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bullfrog99
July 17, 2001, 08:44 PM
if you were to own only one shotgun(12 ga) , which style would you get, a semi auto, pump, sxs, over under or whatever. I am stuck between a sxs and a pump mossberg, which style would you get?

Mikey
July 17, 2001, 09:46 PM
Recoil operated semi-auto (no gas ports to clog), high capacity, great tactical features (load select etc), accessories out the kazoo, every barrel and choke option you could want. Plus it makes a nice light weight field gun.

Mikey

fed168
July 17, 2001, 10:16 PM
I have gone through several shotguns over the years, and keep coming back to one: the 870. I am partial to pumps, although I like some of the semis.
Giving an example, mine fits all the roles it may need: slug gun, bird gun, social shotgun. The only thing I need to do is switch parts and put others back on and there you go.
My experiences with Mossy's are not the best. Too many parts in the break down of the weapon IMO, but the thing going for it to me is the safety. I like to see where it is at.
Don't opt out the 870, or any Remington for that matter.

Coronach
July 17, 2001, 10:42 PM
Why?

1. Robust/reliable. The police use them, and while this usually means 'made by lowest bidder,' in this case it means 'able to take 20 years of crippling abuse and still go BOOM on demand.'

2. Economical. The police use them. This means that if its not made by the lowest bidder, its damn well close.

3. Smoooooooooooth Action. Yes, semis are faster, but not by a whole heck of a lot.

4. Accessories out the arse.

5. Simple manual of arms.

I would go with a pump over a semi. I don't care how reliable the semi is, it is FAR more likely to hiccup than a decent pump, especially if you use non-standard ammo, are not keeping it clean, or- in the case of recoil operated guns- doing things that affect recoil.

I would go with a pump over a sxs. sxs's are nice, but by definition you get 2 tries before you need to reload.

I would go with the 870 over the Mossberg, but this is personal preference. I think the 870 is exceeded by the Mossy in no area except maybe economy, and the 870 is (IMHO) more durable. JMO. The mossy isn't bad, though...if I had to use one in lieu of an 870 I would not feel poorly armed.

Mike

k77/22rp
July 18, 2001, 12:04 AM
UH OH! please dont say bad things about mossberg, I just bought a mossbeg 500 and have not had the chance to shoot it:D o well it sure was cheap!!!

PreserveFreedom
July 18, 2001, 12:09 AM
Call me old fashioned, but I don't think there's much that can't be accomplished with a pump action shotgun. It is what I am comfortable with anyway. A lot has to do with preference.

Ewok_Guy
July 18, 2001, 12:32 AM
Mossberg 835 Ulti-Mag

PJR
July 18, 2001, 08:10 AM
Yikes, a terrible propostion. But my choice would depend on the gun's intended purposes. If clay shooting were a priority I would opt for a semi automatic. Although pump guns are fun, for the average shooter (that would be me) a semi is better for clays. My first choice as a clays-only semi would be a Beretta 391 but it's limited magazine and no provision for a magazine extension does not recommend it for HD. Therefore, for one shotgun only it would be an 11-87 with a 28" choke-tubed barrel for targets and a rifle-sighted smooth barrel for HD and a mag extension.

If I didn't shoot clays or didn't care about my score I would get an 870 with two barrels and a mag extension.

Dave McC
July 18, 2001, 08:27 AM
Whatever the mission calls for. As a generic, all purpose shotgun, the 870 shines. For Mossy and Winchester lovers, those are good second place winners also.

If an 870 has ever worn out, I haven't seen it. With accessories proliferating like weeds, one can set up an 870 for everything from clay games to WIHTF, and be WELL prepared for all of it.

While other shotgun styles have their good points, a case can be made that any shotgun battery w/o an 870 is sadly hampered and incomplete...

DAVID NANCARROW
July 18, 2001, 09:32 AM
Remington 870 12 gauge. Accept no substitutes unless absolutely necessary!

Marko Kloos
July 18, 2001, 11:06 AM
For an "only" shotgun, a good pump is hard to beat. Make mine a Mossberg 500 or Remington 870. I'd even be content with a Benelli Nova. I don't like the Winchester 1300 series too much, but that's just personal preference.

BigG
July 18, 2001, 11:14 AM
Methinks I would go with a SxS or an O/U. They handle so much better than repeaters. YMMV:cool:

Bam Bam
July 18, 2001, 05:32 PM
I would choose a Win 1300. Maybe a Nova or Fabarm pump if I had a chance to shoot one of them. It would be nice to shoot a Win Model 21 for comparison too. Basically I would go with a pump for reliability, ease of cleaning, etc. I have an O/U which I "luv" but don't fancy using it on "home defense" patrol. If you have a pump you can still bluff the BG one more time after the last shot.

STEVE M
July 18, 2001, 08:06 PM
a Perazzi O/U. Then I could sell it and buy enough other shotguns to over all my needs:D

Ala Dan
July 18, 2001, 10:10 PM
Pump

In particular a Remington 870 Marine Magnum!!!

Regards,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

NINE
July 19, 2001, 02:26 AM
I have had a REM 870 Marine Magnum for 4 years now... it has no noticable signs of wear. I shoot light #6 shot, up to heavy 3 inch slugs with not a single problem. I've used it to shoot ducks and prairie chicken, to wild dogs. If I had to choose ONE gun... it would be this one.

Cat
July 19, 2001, 06:12 AM
You mean some of you have more than one? :)

I'll stick with my Remington 1100.

Herr Walther
July 19, 2001, 07:22 AM
Ithaca M37 12ga.

huntsman
July 19, 2001, 08:28 AM
A SxS if you can only have one ,might as well go in style :cool:

AdrenalineJunky
July 19, 2001, 04:11 PM
Browning B-25 custom

CWL
July 19, 2001, 04:31 PM
I love my Remington 870 Marine Magnum as well!

Having said that, my Beretta 1201fp is more fun to shoot though.

OkieCruffler
July 21, 2001, 09:27 PM
If I could only have one it would have to be a Stevens model 311. Right now I have 8 of them and wouldn't part with any of them.

BUt then again I have a really old friend of mine (he actually changed my nappies a few times) who only owns one gun, an 870, with a 28'' barrel with choke tubes and a 20 rifled slug barrel. He says why get a whole buncha guns when he can do anything he wants, in OKlahoma anyway, with that one shotgun.

Spectre
July 26, 2001, 12:27 AM
I have an 870 Express that I am selling to a friend in a few months.

Yes, it's a wonderful piece (with the smoothest action I think I've felt), but the safety is wrong...compared to my 3 Mossbergs! :D

orangutan
July 26, 2001, 12:53 AM
one gun, why not many. one for trap.one for skeet, one for sporting. i like over and unders and am in the midst of buying a beretta DT 10 X.

well for all round use, home defence, field, clay. it has to be a pump remmie 870 militarised or mossie 590. any home intruder crazy enough to continue when facing the business end of a 870 or 590 pump deserves to be shot to maintain the intelligence of the general human gene pool.:p

AMHsix
July 26, 2001, 12:24 PM
I like "combat guns"(home defense) so I'm going to say a Mossberg 590A1 w/ speedfeed stock.

Sporting shotgun: I don't know. :)

Daryl Waldron
July 28, 2001, 01:48 PM
I just got an 870 Magnum, used but nice with a parkerized finish and a Remington Folding stock. (I am not sure about keeping the FS?) I shot it yesterday with a few diff loads. I think, maybe, I got the right one for me... .:)

PeterParker
July 28, 2001, 04:01 PM
I can't say enough about my Mossy 590A1...

K80Geoff
July 29, 2001, 08:44 AM
I would go with my O/U.

I can configure it to do anything, except maybe short barreled riot gun. But then again I shoot clays and have yet to get into a situation where a riot gun was necessary.

With a good O/U you can change barel lengths and even gauges easily (with enough money of course) Stock styles can also be changed. I suppose I could buy an old set of barrels and have them cut down to riot length, but what a waste.

You really only need two guns, a high quality O/U and an 870. Can do anything with this pair of guns.


Geoff Ross

Shin-Tao
July 29, 2001, 06:00 PM
Winchester 1300 Defender with folding stock. Any day.

Jeff #111
August 1, 2001, 11:08 AM
The Remington 870 with a sixteen inch barrel. It's what I know and trust.

HarryB
August 1, 2001, 12:32 PM
The Remington 870 with a sixteen inch barrel. It's what I know and trust.

Ya might wanna remeasure that barrel Jeff. The BATF doesn't trust ya--and now THEY now.:D

Dave McC
August 1, 2001, 01:36 PM
18" bbl is standard, Jeff, and probably that's what's in your cruiser. Shorter than that makes the Feds quite unhappy, and most unpleasant....

Jeff #111
August 1, 2001, 08:46 PM
Thank you. I stand corrected.

MO JENKINS
August 4, 2001, 09:45 PM
FUGEDABUODIT! The 870 rules as far as versatility goes! Less than three minutes and it goes from 3 shot 28" to 6+1 and 18 1/2". Of coarse, nuthin wrong with a Win or Mossy pump either!
MO JENKINS