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joseywales
November 3, 2001, 11:57 PM
Anyone have suggestions as to the best approach for keeping a HD shotgun readily accessible, yet secure from children?

Simplex-locked steel boxes (AMSEC, Palmer Security, Mossberg, Gunvault, etc.) that one keeps by a nightstand can make a pistol readily accessible with just a quick touch.

Thanks.

PreserveFreedom
November 4, 2001, 03:07 AM
http://www.mossberg.com/locbox.htm

http://www.mossberg.com/loc-box_closet.jpg

Interlude
November 4, 2001, 03:47 PM
Hmm... I was under the impression that you should store shotguns with the stock at the top (facing up toward the ceiling) rather than what's in that picture. Something about preventing lubricant from collecting on the stock.

Brooks
November 4, 2001, 04:42 PM
Looks to me that the synthetic stock isn't going to suffer too much from gun oil.

My wife has the closets so full of clothes that I might not be able to find it.

We had a home invasion robbery four houses away at six weeks ago at 1:30 A.M. The perp flicks the bedroom light on and tells the couple to get under the covers. He gets away with a Rolex and a couple of diamond rings plus a couple hundred $. Luckily they weren't hurt. The shotgun would have to be stashed closer than the closet to make a difference in this case.

PreserveFreedom
November 4, 2001, 05:41 PM
I've never seen a shotgun stored stock up. Look at any gun cabinet or squad car. You'll see that long guns sit with the barrel pointed up. If it gets jarred, your stock can take some abuse from a floor. Your barrel could wind up with a damaged crown. If you are using so much lube that it is dripping down the gun, something is wrong. I know that if mine are not sitting hoizontal, they are always pointed at the sky.

southpark
November 6, 2001, 10:54 PM
Well, I've got two agressive guard dogs, one a little over 70 pounds and the other 150 pounds. They guarantee extra time to unlock a locked gun.
Unfortunately, letting a 150 pound monster dog run around your house also guarantees many more thousands of dollars worth of damage then a typical burgler would inflict. But, given possible risk to family members lives, the trade-off is worth it. Still, a 150 pound guard dog is not for everyone as it is a walking liability. If you have access to a gun and a phone, a yipper rat dog would probably be easier on your lifestyle and provide enough warning.

LIProgun
November 7, 2001, 10:22 AM
Check out the GunClamp, now distributed by Hoppe's. I had a couple of these shipped direct from the manufacturer in Australia a couple of years ago, before Hoppe's picked up on them. They're a little awkward at first, but once you get the hang of the they're pretty fast. And should the clamp manage to be forced from the mounting surface, the lock continues to function as a trigger lock.

Go here: http://www.hoppes.com/newpr.html and scroll down to the GunClamp.

cbjessee@NH
December 4, 2001, 05:52 AM
New 870 Police from Hans Vang showed up yesterday - can't play with it until Santa drops it under the tree, but better a wait than no shotgun.

I had thought of a Life-Jacket or Mossberg lock for ready access, but now I see that the TacStar side saddle prevents use of such locks. Short of a quick-access wall safe (GunLocker, etc.), does anyone know of any options? I can't tell if the Hoppes GunClamp would work or not - it's not clear how it works from their web page.

BRET

CMichael
December 4, 2001, 09:12 AM
My concern is that the perp would use the shotgun against me.

I have the magazine loaded, the chamber empty, the trigger lock on, and I hid the key.

Michael:cool:

mjn
December 4, 2001, 09:52 AM
Try this:

Get a long hasp lock and a big eye bolt. Install the eyebolt near a corner, being sure to get it into a stud. Open the action of the shotgun and pass the hasp of the lock through the ejection port and the loading port, then lock it to the eyebolt. The action then can't be closed, and the eyebolt can't be unscrewed because the gun will hit the other wall and prevent it from turning.

May not work on all models of shotgun, but if it does it works well.

Coronach
December 4, 2001, 10:26 AM
My concern is that the perp would use the shotgun against me.

I have the magazine loaded, the chamber empty, the trigger lock on, and I hid the key.

I find this to be a valid concern. If a gun is not secured or on your person, it is a potential threat, plain and simple. Many a burglary has been interrupted by the homeowner returning earlier than expected. I would not wish to encounter a perp looking down the barrel of my home defense shotgun as I sift through the mail in the living room.

Now, HD arms do need to be handy for the Good Guys. Make sure you keep that key at hand, and that you know how to get that SG into play quickly. Otherwise, its just a wall-hanger. ;)

Mike

cbjessee@NH
December 4, 2001, 11:30 AM
mjn,

Brilliant! Those rubber coated bolts they sell for bicycles would fit the bill.

BRET

Shawn Dodson
December 4, 2001, 01:03 PM
http://www.vlineind.com/html/shotgun_case.html

There used to be a company called StayReady, which built quick access lockers for long guns. However their web site seems to be down: http://www.stayready.com

j-heart
December 4, 2001, 10:36 PM
I found this on a recent search. It is called a riflelocker (http://store.shooters.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&DID=239&Product_ID=22389&CATID=112&group=Gun%20Safes%20%26%20Accessories) . I have never seen one but it looks like a safe option.

9mmMike
December 4, 2001, 11:48 PM
Since you posted and I answered on GT, I thought I should answer here as well.

Sorry it took so long to find this but here ya go.

http://truckvault.com/bedvaults.asp

I think that this looks like the cat's meow.
I do not have one, yet.
Mike

cbjessee@NH
December 5, 2001, 06:31 AM
Found the Australian manufacturer of GunClamp's page at http://www.gunclamp.com/index.html. Hoppes hasn't replied to my inquirey about how wide the unit is (so as to take a Rem870 with side saddle) or where I can buy one, so I asked the manufacturer and will post their reply.
BRET