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Sturmgewehre
September 30, 2012, 12:05 AM
http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/i-5J97vpw/0/L/i-5J97vpw-L.jpg

http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/i-nVzBcBD/0/L/i-nVzBcBD-L.jpg

Due around May.
Price: $1900 MSRP

5.56RifleGuy
September 30, 2012, 01:50 AM
Thanks for the pictures and update.

savage1r
September 30, 2012, 10:49 AM
Deleted because I didn't read that OP was Sturm. Sorry.

Achilles11B
September 30, 2012, 06:22 PM
Is there anywhere I can get more info?

JHansenAK47
October 1, 2012, 07:29 PM
Ohh great, a teaser.
Who is the importer?

Patriot86
October 3, 2012, 12:50 PM
Looks like I will be getting a Birthday present next year afterall!

A shame I need to wait until May but if everything looks GTG I will be picking one up.

Bamashooter
October 3, 2012, 11:52 PM
Not a big fan of the bullpups with the exception of the AUG. You guys enjoy.

insomni
October 4, 2012, 06:05 PM
have fun pwning all the BF3 noobs!

Fishbed77
October 5, 2012, 09:44 AM
Deleted. Sorry - wrong thread.

TWA
December 11, 2012, 09:43 AM
Learn more about IWI US and the TAVOR SAR at www.iwi.us.

IWI US is also now on Facebook at www.facebook.com/IWIUS. Please visit and "LIKE".

Woody55
December 11, 2012, 09:52 AM
Sure ain't purty.

How much does it weigh?

Patriot86
December 13, 2012, 01:37 PM
Want to get my hands on one bad...real bad...Would love to have the 9MM conversion kit too.

Achilles11B
December 13, 2012, 01:47 PM
I'm looking forward to their release. I'd love to see how it feels before dropping $2k for one. The 9mm and 5.45mm kits sound pretty good, though.

johnwilliamson062
December 13, 2012, 11:22 PM
I am also very interested. The only modern design at that pricepoint that has my attention.

RampantAndroid
December 14, 2012, 12:24 AM
I don't get these new guns...for much less I can get a good AR...which albeit isn't ambi or bullpup, but 1900 or so for a Tavor or a SCAR? Really?

johnwilliamson062
December 14, 2012, 12:35 AM
Will it include the red-dot linked to the safety?

I scrolled down and saw the red dot is an additional $600. A bit pricey IMO.

Fishbed77
December 14, 2012, 08:56 AM
I don't get these new guns...for much less I can get a good AR...which albeit isn't ambi or bullpup, but 1900 or so for a Tavor or a SCAR? Really?


It's great to live in America and have choices!

Bart Noir
December 14, 2012, 03:39 PM
It's great to live in America and have choices!

Agree. Even if we make bad ones.

But back to the Tavor. I think the concept of having a bayonet lug on these is a tad silly, even for the real-deal soldiers. How can you actually use this to stab somebody???

Yeah, yeah, I know about the British troops who made the famous bayonet charge in southern Iraq with their bullpup rifles. Likely it was the whole concept of any sort of infantry charge that caused the Shiite irregulars to skedaddle out of their. The Brits could have been charging with weed-whackers and got them to run :D

Especially the ones with the thick plastic string.

To Sturm, a thanks. I had been waiting and wondering about these new rifles. Now I am much more confident that they will actually be sold here in the US.

Bart Noir

Bart Noir
December 14, 2012, 03:40 PM
So, looking at the first picture that Sturm posted...

Is that a keyhole just forward of the ejection port? Say it ain't so!

Bart Noir

TripHlx
December 15, 2012, 06:08 PM
Just conjecture really, but judging by the position of the 'keyhole', it might be a lock for interchangeable barrels. Swapping calibers in the field doesn't really seem practical to me, not in this type of rifle, so requiring some sort of 'key' to swap to the 9mm barrel seems like a good idea.

sailskidrive
December 15, 2012, 09:03 PM
You know... every time I see a picture of an IDF soldier they are carrying an M4.

Are they actually issuing the Tavor???

Tucker 1371
December 15, 2012, 09:07 PM
Nifty... If the weight was around 6.5lbs I might bite. Something tells me it's heavier.

Patriot86
December 16, 2012, 09:51 PM
Google is my friend..

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Dm4Xx59f6NM/SPeDHQBFhfI/AAAAAAAABnk/M-PFnp3CyYU/s400/tavor_idf_1.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5294/israel2008b023.jpg

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSx9lfxmgFnuZX5aCgSB6GrV1ocmt2ZtK9TfiWk7zYz8SHRzEZvUlJBqmwvEQ

http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/7/4/1799503e-24b8-48a5-94ff-2a4e0e60a7e6.Full.jpg

http://www.ynet.co.il/PicServer2/02012008/1397963/SDE04_wa.jpg

Last I understood it the TAVOR is being phased in slowly , mainly on the unit level? At least that's what I read a couple of years ago.

Keep in mind while the Israeli's front line MBT is the merkava IV, they still have old M48's and M60 tanks in use with reserve units...Israeli's don't just scrap equipment like us, they seem to mothball it sort of like the Soviets did. Heck the Israeli's just took the last F-4's out of service in 2004.

I imagine you are still going to be seeing the UZI, M4 and M16 in regular use for the foreseeable future. I don't think its any sort of a mark for or against the TAVOR.

I know I can get a good AR and a Half for the same price as a TAVOR but I am willing to give a more modern system a chance.


Nifty... If the weight was around 6.5lbs I might bite. Something tells me it's heavier.

Looks like the weight of the Micr-Tavor is around 6.5 lbs, with a 10.5" barrel. I would have to imagine the US version is a little closer to 7 or 7.5 lbs.

uradaisyifudo
December 16, 2012, 10:09 PM
That rifle is cool, I like that you can have a short rifle that still has a 16.5 inch barrel so it is not consided a sbr. I don't have to think too hard to see the value in a compact 5.56 rifle.

spencey89
February 21, 2013, 10:49 AM
Anymore updates? I heard rumors of May at the earliest.

Skans
February 21, 2013, 11:04 AM
Why would I buy a Tavor over an Aug? They look about the same to me.

Kimio
February 21, 2013, 12:48 PM
Newer technology, among other things more likely, but mostly personal taste.

I like both but would choose an AUG over the TAVOR as well, the AUG just screams sexy IMO.

CUBAN REDNECK
February 21, 2013, 01:11 PM
Awesome. Hopefully the buying panic will subside my August.

I'vebeenduped
February 21, 2013, 04:24 PM
I think that I really NEED one of these! I really, honestly do!

Darker Loaf
February 21, 2013, 05:49 PM
They look pretty sick. Anybody know what a 9mm conversion kit would cost? That's not the worst MSRP at $1900 if it's super reliable (Is it? I'm assuming it would be) and if the 9mm kit is solid.

I kind of want a 9mm carbine of some sort and that would be a pretty sick setup, rather than a SBR. It'd still be nice and compact. Strum, do you know what kind of mags that would take? Another problem, I feel with 9mm carbines, is getting something with reliable mags. I wish everything would just take Glock mags... heh.

IXLR8
February 21, 2013, 06:25 PM
I held one at SHOT Show, and they are very nice. I am pretty sure that the 9mm uses UZI mags, so they should be easy to find. The word on the street is that the first shipment has already sold out nationwide. It is unlikely that you will find one for MSRP any time soon.
The Meprolight reflex sights are designed to be used with them. After doing some research I cannot find a reason not to use one except the price.

Bart Noir
February 21, 2013, 06:43 PM
Is "sick" supposed to be a favorable comment?

Bart Noir
Who understands "nifty" :D

Darker Loaf
February 21, 2013, 09:12 PM
Yes, "sick" is. Sorry, that's skater slang from my wannabe days. I should have said, "Man! Those guns look really put-together and well designed."

Darker Loaf
February 21, 2013, 09:19 PM
I want one as an alternative to an SBR. Though I am going to go for an NFA Trust, I still don't like the baggage of paperwork and the expense. Further more, I like the compatibility with my collection of AR .223 mags, and the 9mm conversion.

If the conversion is done really well, I'd take that instead of my goal of doing a 9mm AR carbine (which would likely also run on UZI mags). But I would LOVE a review or input on the reliability of said conversion. I am immediately suspicious of conversions, but the Israeli origin (military) of the gun makes me think that there is the possibility of high-reliability.

trg42wraglefragle
February 21, 2013, 09:23 PM
What would that rear sight be like?
It looks as though it would be terrible to aim through, as well as destroy any peripheral vision you would have.

Ludwig Von Mises
February 22, 2013, 02:02 AM
Can confirm firsthand that the Tavor is being issued on a unit by unit basis, mostly to specialized groups, I have a couple friends who carry em over there. Could scroll down my Facebook and see pics right now. However, the M4 and flattop M16 are still the go-to.

What would that rear sight be like?
It looks as though it would be terrible to aim through, as well as destroy any peripheral vision you would have.

I don't know, I wouldn't want to try, the red dot on the IDF/IMI Tavor is phenomenal, iron sights on it are for backup only. I believe it is meprolight manufactured.

RangerHAAF
February 26, 2013, 09:13 AM
I like the look of it and will buy one if they ever come out with one that operates with AK magazines in 7.62x39 or 308 Winchester. I'd love to take one in the woods with me for hunting.

Mark54g
February 26, 2013, 04:23 PM
They will take standard AR style magazines, and the 9mm will NOT use Uzi mags (though you can probably modify them to take them). They take 9mm AR style mags, though I wish they'd have made a conversion kit to take an easier to find/cheaper alternative too.

I want one. I want ALL the kits, and a nice reflex optic up top, with perhaps a laser on the side or bottom.

Sturmgewehre
February 26, 2013, 09:53 PM
9mm Colt mags are copied from Uzi mags. Both the Colt SMG mags and the Uzi mags can be modified to work in the Tavor.

Sturmgewehre
February 26, 2013, 09:55 PM
I picked up my Tavor last Friday. Here's a video showcasing the rifle, the full review will be coming in a couple of weeks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEY1XdQf_JA

http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/i-kbvJXbb/0/L/i-kbvJXbb-L.jpg

Patriot86
February 27, 2013, 01:16 PM
I need to start selling off a couple of my safe queens to buy one of these!

Sturmgewehre
February 28, 2013, 10:53 AM
They are in full production, they have racks of them just waiting final packing materials -- things like manuals and warranty cards. They will be shipping next month to distributors for sure at this point. I'm not sure what the initial shipments will be in terms of volume, but I'm told they will have quite a few of them available. I suspect the first few shipments will be snapped up by people and the price of them on places like GunBroker and GunsAmerica will be grossly inflated. Hopefully that will subside a bit over a few months and people who want them will be able to get them for the $1999 price.

From IWI:

http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/i-FnMzTwG/0/L/i-FnMzTwG-L.jpg

Aberration
February 28, 2013, 11:04 AM
I want one!

Patriot86
February 28, 2013, 01:40 PM
I am not one for paying above MSRP, if I can't get one of the base models for under $2,100.00 with all the crazyness and lack of AR supply I will wait. Would be a nice Birthday present for myself though.

Darker Loaf
March 18, 2013, 06:32 PM
Sturmgewehre, thanks for doing the Tavor review, by-the-way. I've really come to appreciate your youtube page and reviews. Keep up the good work!

BerdanSS
March 18, 2013, 06:44 PM
I always thought they were kinda mutely looking....but if they'er solid performers...who cares, right? I always favored the FN 2000 for a bullpup though. Looking forward to the full range report:)

Congrats on the new weapon by the way:cool:

SPEMack618
March 18, 2013, 07:27 PM
Neat looking piece. Too bad as a lefty I would never be able to shoot one.

In regards to the IDF phasing them in, I follow the Israeli consulate on Twitter.

And they tweeted some pics of the IDF working at getting a relief convoy into Ghaza. The trucks were driven by reservists, armed with Galils and the guys manning the checkpoints were armed with a mixture of Tavors and flatop M-16s/M-4s.

Achilles11B
March 19, 2013, 11:19 PM
They do have a left-handed version in the works, with the charging handle on the right side. This southpaw is pretty excited about that and will gladly consider selling/trading his 16" AR to fund picking one up one day.

Dr Big Bird PhD
March 19, 2013, 11:40 PM
Will there be a California compliant version for me to get my hands on? (or a bullet button I can personally install?)

5.56RifleGuy
March 20, 2013, 01:24 AM
I can't wait to get one. I'm on the list for one at my local shop, and have been for a while, but I guess we will see. I'm not going to pay a ton for one.

Fishbed77
March 20, 2013, 08:14 AM
Neat looking piece. Too bad as a lefty I would never be able to shoot one.


The Tavor is completely ambidextrous, so I'm not sure why you couldn't shoot one.

Patriot86
March 22, 2013, 07:27 PM
They are also shipping some units already set up for lefty's so its GTG out of the box ;)

Bad news is supposedly there are going to be very few shipped like this
Good news there are far fewer left handed shooters than right so finding one might not bee as hard as you think.

I wonder how long it will be before right handed people are buying lefty models and converting them because of availability?

SPEMack618
March 22, 2013, 07:42 PM
That was my concern, was the necessary modifications to make it ambi-.

The thought of tinkering on an expensive carbine like that makes me nervous.

johnwilliamson062
March 22, 2013, 07:57 PM
You don't have to tinker at all. You take it apart more or less like you need to to clean it and put it together with the controls on the other side of the gun. THere is a video or two on youtube showing how easy it is. The charging handle is the only thing that might take more skill than simple cleaning.