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cajun47
September 20, 2012, 10:34 AM
or should i be buying soft points for sd?

plouffedaddy
September 20, 2012, 11:50 AM
It really depends. Which Russian ammo are you talking about?

That said, the nastiest 7.62x39 round I know of is Hornady's SST....

TheGunGuy
September 20, 2012, 11:53 AM
Uhh... Seeing as how Johnny Jihad is using comblock steel-cased fmj with pretty good success in their AKs...

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plouffedaddy
September 20, 2012, 12:51 PM
Johnny Jihad is using a lot of 7N6 5.45 these days.

Here's some gel tests of the 7.62x39 SST round:

Gel tests (http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/DocGKRData/762x39%20123grVMAX.htm)

481
September 20, 2012, 01:53 PM
Both will do the job.


http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19885

spacecoast
September 20, 2012, 03:52 PM
Anyone know if the current crop of Tula-based ammo is steel core or lead core?

Lloyd Smale
September 22, 2012, 06:29 AM
theres sure alot of soldiers sitting up there with God that will attest to its effectiveness.

Departed402
September 23, 2012, 04:31 AM
Unfortunately, the Vietman War Memorial Wall in D.C. is pretty long. Granted, a fair share were probably IEDs and traps, but I'm sure many American GIs fell to the AK or SKS.

wnycollector
September 23, 2012, 06:40 PM
Here (http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_54/144707_8M3_SAPSAN_Hollowpoint_7_62x39.html) is an interesting thread about new production 7.62x39 ammo with the 8m3 Sapsan bullet.

bamaranger
September 24, 2012, 01:34 PM
I hate to even start down this path. So up front, all praise to our military and our allies in all past history and present.

So......seems like I read where in WWII, a high percentage of casualties were fragmentation related. Nam was different, many more projectile/bullet wounds percentage wise. Likely near all x39mm fmj.

God rest them all and comfort their families. Let us always honor and not forget.

Mr Budha
September 24, 2012, 03:07 PM
I know it's somewhat off topic but let's say all you had was some Brown Bear 7.62x39 FJM to hunt boar or maybe even a deer. Effective? Not so Effective?

plouffedaddy
September 24, 2012, 06:03 PM
It would be very effective on deer as it would on two legged intruders. However, there likely are better performers. A lot of hunters like the S&B soft points for instance.

scottd913
September 26, 2012, 12:03 AM
Anyone know if the current crop of Tula-based ammo is steel core or lead core? i have a closet full and they are steel / copper jackets...

chris in va
September 26, 2012, 01:32 AM
It's a lead core with thin steel jacket and copper wash.

Sweet Shooter
September 26, 2012, 02:37 AM
All are open base, mild steel bullets. Even the HP and PSP are open base, not cup and core. I have changed my opinion of these cheep steel clad rounds. The copper washed steel is softer than some "copper" bullets. I have a spring-loaded center punch that shows this in an obvious way.

My favorite is Herter's SP 154 gr. All of the imported stuff I have tried are .311 dia and fits the 7.62 bore proper. The American stuff is .310 or (cringe!) .309 and not as accurate.


Sorry lost the plot there... yes absolutely a "man stopper"... I'm going to use mine on antlerless Elk this year.
-SS-