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ReserveCop
February 4, 2001, 11:31 AM
In your opinion, which shotgun be the best "on duty" patrol (i.e. NOT home defense) weapon, and why. Thanks.

Scott Conklin
February 4, 2001, 07:24 PM
From years of using my 590 I would recommend it for anything. It has eaten everything imaginable from light loads to dirty crap to over stuffed handloads which, had I known what had been done to them at the time I'd have never fired, and I have yet to have a breakage or failure of any kind.

My 870 seems just as good but I haven't put nearly as much thru it and I just like the feel of the Mossy better. Either should be a rock solid choice.

DML
February 4, 2001, 08:41 PM
Either the 870 or the 590 is a good choice. My suggestion is to handle both of them and see which one feels better to you.

The 590-A1 with ghost ring sights is a flat out bargain in my opinion.(18.5" barrel) We have sold them to various LE agencies all over the country and have had no major complaints. The 870, however, is still the main shotgun of choice by most LEOs.

Take your pick.

Dave McC
February 5, 2001, 06:41 AM
Most depts and agencies go with the 870 for simple reasons. The 870 will keep on working despite abuse, neglect, and lackadaisical maintenance by unmotivated and apathetic personnel. Few if any 870s have ever been "Shot out".

Like Erick says, there's plenty of bolt on stuff out there if desired or needed, but the first accessory to be bought after a shotgun purchase is a case of ammo. After burning up several hundred hulls, one will have a better idea of what to get.

JNewell
February 5, 2001, 08:34 PM
Dave, "abuse"? What would *you* know about abuse? And, just to head you off at the pass, please do not try to tell us that dropping 870s out of a 30 foot tower onto concrete is "abusing" an 870.

Sheeeeeesh.

John
;-)

George Hill
February 5, 2001, 09:47 PM
Normally its a choice between the Mossbergs and the Remingtons...
Here is a little wrench:
I was once on patrol with a new partner that had a Winchester Defender that was sweet and slick. It was light - felt like 1/2 the weight of the 590 I was lugging.
A Butler Creek folding stock made it the PERFECT car gun.
Even though it was much shorter - it still fit in the rack and was a lot easier to get out of the car in a hurry.
Its action was smooth and crisp - recoil, dispite its seemingly feather weight, was not bothersome at all. It grouped well - the pattern was no larger than my Moss's dispite the Moss's longer tube.

If I were getting a new scattergun for an empty rack - That would be it.

Dave McC
February 6, 2001, 07:48 AM
John, why the animosity? I'll answer the question tho....

Besides dropping an 870 30 feet onto concrete, COs has other ways to test the reliability of shotguns,including the 870.

I found one that had the mag follower replaced with a soda bottle cap. Another had a rolled up porno mag hidden in the bbl.

Yet another, on loan from the MD House of Correction, was so neglected it took serious work just to pump it. Several hours of work and some CLP later, it went back to MHC with a report attached that smoked and gave off sparks....

As for personal, non-institutional abuse, one of these here spent lots of hours in salt marshes and goose blinds. To this date, no rust, no parts needed after thousands of rounds shot.

Al Thompson
February 6, 2001, 08:17 AM
RC - one other thing to consider - if you get what the department your affiliated with issues, you may be able to get their armorer to provide spare parts. Or fix it if it breaks.

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