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plouffedaddy
August 25, 2012, 12:35 PM
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I've shot a lot of AKs in my day and (as long as they're properly assembled) they're all great rifles. From my $400 WASRs to this AK-103K, they do what they were designed to do––-get rounds downrange reliably while being capable of withstanding abuse that would deadline most other rifle platforms. That said, this rifle may be the finest AK I've ever laid my hands on.

Ever since I first shot a friend's Krebs rifle years ago I always lusted for one of my own but could just never justify the cost. Like I said earlier––-virtually all AKs work well so why would I pay $300-400 over what a Arsenal (already expensive) costs? Tough to answer. For me it came down to just being annoyed of lusting after these rifles for so long and deciding to sell off a few handguns that I never shot anymore and just placing the order.

To that end, Krebs rifles probably aren't on the wall of your local gun shop. They can be ordered direct from Mark Krebs' website www.krebscustom.com or from a few online retailers. I picked mine up from Atlantic which was cheaper than going direct and they also gave free shipping due to my membership of several gun forums.

Here's what I've found through shooting this gun over the last month or so:

Pros:
-Reliability. The gun has been 100% with all ammo/mag combinations
-Accuracy. This is the most accurate 7.62x39 AK I've ever shot. Krebs does some accurizing to the crown of the rifle's barrel before shipping it out and I suspect that (and the Russian hammer forged barrel) is the source of the increased accuracy
-Fit and finish are superb. The gun is refinished in "Krebs Kote" solvent proof finish which looks great and is holding up well so far. It's much nicer than Arsenal's factory paint
-Polished G2 trigger. I polish all my AK triggers anyway, but this one is well done (see the video below for evidence)
-Very smooth action. Again, I smooth my action when getting any AK but having it done from the factory is nice
-Cut and pinned 16'' barrel. The 2'' or so you save in OAL helps with the "handling" properties of the rifle
-It comes from the factory with the Krebs AK safety which is on all of my AK rifles. I think it's the finest on the market
-It comes with 2 30 round steel mags. It always annoyed me that my SGLs and SLRs came with 5 or 10 round mags!

Cons:
-Cost. It's tough to justify spending this kind of money on an AK


Here's a video with some shooting from 15m, 40m, 75m, a 25m group, a tabletop review, and a chrono test with some Golden Tiger ammo:

KREBS AK-103K HD VIDEO REVIEW LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaAboeAJXPM&feature=g-upl)

Chrono numbers:

124gr Golden Tiger FMJ: 2386fps, 1567 ft/lbs energy

For reference, the same ammo in my SGL 21 with 16'' barrel averaged 2388fps with the same ammo; so no loss in velocity out of the cut and pinned AK-103K barrel.
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spacecoast
August 25, 2012, 01:49 PM
Nice looking AK, I especially like that enhanced safety. You're right, that's a lot of money.

plouffedaddy
August 26, 2012, 06:45 AM
I especially like that enhanced safety.

I love the Krebs safety--best out there IMO.

If you're looking for one, circle10ak.com sells them for $42. In terms of function, it's probably the best $42 you can spend on an AK.

spacecoast
August 26, 2012, 01:32 PM
If you're looking for one, circle10ak.com sells them for $42. In terms of function, it's probably the best $42 you can spend on an AK.

I agree, it's a very desirable upgrade. Thanks for the source.

Eghad
August 26, 2012, 06:12 PM
I like the high priced AKs because they are making it a market with alternatives.

SIG 556-R with folding stock in 7.62x 39 that uses AK-47 Mags for around $1100.00

RRA also has a rifle LAR-47 that uses AK-47 mags now

I have a WASR that I paid for $269.00 back in the day and I have about another $150 in it with upgrades.

spacecoast
August 26, 2012, 06:43 PM
plouffedaddy -

Can you measure the distance from the center of the mounting pin to the detent in the safety? I want to make sure it will fit my AK, which has "spots" rather than "slots" in the receiver to receive the detent.

bfskinnerpunk
August 26, 2012, 07:07 PM
Oh nice.

I'm wondering how well these things hold their value (or at least, how much or little they depreciate)

plouffedaddy
August 27, 2012, 08:05 AM
Can you measure the distance from the center of the mounting pin to the detent in the safety? I want to make sure it will fit my AK, which has "spots" rather than "slots" in the receiver to receive the detent.

I will when I get home either today or tomorrow. Why would your receiver be different though? Is it a Saiga sporter?

spacecoast
August 27, 2012, 08:29 AM
Why would your receiver be different though? Is it a Saiga sporter?

No different, but when I was researching it I saw a couple of reports of the detent being positioned a little differently in different guns.

tobnpr
August 27, 2012, 09:02 AM
When you say it's the most accurate AK you've used, can you be more specific...anything close to minute of angle?

plouffedaddy
August 27, 2012, 10:13 AM
I'm running irons so I don't know that I can give you an accurate MOA figure. In the video I do shoot a group but I'm pretty sure I jerked the last resulting in it being low. The target is in the video with a measuring tape so you can check it out if you want... Again, shooter error is why I hesitate to say one way or another.

chris in va
August 27, 2012, 01:07 PM
Russian barrel...same as a Saiga? Seems like there is a lot of profit being made by Krebs.

Mr Budha
August 27, 2012, 01:59 PM
Nice gun, I don't think I could stomach that much for an AK (hell I can't afford that for any gun right now :P) but it obviously is a quality firearm. Enjoy it!

spacecoast
September 2, 2012, 06:10 AM
Plouffedaddy, did you have a chance to measure that safety?

plouffedaddy
September 2, 2012, 09:36 AM
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I hope that helps.