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Amsdorf
September 25, 2012, 06:33 AM
Hey guys, I've been going through the gun safe recently pulling out some gems, here's a post-WWII Garand, graded "Collector" by the Civilian Marksmanship Program.

On the video I also get into the pronunciation of the name "Garand" ... for the man John Garand and for his rifle. It's not the same.

Any of you guys have a Collector Grade and would you be willing to show it off and share a pic or two of it??

We Garand nuts can't get enough Garand pics!!

Here is the video link. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8P7wxjc-GI)



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Art Eatman
September 25, 2012, 12:56 PM
Even before I went into the Army in 1954 and did Basic with the old M1, I always had heard the name accented on the second syllable.

Amsdorf
September 25, 2012, 01:55 PM
Right, that is how the rifle's nickname is pronounced, but not the way the man's name is pronounced.

Just an interesting historical tidbit.

James K
September 26, 2012, 06:49 PM
I should know better than to start a discussion with a man who says he knows everything about everything, but why would the name of the man and the name of the rifle he designed be pronounced differently?

Jim

MJ1
September 26, 2012, 07:14 PM
I should know better than to start a discussion with a man who says he knows everything about everything, but why would the name of the man and the name of the rifle he designed be pronounced differently?

Jim
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Amsdorf
September 26, 2012, 07:24 PM
If you want to learn about John Garand and his rifle, this is the book to read.

Julian S. Hatcher, The Book of the Garand.

General Hatcher worked closely with Mr. Garand for years and is in a much better position to know how his name was pronounced than anyone on this forum.

If you have documentation you wish to provide contradicting General Hatcher, please provide it. I'd like to see it.

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James K
September 27, 2012, 12:06 PM
All I know is that the Army colonel who introduced us pronounced it Gar'and with the first syllable as in "garish", and that is the way I pronounced it. Mr. Garand didn't correct either of us, so I assume that was the right way.

You, of course, are free to pronouce it any way you want.

Jim

Amsdorf
September 27, 2012, 12:39 PM
Mr. Garand was too much a gentleman to embarrass somebody as you suggested he should have.

Again, if you have better information than General Hatcher, share it.

Otherwise, it is an established fact that Mr. Garand pronounced his name like "errand" with a hard G and emphasis on first syllable. The rifle picked up the nickname "Guhrand" with emphasis on the "and."

Those are the facts.

James K
September 27, 2012, 01:53 PM
He didn't need to embarrass anyone; the colonel knew him well and would not have mispronounced his name. As for "facts", we have been listening to our beloved President long enough to know that "facts" are always subject to interpretation and re-invention.

Jim

Amsdorf
September 27, 2012, 02:36 PM
James K, I mean no disrespect toward you and no intention to offend you, but I hope you will understand that in spite of your personal anecdote, I will accept the report of General Hatcher, a man who worked very closely with Mr. Garand, for many years, instead of your speculations based on your much more limited experience with Mr. Garand.

chadio
September 27, 2012, 03:15 PM
SKS is easier to pronounce.... unless you try to say the words :D:D

Same for the M14 and M1A :D:D

Amsdorf
September 27, 2012, 06:40 PM
On that I'm sure we can all agree!

:D