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curmudgeon1
August 6, 2012, 11:53 PM
Does anyone have experience/knowledge of a brand of scope that will withstand the vibration of occasional bump-firing without the innards being jarred out of alignment ? The inexpensive one I have couldn't hack it. It's kaput.

oneshot onekill
August 7, 2012, 06:35 AM
Honestly, I haven't seen a scope that couldn't handle an AR's recoil. Yours must have either been defective to begin with or been made for a pellet gun. I use a slidefire on my AR and cheap scopes have done fine. Granted, I don't expect great performance from those scopes because the AR isn't all that accurate. But they hold zero fine.

jephthai
August 7, 2012, 06:50 AM
If you achieve one-shot-one-kill when slide firing, you must be quite accurate indeed!

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oneshot onekill
August 7, 2012, 07:01 AM
Ha-Ha... No, that's achieved with a Bolt Gun. And for the record, those targets are the four-legged variety. For me, an AR is for plinking less than 100 yds. so a scope, if any, only needs to be very low power.

madcratebuilder
August 7, 2012, 07:51 AM
What are you shooting? A .458? The 5.56 has little to no recoil and even a rimfire scope should survive on it.

There are dozens of different 1-4 scopes made specifically for the AR, $100 to $1000, take your pick.

Isn't bump firing with a scope kind of counter productive? Try using a red dot when bump firing.

curmudgeon1
August 7, 2012, 03:37 PM
:) The AR is a Colt 5.56, and the scope is a 6-24x44, and we were shooting at (and sometimes hitting) a red two-inch dia. bullseye on an eight-inch Shoot n' See target at 300 yards. Shortly after this, I was demonstrating bump-fire to my son and grandson just for fun, and when we returned to aimed fire I noticed the internals of the scope were kablooie. I don't want to mention the brand name of the scope because I think I might have abused it's inexpensive capability. Still looking for one that can handle this kind of occasional abuse.

madcratebuilder
August 8, 2012, 06:10 AM
I might have abused it's inexpensive capability. Still looking for one that can handle this kind of occasional abuse.

This can happen with any low cost scope. I've seen Leapers and NcStar fail after a few rounds or take years of abuse, luck of the draw.

Check out this Alpen Apex XP rifle scope (http://www.alpenoptics.com/RScope-apex.html), I have the model 4058 on a AR-10 and it was been tracking and returning to zero perfectly this season. A friend of mine had bought it and had it on his AR-10, he needed some cash and sold it to me at a reasonable price. I would rate it right with my Vortex Viper 6.5-20X50 with better eye relief. Best I have used in this price range.

tobnpr
August 8, 2012, 06:06 PM
Any decent quality scope can handle the minimal recoil of the 5.56.
Get a Vortex Viper 6.5-20 x 44...
Lifetime warranty to whomever sends in the scope. Best quality for the money in optics today.

http://swfa.com/Vortex-65-20x44-Viper-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P13285.aspx

10-96
August 8, 2012, 06:25 PM
This is just a crazy thought, but have you thought about a 1-piece base/ring setup? The Burris PEPR has large nuts that can be held just fine at finger tight. The scope and base unit is easily removed, so you can bumpfire, and put back on when you want to see where you're shooting again.

If you mean bumpfiring by hooking your thumb through the trigger guard and into your pocket or belt loop?

drfroglegs
August 8, 2012, 06:32 PM
Here's my $0.02

You should look into getting a red dot/holographic + flip up/over magnifier. My uncle has an Eotech holographic with xx magnifier. You can use the holographic or red dot for bump fire and flip over the magnifier for more long range shots. It's one of the nicest combination optics you can get for an AR IMHO...

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/453878/eotech-512-holographic-weapon-sight-65-moa-circle-with-1-moa-dot-reticle-matte-aa-battery?cm_vc=1868BrandPopProd

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1868116063/eotech-g33-3x-magnifier-with-switch-to-side-quick-detachable-mount

There are cheaper alternatives if you're willing to do the research to see what is compatible.

Also, if your scope quit it was because it was a ****ty scope not because of the 5.56 recoil. I've seen airsoft scopes on ARs that worked just fine. Plus, any scope worth a crap has a lifetime warranty.. Why put a $50 scope on a $1k rifle?!

tahunua001
August 8, 2012, 06:50 PM
I have a nikon prostaff on my AR15 and it's never lost zero. I would recommend them. also redfield revolutions are very good but a little more expensive.

curmudgeon1
August 9, 2012, 09:10 PM
10-96 wrote:
This is just a crazy thought, but have you thought about a 1-piece base/ring setup? The Burris PEPR has large nuts that can be held just fine at finger tight. The scope and base unit is easily removed, so you can bumpfire, and put back on when you want to see where you're shooting again.

If you mean bumpfiring by hooking your thumb through the trigger guard and into your pocket or belt loop?
My scope and base unit are mounted on the carry handle by one nut that is easily removed, but, like a dummy I thought I could leave it on to maintain zero, and yes, I was using the thumb-thru-trigger-guard and into-beltloop trick.
Luckily, a guy on another forum I frequent had a 6.5-20x40mm Leupold for sale at a good price, so I snapped it up. No bump-firing while this one's on the rifle though.:) Thanks for all the response guys.

10-96
August 9, 2012, 09:25 PM
Hmm, I wonder if that type mount is what allowed enough vibration or battering to damage the scope, or if the scope was on it's last leg and just about ready to poop out anyhow?

I had that type mount on an A-2 for a while. I bought the cheapest I could find and wondered why things just didn't jive for me.:o I managed to trade myself into a flat top before I got around to getting a better mount.

Glad to hear you got a good deal on that Leupold... sounds like you're ready to hit a prairie dog town!:D