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rickyjames
November 20, 2012, 03:45 AM
i was wondering if anyone owns any 22 rimfire versions of military type rifles/carbines? i never knew there were so many rimfire versions available. i have found out that there are dedicated rimfire versions of ar's, ak's, mp5's, m1 carbines and i am sure there must be others. with the price of ammo it would seem the .22 caliber versions of these weapons would be a practical and inexpensive way to pratice and also a whole lot of fun. so does anyone here own any of these 22 caliber versions? how about a little review, maybe a picture and aprox cost, and brand recomendations? thanks.

BPowderkeg
November 20, 2012, 07:47 AM
i favor the S&W M&P 15-22 as a complete rifle, if one has an AR-15 type rifle/carbine, i recommend the Tac-Sol upper, i have both, they are reliable, fun to shoot and top of the line quality.

oldsoonershooter
November 20, 2012, 07:47 AM
I currently own 3. The S&W M&P 15-22, the Umarex Colt M4 and the ISSC SCAR. Also, I have an ATI STG 44 on order. The attraction is obvious. All the fun of shooting without most of the expense. You can have a full afternoon of shooting with your family for less than $50.

rickyjames
November 20, 2012, 08:53 AM
it seems the ar/m4 type guns are the most popular mirroring the popularity of the centerfire guns. does anyone have any reports on some of the other types as well?

ak2323
November 20, 2012, 11:39 AM
I have a S&W M&P 15-22 and its a lot of fun.

Bulk walmart ammo is touch and go, CCI Stingers cycle every time but of course cost more.

defcon
November 20, 2012, 12:14 PM
as you can tell im not waiting for any aftermarket manufacturers to make a rimfire versions for us .22LR folks so i took it upon myself to DIY using gutted airsoft stocks as "dress up kits". closest thing to a 1:1 scale version of the real centerfire.

i know i cant get or afford to buy the real centerfire versions so i made these .22 conversions using gutted airsoft stocks. the WWII versions im making are parts kits will be rewelded and bolted back up

fun, cheap plinkers. nothing more.

for some reason i still dont own the .22 versions of the HK MP5, SIG552, STG44. it will always be there for me to buy in the future.

i own a AR15 and i just plan to get a .22 CMMG conversion kit.

Ruger 10/22 Barrett M82A1 and Marlin XT-22 M200 Cheytac Intervention
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7235/7147279497_1708b263eb_o.jpg

Ruger 10/22 H&K SL8
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7079/7162808538_a3464d9590_o.jpg

Marlin XT-22 L96 AICS
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5236/7005332290_531a19c8ce_o.jpg

Savage MKII F Sig Sauer Tactical 2 Blaser
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7275/7738044526_4ed61015b4_c.jpg

Ruger 10/22 Archangel M1A
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8318/8065170680_1d857890ce_o.jpg

Ruger 10/22 Archange Sparta
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5323/7092562903_86499231b5_b.jpg

defcon
November 20, 2012, 12:16 PM
Marlin 795 L85
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Ruger 10/22 AUG
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7063/7012974417_68afab6aa4_c.jpg

Ruger 10/22 PS90
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7245/7271652784_f23dc8a5dc_b.jpg

Ruger 10/22 FS2000
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7206/6787466440_d515bfbfc0_b.jpg

Ruger 10/22 Beretta RX4 Storm
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7179/6884933955_c1e000f02d_z.jpg

Ruger 10/22 M14 EBR
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7135/7859178856_801ac295c6_c.jpg

defcon
November 20, 2012, 12:17 PM
Ruger 10/22 Bren and FND BAR
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http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7073/7284216894_c58f0f6aab_b.jpg

Marlin 795 Barrett M99
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7075/7169167434_de71968049_c.jpg

Marlin 795 SCAR
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8021/7169167742_362dba0c1b_c.jpg

Ruger 10/22 AK47
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8446/7990847980_83f97de77f_o.jpg

Ruger 10/22 M249 SAW
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7101/7169167998_283ae0aed6_c.jpg

defcon
November 20, 2012, 12:18 PM
Ruger 10/22 Vietnam M60
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7245/7207760094_db7148e82e_c.jpg

Ruger 10/22 Beretta ARX-160
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8147/7213974240_feec1906a5_b.jpg

Ruger 10/22 G36
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6098/6316550329_45823a00eb_z.jpg

Marlin 795 ACR
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8299/7878274352_ddf77e8b99_c.jpg

Marlin 60 UMP
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8463/8146811493_75dca30de8_c.jpg

Marlin 60 Dragunov SVD
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7249/8165948812_1a8ed20d31_c.jpg

defcon
November 20, 2012, 12:20 PM
Marlin 60 Tavor TAR21
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8330/8128495210_d358f5353d_c.jpg

Marlin 60 M60E4
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8058/8177918890_d8eddb51b3_c.jpg

defcon
November 20, 2012, 12:21 PM
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defcon
November 20, 2012, 12:22 PM
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defcon
November 20, 2012, 12:23 PM
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defcon
November 20, 2012, 12:25 PM
ive got a XM8, KRISS, M249 SAW, Magpul FMG, M240B, MG42, 1919A6, 1919A4, M2HB, Madsen LMG, PKM LMG coming up in a few months :D

Marquezj16
November 20, 2012, 08:10 PM
Defcon, Where do you store all your guns?

If you ever decide to market them, I'm in for at least a couple of models.

defcon
November 20, 2012, 08:22 PM
j/k in a gun cabinet.

i will be selling a M14 EBR stock for a Marlin 60 for $500 in a few weeks.

kobes31
November 21, 2012, 08:49 PM
Can anyone give some firsthand experience (review) comparing some of these commercially available .22's? I'm specifically interested in the HK (Umarex) MP5, ISSC MK22 (Scar), or Sig 522.

Defcon,
Could you elaborate more on how you built those awesome .22's? I would be interested in doing something like that myself dependent upon labor involved and cost.

Dr Big Bird PhD
November 22, 2012, 01:22 AM
Those puppies are beautiful

mete
November 22, 2012, 02:29 AM
I go back a little further with a miniature Mauser M 98, made in the 1930s. Nicely made , very accurate, single shot.

Mine is the plain version but there was a target version ,rare and very expensive.:)

Eghad
November 22, 2012, 10:19 AM
I own a Sig 522 and it is an excellent shooter. I also own a CMMG AR15 M4 style dedicated .22LR which functions flawlessly and is a good shooter.

Art Eatman
November 22, 2012, 10:37 AM
mete, my father brought back one of those 98/22s. We always figured they were Hitler Jugend training rifles.

MarkCO
November 22, 2012, 03:57 PM
If you are looking for the feel and weight of your .223/5.56 AR, the top choice for me is the Nordic. http://shop.nordiccomp.com/NC22_c6.htm

These upper use Black Dog magazines and go right onto your AR-15 lower. They are utterly reliable which is a huge benefit in the training realm. Accuracy is good, but they are not tack-drivers. I know that TacSol recently redid their uppers of the same type and the reports are that they have improved.

A large number of the top tier 3Gun competitors use these for training.

Ignition Override
November 22, 2012, 07:16 PM
A friend bought a new copy of the (WW2) Sturmgewehr in .22 LR.
I have no idea how well it operates.

It's more than a coincidence that the friend who bought barely it escaped East Germany (got shot at) a few years before the wall came down.

nfafan
November 23, 2012, 02:48 AM
The SIG of New Hampshire-made SIG522 is probably the best purpose-built .22 "EBR" on planet earth. Maybe the galaxy.

You could take it to war it is THAT good.

Once you handle, shoot one - nothing compares. The gold standard.

The ONLY downside is that they were sold without correct iron-sights; the ones that some are shipped with these days are clearly an afterthought and not "designed in", so get used to using an optic of some kind.

I can only wish that ALL .22 "EBRs" were as good.

Powderman
November 23, 2012, 03:25 AM
Defcon--all I can say is.....WOW!!!!!

That is one SWEET collection! All of those are .22's?

VERY well made!

We are NOT worthy.....:)

defcon
November 23, 2012, 06:29 PM
Defcon,
Could you elaborate more on how you built those awesome .22's? I would be interested in doing something like that myself dependent upon labor involved and cost.

theyre just gutted airsoft stocks dremeled out to make the .22 action/barrel drop right in. i just looked at how people inletted their action/barrel on wooden stocks and figured i can do the same with cutting up plastic and metal.

these stocks are cheap if you buy them used or internally broken for $60-$200 a piece.

defcon
November 23, 2012, 06:30 PM
Defcon--all I can say is.....WOW!!!!!

That is one SWEET collection! All of those are .22's?

VERY well made!

We are NOT worthy....

thanks man

yea theyre all .22's except for the 2 rifles in the back. its an .223 AR15 and a Saiga 12 shotgun.

i bought the AR and Saiga 12 first before the .22LR bug bit me.

Powderman
November 23, 2012, 08:17 PM
Very nice.

So, you just mount the actions inside the stocks? That's an idea.

Do you have a favorite action to work with?

Dr Big Bird PhD
November 23, 2012, 10:11 PM
Could you potentially change the actions of any of these weapons, such as the ACR or SCAR, to their actual calibers? Or would that cost more money than just buying the real thing

defcon
November 23, 2012, 10:33 PM
Very nice.

So, you just mount the actions inside the stocks? That's an idea.

Do you have a favorite action to work with?

yes its just the action sitting inside a stock. same thing people do that buy the wood, carve the wood and inlet/bed it for the action to drop in.

i just buy the closest thing to a 1:1 scale replica of a real firearm and airsoft stocks are the best route

i dont like the 10/22 because theyre too expensive especially since i want each stock to have its own .22 action inside

now im doing Marlin 60's because theyre cheaper ($70) a piece and i dont have to deal with magazines.

defcon
November 23, 2012, 10:34 PM
Could you potentially change the actions of any of these weapons, such as the ACR or SCAR, to their actual calibers? Or would that cost more money than just buying the real thing

i wouldnt know how to do that. im not a gunsmith.
i dont own an ACR or SCAR.

stu925
November 26, 2012, 09:42 PM
I don't own it but I recently had the opportunity to shoot the ATI GSG522 carbine. Had a few issues that need to be rectified: Bolt would sometimes fail to go all the way forward, trigger return spring would not bring the trigger far enough forward to reset the trigger (we actually had to push it forward), and there were several failures to feed with a portion of the bullet being sheared off by the feed ramp. There were also 2 rounds that were very loud when fired, after the second one I observed smoke pouring out of the receiver and told the owner he'd better stop shooting. When he removed the magazine and opened the bolt I watched as a .22 LR case head fell out of the receiver. A quick inspection revealed that the rest of the case was not in the gun, it was found on the ground. I suspect this was an out of battery discharge and not an ammo issue but who knows. Gun was going to a gunsmith to be looked at and may end up going back to the manufacturer. I hope the STG-44 is a better gun because I want one of those.

Stu