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smokiniron
November 5, 2012, 02:27 PM
Are there any threads addressing bore guides?

Needed on not? I'm using a brass cleaning rod at the moment.

Are there any good, durable guide kits that work with AR 15 and 30 cal?
(I've seen the various kits, but am looking for recommendations)

Thanks!

Sweet Shooter
November 5, 2012, 03:26 PM
I currently use this: (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/410766/gunslick-pro-universal-bore-guide) And it works very well.

But I am going to get one of these: (http://www.gunslick.com/products/accessories/accessories/ar-15-boreguide.aspx)

I am trying to ease up on cleaning altogether. But I'm so OC I have a hard time leaving a rifle a couple of days if it's been shot.

I'd like to get to the point where I can pull a bore snake through it and running a lightly oiled patch... and leave it until a couple of hundred rounds. But it's not working and I have a hard time sleeping.

The upside is my rifles shoot MOA WOF...

-SS-

smokiniron
November 5, 2012, 07:09 PM
Thanks, Sweetshooter...

I'm also looking at one of these:

http://www.proshotproducts.com/AR-Style-and-other-popular-Delrin-Bore-Guides_c_170.html

It's Delrin, a very durable plastic, and it has a small chamber 'O' ring that should keep the gook outta' 'da action. It was $19 at one of the LGSs.

I'm going to check the Gunslick as recommended - before I use the ProShot.

And if I need to return it.. Oh well. I'll just HAVE to re-visit my LGS!

No down side there!

djcantr
November 5, 2012, 07:42 PM
I've never used a bore guide. Guess I never learned how to properly clean a bore with a brush. I keep the rest of my guns very clean but don't clean the bores too often. When I do, I use a PatchWorm.

Sweet Shooter
November 5, 2012, 10:10 PM
smokiniron, I like the look of that guide and have considered them. I do like a little solvent in the throat/neck area just because carbon gets down past the rim of the case. I don't use a brush of any kind, I let the chemicals do the work so it's important for me to get the chemicals to work in the chamber throat area. It's a balancing act for sure and I let the barrel sit muzzle down so that I don't get chemicals leaking into the action.

I am just realizing that the chrome chamber cleans very easily with just chemicals.

-SS-

kraigwy
November 5, 2012, 10:22 PM
Clean the gun from the chamber in and you don't need a bore guide.

smokiniron
November 5, 2012, 10:54 PM
Sweetshooter... There was a Q-tip thread s few days back. I was convinced to try Q-tips on the chamber area. But, yes. A little solvent ooze in the chamber makes sense. Good point.

Edward429451
November 8, 2012, 02:01 PM
That's what I was thinking, who needs a bore guide for a rifle that is easily cleaned from the breech side?

Mobuck
November 9, 2012, 06:28 AM
If you've ever cleaned an AR, you know it's difficult to keep patches on the rod while traversing the action. A bore guide that fits snugly into the upper and is properly sized will make this easier. It also prevents out of bore line rod entry into the bore which can cause abrasion/wear to the chamber and throat. A good bore guide is also long enough to keep the upper and lower separated while cleaning, preventing pinched fingers or rub marks on the top of the lower's stock boss.
I use one of the Delrin guides with the o-ring at the chamber end and it works well. The o-ring really only holds the guide in the chamber since the muzzle is lower than the action while in the gunvise anyway.

smokiniron
November 9, 2012, 02:43 PM
Very helpful to a noob. I just posted a new thread re cleaning gas impingement tubes. Any comments there would also be much appreciated.

I did end up buying a Delrin bore guide with a small chamber 'O'-ring. It was $19 at LGS and looks like it handles the issues you raised. It also has the requisite juice port for wetting the swab in the guide instead of squeegee-ing all the cleaner off as you'd otherwise do. I guess I'd rather have excess fluids run out the muzzle that into the action.