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Foxy
November 5, 2001, 11:19 AM
I'm still glowing over it, so I thought I'd come over and share my story :)

We were out plinking at my local shooting spot. Just as we were about to pack it up and call it a day, this gentleman comes over and identifies himself as a NRA representative. He says that he'd appreciate our help to clean up all the brass, targets, and other junk that people haul out to the shooting spot and leave there. Our incentive? He'll let each of us dump a mag from his AKS-47. Naturally, we agree :)

It was surprisingly fun.

I've never fired anything fully automatic before, so it was definately an experience for me. I did several 2-3 round bursts at a target about 25 yards away, and managed to keep them all fairly tightly grouped. Then I just held down the trigger and was suprised how quickly the rifle climbed. 30 rounds just doesn't last long enough unfortunately :)

Still, for all of you who have C3 weapons, I am even more jealous than I was two days ago!

KSFreeman
November 5, 2001, 12:09 PM
Cute trick. I must try this.

I'll let you shoot mine if you stop with the Class 3 stuff (pet peeve, drives me nuts).

Justin
November 6, 2001, 01:15 AM
Hey, KS, I'd be willing to do range clean up if it meant I could put a few rounds through some exotic hardware.


I'll never forget the first full-auto I fired, it was a Stoner 63. It was a blast. And then I got to put a couple mags through a vintage Thompson. I'm not quite sure what happened, but I damn near had a religious experience right there on the range. ;)

That was one day I'll never forget.

KSFreeman
November 6, 2001, 06:19 PM
O.K., caliban, just don't use Class 3 when I'm around. (Grumpy old man voice): It does drives me nuts.

Foxy
November 6, 2001, 10:20 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't know any better. Just a newbie to full auto goodness.

Why exactly does it bug you?

Justin
November 7, 2001, 01:03 PM
I have to admit to being kinda curious about that myself.
Does it have anything to do with the fact that it's sort of an 'artificial' government label?

:confused:

KSFreeman
November 7, 2001, 01:36 PM
Sorry to be grumpy, guys. If you say Class 3, people know what you are describing. Title and class came into being with the Safe Streets Act of 1968 which ended crime in America.

"Class" refers to the type of FFL. Class 1 is Wal-Mart; Class 10 is Stenbridge in Hollywood.

"Title" refers to the type of weapon. Two kinds--NFA and non-NFA. Title I is non-NFA stuff; Title II is the NFA stuff--AoWs, DDs, MGs, suppressors, et al.

Justin
November 7, 2001, 04:05 PM
So in essence, you can't have a class III weapon, only a class III dealer who sells NFA title II weapons.

If I'm off base on that, say so.

KSFreeman
November 7, 2001, 04:29 PM
Yeah, caliban, think of it as this: the Class 3 thing is sort of like Xerox. Since most people bought photocopiers from Xerox, it became a verb "xeroxing." "Did you Xerox [photocopy] the charges and police reports for the client?"

Same thing with machine guns, since most people buy machine guns from a Class 3 dealer, it became common parlance to call MGs "Class 3" weapons. Some "Class 3" dealers are also DD manufacturers, dealers in explosives, manufacturers of MGs, etc. and have licenses on top of the Class 3. Thus, do you call a machine gun you purchase from them a Class 6 or 8???

This is an extremely fine point and outside federal court I have not heard it used properly (even by NFA dealers).

Billy Bremner
November 7, 2001, 05:38 PM
I recently shot an AK-47 (well, Norinko MAK-90) with a "trigger enhancer" that simulates full automatic fire. The gun is not a machine gun, rather a semi-automatic with a USA legal, ah, device.

It takes a little practice, but one can empty a 30 round magazine inunder 3 seconds.

Wm.

buzz_knox
November 7, 2001, 05:49 PM
My first was a MP-5K set up as a PDW. :) May, 1997. My brother-in-law and I were getting over a mutually bad week so we decided to take our minds off things. It definitely did.

Fly320s
November 9, 2001, 03:16 PM
My first meeting with a MG (or NFA or whatever) was sponsored by Uncle Sam.

My next meeting with a NFA was last Sunday at the Tusco fun shoot south of Canton, OH. That was a .40SW variety of MP5. I don't remeber the proper designator, only that the owner is a NFA dealer from Columbus.

Man, that was fun. I'd like to have one of those someday.

mept
November 10, 2001, 12:28 AM
I have a FEG 22 caal pistol that shoots thrree round bursts or full auto when using federal gold ammo. Only problem is the seven round mag

mgnew
November 12, 2001, 11:44 PM
I have to agree with you folks shooting MG's is a lot of fun.The place to make your dream come true is at the Knob Creek Gun Range just south of Louisville KY. it's the largest gathering of MG's in the country. They have a rental line on saturday of the shoot and you can rent about anything you can imagin.
Here's there web site:
http://www.machinegunshoot.com/
You will find the dates and time of the next shoot there.
KC I hope none of this offends you I might have misspelled some words.
Give us a break.