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GeauxTide
August 3, 2012, 09:00 PM
Thinking of acquiring one of these. Standard or Scout Squad and stock preference?

kraigwy
August 3, 2012, 09:16 PM
I vote for the Standard Model. That's the way the gun was designed to be.

FrosSsT
August 3, 2012, 10:02 PM
Its really personal preference. I bought the Scout - I wanted something in the middle of the line (not as long as the standard but not as short as the socom). I know people who have the socom and love it because its compact, and some the Standard because its original and classic. Get what fits YOU best.

TimW77
August 4, 2012, 12:39 AM
"Thinking of acquiring one of these. Standard or Scout Squad and stock preference?"

GeauxTide, will that be in a .260R for you?:D

T.

Auto426
August 4, 2012, 04:13 AM
Barrel length depends on what you want to use the rifle for. If you want to use it while traveling through brush or other tight spaces then go with the shorter barrel, but for just plinking at the range or all around use I like the standard setup. I'd opt for a synthetic stock myself, but it's hard to beet the looks of wood.

madcratebuilder
August 4, 2012, 06:08 AM
Personally I like the long rifle myself but the short ones shoot well. The "loaded" model gives you a NM trigger, barrel and quasi NM sights. Buy it in wood and you can add a GI fiberglass stock very cheap.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/2M1As.jpg

Jo6pak
August 4, 2012, 08:50 AM
I prefer the Scout length. I just like a handier weapon, and the balance of the Scout is just about perfect IMO.
http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t407/DReisinger72/croppedM1A.jpg

For the Standard models, I prefer the wood stock, but the Scout and SOCOM I think look better with synthetic

Keg
August 4, 2012, 09:11 AM
I have a Socom and love it....My next will be a Scout....

Jo6pak...I like yer setup...

eastbank
August 4, 2012, 09:25 AM
a 1985 standard walnut with national match sights front and back. looks just like the first rifle i carried in the service(only semi-auto). eastbank.

Neezer
August 4, 2012, 09:25 AM
Wow, I'm jealous of all of these pictures of flash hiders, magazines and pistol grips. We are not allowed to have them in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia.

I think the Scout (with a traditional handguard) looks and feels the best!

FJ4ZROX
August 4, 2012, 09:36 AM
Have had a scout for about 10 yrs...love it so much I picked up a Super Match....wonderful guns in either size. :)

SR420
August 4, 2012, 10:38 AM
You can't go wrong with the 18.0" Bush/Scout M1A.

When I asked the same question many years ago, everyone told me get
the standard... I thanked them for their opinions and purchased a Scout.

I now own a 16.25", two 18.0" and three standard length configurations.

The 18.0" is my personal favorite.

Their are plenty of stocks to choose from, a tight fitting USGI synthetic
with a reinforced fore end is really nice. I prefer a pistol grip and like the
SAGE EBR, I'll also have a Blackfeather RS soon and it looks like a winner.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/The_H2O_MAN/MK14EBR-RI/RRM-SCOUT.jpg

http://www.athenswater.com/images/MK14SEI-L.JPG





Sold my AR-15 after I purchased my Scout...

Sold my AR-10 to fund a custom built SEI M14...

No regrets :)





.

GeauxTide
August 4, 2012, 09:23 PM
That would be fantastic if it came in 260.

GeauxTide
August 4, 2012, 09:26 PM
Thanks very much for the replies and pics. Beautiful weaponry, indeed.

TimW77
August 4, 2012, 10:29 PM
As much as you like the 6.5mm cartridges, build one...

Might be quite a while before I can do it but after my last Grendel project, a .260R upper for my RRA LAR-8 is next!

T.

Edward429451
August 5, 2012, 12:02 AM
I like the longer Standard length model better. I regret the synthetic stock, wish I had gone wood. Nothing wrong with a Match barrel & trigger to me. Not too far of a deviation from standard, and very useful without being gaudy.

TheGoldenState
August 5, 2012, 12:04 AM
I can only speak for the Socom II.

And I speak highly.

Ridge_Runner_5
August 5, 2012, 12:33 AM
I prefer the standard length. Get more range out of that big bullet. Plus the smaller version leads to a louder gun and a bigger flash.

ROGER4314
August 5, 2012, 12:35 AM
I had a full match Springfield with every option except the rear lug. It was a beauty and I thought the world of it. Unfortunately, I could outscore it using an above average AR-15 with A2 and 20" barrel.

I used Sierra 168 grain Match Kings in the M1A and 69 grain Match Kings in the AR at 200 and 600 yards. The M1A wouldn't shoot with the AR (both with iron sights). I was pretty disappointed.

The nice thing about the M1A is that I gave $1940 with extra mags ten years ago. I sold it this year for $1940. I can't complain.

Flash

madcratebuilder
August 6, 2012, 07:23 AM
That would be fantastic if it came in 260.


I've been watching GB for a .260 upper for my AR-10. ArmaLite has offered the AR-10B in .260 for some time now, I'm sure I'll find one some day.

The AR-10 has cut back the range time the M1A's see and doubled my 7.62 ammo consumption.

NerdNoise
August 7, 2012, 05:17 PM
What do you guys think of the M21 tactical model?

Woody55
August 7, 2012, 05:29 PM
They are all a pleasure to shoot, but I like the standard version with a wood stock. It's beautiful. It's what a battle rifle should look like. :)

Keg
August 8, 2012, 02:44 AM
Woody...actually todays battle rifle would look more like SR420's pic....
I kinda like the different configurations tho....

SR420
August 8, 2012, 08:24 AM
Today's Battle Rifle, the TACOM M14EBR-RI

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/184241_193100514046643_108939879129374_573735_701335_n.jpg

Chard
August 8, 2012, 10:37 AM
Rack Grade MBR
LRB M14 with H&R parts
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/GLG20/d321266c.jpg

SR420
August 8, 2012, 11:04 AM
Nice MBR Chard! I also like the old Land Cruiser.



My M21A5 type SEI is almost rack grade...

http://www.athenswater.com/images/M21A5-light.jpg

geetarman
August 8, 2012, 01:24 PM
Madcrate,

I HATE you :) when you post the picture of that M1A in wood. That is one of the finest I have ever seen.

ronc0011
August 8, 2012, 02:03 PM
Yeah I love shooting ithis one But I think my next purchase is going to be an AR in 308. I was just looking on YouTube at the Colt 901 looks pretty cool pretty pricy though.

I also need to get a GI issue sling for this one. They're around for pretty good prices
.
http://ronc.me/images/M1A.jpg

GeauxTide
August 8, 2012, 02:51 PM
Thanks, again, for all the replies. Ordered a Scout Squad in walnut.

jlwatts3
August 8, 2012, 03:13 PM
Scout squad bbl with composite stock (choose your favorite color- I'd get the OD green to match my Mini-14).

ronc0011
August 8, 2012, 05:09 PM
Gzzzz!!! I need to go to the range. Maybe this weekend.:confused: :confused:

Woody55
August 8, 2012, 05:21 PM
@Keg,

Woody...actually todays battle rifle would look more like SR420's pic.... I kinda like the different configurations tho....

It would look like that. But I don't have to like it!

There is just something elegant about the lines of standard M1A and M14. Even my wife says they are nice looking.

I guess I'm getting old. I've stopped carrying an AR-15 around the place and started carrying a Winchester 1894.

Maybe in 10 years I'll be carrying a Brown Bess?

Jo6pak
August 8, 2012, 05:31 PM
Thanks, again, for all the replies. Ordered a Scout Squad in walnut.

Congrats:cool:

SR420
August 8, 2012, 06:43 PM
GeauxTide

Thanks, again, for all the replies. Ordered a Scout Squad in walnut.

That's how my addiction began, a Scout Squad in Walnut...

http://www.athenswater.com/images/M1A-Scout.JPG

Neezer
August 8, 2012, 09:04 PM
Let the accessorizing begin!! Cleaning kit, special M1A/M14 tools, extra mags, stripper clips, lubriplate, extended magazine release, bipod mount, GI sling, and lots and lots of ammo.

akguy1985
August 9, 2012, 03:13 AM
I like the standard model. I have two of them, one wood one synthetic.

Ridge_Runner_5
August 11, 2012, 12:56 PM
M1A Loaded with Sadlak mount and Vortex Crossfire 4-16x50 scope

http://i.imgur.com/2xuyZl.jpg

nyc71
August 12, 2012, 05:48 PM
Scout
83120

SmokyBaer
August 14, 2012, 09:16 PM
Cant go wrong with any of the lengths, in my opinion. It's really about what fits your build and shooting style.
I've grown into the pistol grips and shoot way better using them.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o95/hobunchastuf/My%20Gun%20Pics/Scout%20Squad%20308/MyNavySealGrayEBR.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o95/hobunchastuf/My%20Gun%20Pics/Scout%20Squad%20308/M14Collection2011.jpg

GeauxTide
August 17, 2012, 08:26 PM
It's a beaut! Now, what's the best mag for the money? $45 for a 20 round and $32 for a 10 seems steep, although it is SA.

FrosSsT
August 17, 2012, 08:34 PM
what's the best mag for the money?

Hard to beat CMI.

geetarman
August 18, 2012, 12:41 PM
+++++ on the CMI mags.

I think they make originals for Springfield. You can get some cheap knockoffs from CTD but if your experience with them is like mine, you will not like them.

http://www.44mag.com/product/m1a_m14_magazine_20_usgi/check-mate_industries


This is where I got mine.

kraigwy
August 18, 2012, 08:08 PM
All my M1A mags are GI issue, never had a problem with any of them. In clearing my books when I retired from the guard, we threw away a whole foot locker full of new M14 mags, as the surplus people wouldnt take them. Kind of wished I kept them

Anyway this is what a M1A is suppose to look like.

http://photos.imageevent.com/kraigwy/posting/websize/M1A%20_1_.jpg

THORN74
August 19, 2012, 10:52 AM
i love my scout, changed out the SAI brake for a std flash hider, snd too off the forward rail in favor of a std handguard. if u are ever going to get into high power/military rifle matches get the std ... the 18" barrel on the scout DQs u.

SmokyBaer
August 20, 2012, 08:20 AM
Hard to beat CMI.

Absolutely... Not one failure with mine either.

Master Blaster 2
August 20, 2012, 03:38 PM
I thought Fulton Arms made the best M1As. That is what they used to say...everything else was junk.

Wyoredman
August 20, 2012, 03:50 PM
Damn Kraigwy, that M1A has been well used! That is one cool gun. I scrolled back and compared it to the other shiney guns posted here, and it looks like the only one that has had its' trigger pulled!

Bet you can knock the center out of a watermellon at 300 m with that thing!

I love it!

SmokyBaer
August 21, 2012, 08:53 AM
Damn Kraigwy, that M1A has been well used! That is one cool gun.

Agreed!! I really like the grip on that stock too. Old Super Match, I believe.

SR420
August 21, 2012, 12:10 PM
Nice collection SmokyBaer!

I especially like the SAGE EBR and LAW483 laminated E2 :cool:

kraigwy
August 21, 2012, 12:30 PM
I really like the grip on that stock too. Old Super Match, I believe.

I bought that rifle new as a standard grade in 1977 for $295. I started shooting for the guard, and a couple years later Gene Barnett (Barnett Barrels, and at the time was armor for the NG MTU) converted it to a supper match.

I've shoot it quite a bit over the years, having to replace the shot out barrels and had some stretched out slings that had to be replaced. Other then that its held up quite well and still shoots today.

SmokyBaer
August 23, 2012, 11:55 AM
Nice collection SmokyBaer!

I especially like the SAGE EBR and LAW483 laminated E2

Thanks!!
and you have a good eye. Yep, that is a Tony special. The Camo laminate E2 is the favorite of all my stocks. Fits my Scout really well and feels great. It is probly my only M1A i dont constantly fiddle with to try and make better. Have to give credit where due... that Sage EBR is pretty accurate. I need to drop a couple deer with it this year. Suzy Scout shouldn't get all the glory, huh.

henschman
August 24, 2012, 10:22 AM
The only Springfields I would own myself are the older ones, from back when they actually put chrome-lined barrels on them, as per mil spec. They don't even offer that option on the newer ones, and haven't since sometime in the early 2000s. It's never been an option on the 18" barreled Springfields.

Here's my rifle. It's an old M1A with all GI parts. I have it in a new SAI plastic stock that is very light weight. It weighs 8.5 lbs. without the scope and cheek rest, 10 lbs. with. I love the scope -- it's a Burris TAC30 1-4x24.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/henschman/guns/Springfield1.jpg

bram.baxter
September 17, 2012, 06:31 AM
These are all awesome guns! I know its kind of silly, but have any of you ever taken a M1a out deer hunting? Or out hunting anything for that matter.

misterE
September 17, 2012, 10:58 AM
I'm sure plenty of use have taken them hunting. I got mine around September last year and wasn't really planning on hunting with it, but it was so fun to shoot and tinker with, I decided to take it out deer hunting around Christmas. Shot a doe and a 8 pt that morning in fairly heavy rain. Both shots around 100 yards. Both 1 shot kills through heart. These rifles are awesome! Mine is a "loaded" stainless version. Another cool thing was, I thought the 20 round mag was going to be cumbersome in the deer woods. I haven't gotten any smaller mags yet. Well, I was hunting out of a climbing stand and that 20 round mag was just the rit height for a gun rest off the front rail of my stand for both of those shots.

MJ1
September 17, 2012, 11:00 AM
Took a few wild pig at the old Ft. Hunter-Ligget 100 to 120 lbs with my '81 NM/M21

Single Six
September 17, 2012, 11:18 AM
I vote for the Scout Squad, synthetic stock. Also, since you're getting the rifle that I've always wanted but will never be able to afford....I hate you.;)

SR420
September 17, 2012, 03:33 PM
Single Six I vote for the Scout Squad, synthetic stock.

Excellent selection sir!

I'm in the process of reconfiguring this one, it has a standard weight 18" barrel
that is chrome lined, it's chambered for M118LR with 4 grooves and a 1:10 ROT.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/The_H2O_MAN/MK14EBR-RI/UniqueM8023-2.jpg

THORN74
September 17, 2012, 06:46 PM
The scout is awesome.... I love mine ... it handles like a dream and is very accurate

The only thing in will say is if u ever want to shoot compititions get the STD length barrel. The scouts 18" will dq u .... of course that's just an excuse to buy a second one :D:D:D

Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk 2

bram.baxter
September 17, 2012, 07:07 PM
That scout looks like a dream rifle! misterE that hunt sounds awesome, I hope I can tell a story like that someday. If you were to use really pumped up hunting rounds in the m1, would you have to deactivate the gas piston or something in order to save your op rod from bending or does it not matter? :confused:

misterE
September 18, 2012, 10:51 PM
Yeah I wouldnt use " really pumped up hunting rounds". From what I can gather, if you stay under 180 grains in " non hot loaded hunting rounds" you are ok. I found that of the usual Walmart found 308 hunting rounds, Remington corelokt 150 grain grouped the best out of my rifle. I shoot these rounds very little, just enough to zero the rifle and hunt, so I'm not worried about it. Other than that, all I feed it is 7.62 NATO marked ammo ( because this rifle was designed to shoot that) or federal gmm. I can't see me getting my op rod bent any time soon. Matter of fact, we always talk about what ammo to feed the m1a, but I've never actually read about someone bending an op rod or anything else from shooting commercial hunting ammo. Maybe because all of us on here have heeded the advise. Maybe these guns are just plain hell for stout. Maybe someone will come along directly and tell stories of bent op rods........

Fatelvis
November 19, 2012, 10:50 AM
Gotta love seeing that messy 'Ol Stick-um on the stock. Brings back memories!