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WildBill45
January 14, 2013, 07:04 PM
I put my AK ... in a prior posting ... on layaway last week, and was going to pick it in a month or two. But, and there always is a but in life, gun control talk about Tuesday or Wednesday made me nervous so I brought her home today.

They had some cheap Russian ammo on hand ... TUL-AMMO, so I grabbed 100 rounds. Is this decent ammo, as I doubt it. What ammo is decent, non-corrosive, and cheap to shoot.

What do you shoot, and where do you get it???

I shot a few more photos at home.

Willie Sutton
January 14, 2013, 07:12 PM
Right now? Shoot whatever you can find.

As a rule? Well... they were designed to shoot Russian steel cased, so feed it that and it'll shoot forever.


Willie


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WildBill45
January 14, 2013, 07:21 PM
What I Have now is Russian Steel cased... Haven't shot it, but it is coming!:eek:

spacecoast
January 14, 2013, 07:34 PM
Congrats on putting your hands on a rifle. Tula shoots well in my AK, my best 5-shot group at 100 yards is 1.6".

Hairbag
January 14, 2013, 08:18 PM
I picked up some tula too about 2 weeks ago but I have tried it out yet. I like silver bear or golden bear for range work. It's pretty clean and accurate. I think it might be awhile before you find some. I usually wait until Sportsman guide has free shipping specials and load up. The silver bear and golden bear are non corrosive and I have been shooting it for awhile now with no problems.

WildBill45
January 14, 2013, 09:10 PM
I usually wait until Sportsman guide has free shipping specials and load up. The silver bear and golden bear are non corrosive and I have been shooting it for awhile now with no problems.
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I know Gary Olen of Sportsman Guide. I went hunting for Crocs, with a bow, with him in the LA swamps years ago, and Gary also got a nice wild hog on that hunt! :D

Thanks for the Ammo tips ... I am very concerned about ammo with all the anti-gun campaigns going on at the moment. I will look about. I see the brand Wolf get mentioned around, but I have never used any. I am used to shooting custom hunting stuff, and not too much of this surplus stuff. I will have to learn as I go in this discipline...

Cy4ka
January 14, 2013, 09:14 PM
TulaAmmo is fine for your AK.

I even shoot tula .223 from my AR15.

WildBill45
January 14, 2013, 09:45 PM
TulaAmmo is fine for your AK.

Great! They had new boxes of it at my gun shop, but were rationing it out and limiting purchases to 100 rounds to spread the wealth I guess... I will look for more closer to home, maybe Dunham Sports has some.

DubC-Hicks
January 14, 2013, 11:16 PM
Buy up that Tula!:D an AK is meant to use that ammo. My AK eats everything I feed it, no problems whatsoever. Tula, Wolf, Bear, Herters, everything. In fact, my WASR doesn't even know what brass tastes like.

flgunguy
January 15, 2013, 12:38 AM
Tula is just fine for your AK. I have an arsenal sgl21 and I regularly shoot Tula. Its a wee bit harder to get a hold of now. If you can pick it. Do it.

I don't shoot Tula out of my AR but I use their 9mm and 45.

Ignition Override
January 15, 2013, 02:40 AM
WildBill45:
Unless you do well with the classic iron sights and are not familiar with these, you might read about the Tech Sights for the AK, SKS, Ruger 10-22, Marlin 60 etc. My Only Regret was not buying it much sooner.

The fully-adjustable version for my SKS turned it into a different rifle:)
The old leaf sight needed a bit of muscle to remove, but can be re-installed.
As long as people like apertures, they can just imagine what the much improved sight distance will do.

Which flavor of AK did you buy?

WildBill45
January 15, 2013, 09:32 AM
Unless you do well with the classic iron sights

I do pretty good with classic iron sights, and I mean classic, I am old school. In a post in the blackpowder forum I shoot my flintlock, which is an exact copy of a 1770 Christian Springs rifle, made with molds from an original rifle, and the sights are tiny, original sights ... shooting small targets at 100 yards offhand, flinter I remind you, and I still do OK, considering my age. But, and there always is a but in life, I would do better with a peep! My first rifle at age 14, an O3A3, is a peep sight rifle as you probably know, and I still hunt with it.

I like the AK, SAIGA--photos in above opening post--and may keep it as is, considering the usage it was designed for. I do not like the sights as they are, and I may open up the rear to look like an express sight, which I have shot a lot on my big bore rifles over the years. The distance between the eye and first sight is more conducive to express sights I think, opening up the light around the front post, which I may put an express bead on. This rifle is for close to medium people size targets at speed, not slow and deliberate prairie dog shooting at 400 yards. Like golf clubs each rifle has a use. This is how I see it at the moment.

The gun store would only sell 100 rounds to a customer, and the store is a long drive to go back for more considering the cost of the gas. I will look closer or on the Internet to get more if it shoots well in my AK...

I have included a photo of the sights that I shot yesterday...

MoBart
January 15, 2013, 09:40 AM
Ive shot a lot of the tula 5.45x39 and it always shot well and never had relaiability issues.

WildBill45
January 15, 2013, 09:43 AM
Ive shot a lot of the tula 5.45x39 and it always shot well and never had relaiability issues.

That is wonderful news, thanks!!!

FOR ME RELIABILITY IS NUMBER ONE, NOT ACCURACY, FOR MY DANGEROUS GAME RIFLES, AND THIS IS WHAT AN AK IS, as were my duty guns!!!

The most accurate rifle in the world that goes click when a lion is charging, or when a drug crazed, edged-weapon-carrying human is charging ... is WORTHLESS!!! :eek:

WildBill45
January 15, 2013, 11:03 AM
Now I feel better, my new AK is going for over $900.00 minimum reserve at gunsamerica ... so I did get a good deal!!!! Exact same gun...

http://www.gunsamerica.com/994532854/AK_47_by_Saiga_Russian_in_7_62x39_New_in_Box.htm

NO ammo locally, I just called around! :confused:

navajo
January 15, 2013, 12:06 PM
3,000 rounds through my VZ 58 without a problem.

Venom1956
January 15, 2013, 12:40 PM
Do you have a sporter saiga or has it been converted back to a normal AK profile? I'm curious

I own a Saiga (or whats left of it) as well :D

SC4006
January 15, 2013, 03:03 PM
I like your new AK! As far as ammo, my brother has had a few hangfires in his WASR with "hotshot" brand ammo, not sure if it was just a bad batch but be aware of that.

Erno86
January 15, 2013, 03:57 PM
You can put a Mojo rear ghost peep sight sight on the rear leaf mount on your AK --- but your zero can move easily --- with the Mojo's revolving sight adjustment turrent. I do like the A-2 flashhider over the AK/74 muzzle break; for the AK47. Is it the one with the bolt hold-open lever, on the right hand side of the trigger guard? I just bought a AK-74 carbine like that...but it doesn't have the ventilation holes in the forearm; like the AK-47 does.

WildBill45
January 15, 2013, 08:08 PM
Do you have a sporter saiga or has it been converted back to a normal AK profile? I'm curious

It is a normal AK, there are a few images of it here. It is the new version with the trigger group moved forward to improve balance, etc...

Someone noted they have had 3000 rounds of Tula ammo go off without failure ... WELL DONE! I hope we can keep getting it with the FEDS all over us like stinkbugs in July!!!

Venom1956
January 15, 2013, 11:33 PM
Pics!? I'll put mine up then too!

CharlieDeltaJuliet
January 16, 2013, 12:35 AM
First of all, congratulations on your rifle. I swear those things would shoot rocks if they would chamber..lol. Seriously though I have a friend that has put many thousands of rounds of Tula through his AK and no problems. He swears by it and refuses to shoot anything else...

Aaron1100us
January 16, 2013, 06:28 AM
I shoot Tula through my SLR101S. Feeds and shoots fine.

Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk 2

WildBill45
January 16, 2013, 09:39 AM
Pics!? I'll put mine up then too!

LETS SEE EM'

Why shoot photos if no one sees them??? ;)

WildBill45
January 16, 2013, 09:40 AM
has put many thousands of rounds of Tula through his AK and no problems

I hope we can still get it after today's release of New Gun Control laws that may be introduced!!! They are after the ammo more than the guns I believe...

Venom1956
January 16, 2013, 05:00 PM
http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z330/Shaine_Spielman/IMAG0088_zps09c75f34.jpg

Here she is. Russia's finest. Izhmash made. :D:D:D

sorry bout the horrible pic quality

WildBill45
January 16, 2013, 09:10 PM
sorry bout the horrible pic quality

I can see it ... good enough for that point. Nice looking rifle!

My friend Kenny asked me once when I was going to shoot his photo, "Can you make me look good?" I said, NO, I am a photographer, NOT a magician!!!

the blur
January 16, 2013, 09:43 PM
Can't own that in NY.

Venom1956
January 16, 2013, 11:19 PM
I checked out your video i've never seen a Saiga in that configuration.

Rifleman1952
January 17, 2013, 05:48 AM
The Russian Silver Bear ammo is quite good for the money...that is, before the panic. Can't find them now. For target practice, any of the Russian steel cased, non corrosive will work just fine. For self-defense, go with Corbon, Double Tap or Hornady, relatively expensive but you don't need much.

WildBill45
January 17, 2013, 10:38 AM
I checked out your video i've never seen a Saiga in that configuration.

I don't know what to say ... I Have never seen one that isn't as such ... I am new at the AK thing! It is new, the latest version I believe.

Venom1956
January 17, 2013, 03:11 PM
Well it's not a pure sporter nor is it modeled after an military ak. It's a blend between the to I suppose.

WildBill45
January 17, 2013, 05:14 PM
Well it's not a pure sporter nor is it modeled after an military ak. It's a blend between the to I suppose.


IT is made by IZHMASH!

see attached photo!

Venom1956
January 17, 2013, 07:41 PM
I didn't mean that in a negative way!
I wasn't saying it wasn't a izhmash! it just looks like a blend of their sporter models and a AK style one?


I think its really cool actually. I'm also totally digging that box. please please PLEASE tell me that is a WOOD crate!

Can u PM details where you got it? I have a friend who would love that rifle!

WildBill45
January 18, 2013, 12:44 PM
I'm also totally digging that box. please please PLEASE tell me that is a WOOD crate!

NO, it is cardboard!