 02:23 PM
RAE, I think you're going in the wrong direction. The .454 Casull requires a decent length barrel for the powder to burn properly. The .45 Colt will do almost everything a .454 will do, but at significantly lower pressure. Besides, the .454 Casull requires very high pressure to do anything more than the .45 Colt...without the barrel length, there's much less pressure. The recoil impulse and the blast from the Casull load is significant, to say the least...so significant that I don't think you'l be pleased with it.

Hal
November 28, 2001, 06:30 AM
Sam,
:D
Really, I'm thinking more along the line of using LIL'GUN. LIL'GUN has some pretty impressive numbers at about half of what a .454 Casull is designed to handle.


Steve,
The idea of using a .454 Casull as the base is because I already have a Ruger Blackhawk and a Winchester Trapper in .45 Colt. The loading I'm thinking of working up is well below .454 Casull, but above the max for .45 Colt.

KISS applies here. I want there to be no way, no how that these *pills* ever get into either of them.

Steve Smith
November 28, 2001, 03:49 PM
There is no "in between .45 Colt and .454 Casull." The heavy .45 Colt loads beat the mild .454 loads.

Hal
November 28, 2001, 07:27 PM
not according to the data from Hodgdon:

.45 Colt
260 GR. NOS PART(Maximum Loads)
DIA. .451
COL: 1.650"

LIL'GUN 21.0gr 1312fps 30,000 CUP

.454
260 GR. FA JFP
COL: 1.765"

LIL'GUN 35.5 1895 37,900 CUP

Sorry Steve, I'm far more comfortable with the idea of trying 30 gr of Lil' Gun under a 260 gr in the .454 case than I am going 9 gr over Hodgdon's published max for the .45 Colt.

zot
November 29, 2001, 08:03 PM
barrel twist .454 is 1" in 24" , .45 colt is 1" in 16",stabilizing a heavy bullet in a .454 with a 3" barrel would be hard,5" would be
possible, a Ruger .45 colt Redhawk would come from Ruger with a 5" barrel.

Hal
November 30, 2001, 02:16 AM
zot,
Thank you. That's helpful to know.

Waterdog
December 4, 2001, 01:07 AM
I remember in my hotrodding days, some guys were putting big block motors in vegas and pintos.

This practice turned those vehicles into junk.

Junk hotrods weren't worth a squat.

Waterdog

Alaska Roy
December 4, 2001, 06:45 PM
I've seen and shot several of the SRHs with the shortest one the front sight was resoldered right up against the SRH frame. All of them were refinished by simply bead blasting all that grey crud off with #220 AO or finer. The gun really looks better with the matte silver finish.
One of the locals even did a shade tree job in the garage with the Brownells barrel crowning kit and a little solder on the front sight.

zot
December 5, 2001, 12:59 AM
RAE, would this gun have lazer and red dot sights?I was just thinking ultimate CCW gun?:D