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FiveInADime
July 27, 2012, 02:50 AM
I want a rifle chambered for one of these cartridges and I have been leaning towards the Ruger M77 Hawkeye in 6.5CM. After fondling one of them the other day I am curious what else is out there and peoples opinions. I would like other suggestions of rifles in either chambering. I can't afford a custom and I don't want a target rifle. I would like Walnut but I can always change out a stock.

What do you guys think? I would also like to here some opinions on chamberings, as well.


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eastbank
July 27, 2012, 07:09 AM
i lean towards the .260 rem., cases are very easy to make and the power factor in just about even. i own a rem 7600 in .260, a browning 1885 low wall in .260 and a rem XP-100R in .260 and like and shoot them all. eastbank.

JerryM
July 27, 2012, 08:10 AM
Personally I would go with the .260 Rem. In the same length barrels I think the .260 is every bit as good, although I have never shot either.
I just Googled the question, and got this.
http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-shootout-260-6.5x47-6.5-creedmoor/?p=1

Jerry

603Country
July 27, 2012, 08:17 AM
I've got a Ruger 260 and I really like it. I don't think there's much diff between the two cartridges if the barrel length is the same. Either will do just fine.

Doyle
July 27, 2012, 10:09 AM
Two .260's here - Rem Model 7 and a Rem XP100R. I'll probably sell the XP100R soon (no place down here in FL where I really need that kind of long range pistol) but I don't think I'll ever give up my Model 7.

doceaux
July 27, 2012, 12:06 PM
model 7 .260ss 20 in barrel and browning abolt .260 both great shooters and hell on game.

PawPaw
July 27, 2012, 01:03 PM
I am curious what else is out there

There's lots out there. If you use Savage Arms gun-finder (http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/finder/) and click on the caliber, 6.5 Creedmore returns three results while .260 Remington returns 11 results. That's just one manufacturer. There are lots of 6.5 rifles out right now.

FiveInADime
July 27, 2012, 06:19 PM
model 7 .260ss 20 in barrel and browning abolt .260 both great shooters and hell on game.

Although I really like the model seven, I would like to have a 26" barrel or at least a 24". I would jump all over the 700 CDL SF .260 if I had the money.

Is the only advantage of the .260Rem the fact that you can neck up/down brass for it easily? From the reading I have done so far (including the article linked above) it seems that there isn't much advantage one over the other but a majority of people prefer the .260 Rem.

Right now the rifle that meets my criteria best is the Hawkeye in 6.5CM. It has a walnut stock, sporter barrel, 24"/26", and reasonably priced. After handling it, however, I was a little unimpressed with the actions elegance. All of my other bolt rifles are Win. Mdl. 70's and they seem to have more solid, smoother actions.

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hodaka
July 27, 2012, 07:11 PM
Stuck on a bolt action? DPMS and Armalite make dandy rifles in .260 and I think DPMS still makes one in 6.5 CM.

FiveInADime
July 27, 2012, 07:23 PM
Stuck on a bolt action? DPMS and Armalite make dandy rifles in .260 and I think DPMS still makes one in 6.5 CM.

I am absolutely stuck on bolt action. Besides, I think either of those would be cost prohibitive. If I were to spend that much I would just get a custom bolt-action or a Cooper.

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Doyle
July 27, 2012, 09:33 PM
Is the only advantage of the .260Rem the fact that you can neck up/down brass for it easily?

No. The .260Rem also seems to be very tolerant of short barrels. It is one of those calibers that seems to loose very little velocity as you go to shorter barrels.

eastbank
July 28, 2012, 06:59 AM
i have been useing varget powder in the .260, 7mm-08 and the .308 with very good results. eastbank.

MrBorland
July 28, 2012, 02:29 PM
Checke out tikka T3 or Sako A7. Speaking of .308 or 7mm-08, maybe buy used and Rebarrel to 6.5/.260?

pabuckslayer08
July 28, 2012, 03:00 PM
Easy, TC Icon 6.5 CM

FiveInADime
July 28, 2012, 04:24 PM
Easy, TC Icon 6.5 CM

Wow, I totally missed that one. You can even get a real fancy piece of wood on those if you want. Now I have to find a place to look at one. 5R rifling and under $700? Where has this one been hiding? Anyone have anything bad to say about this gun?

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GeauxTide
July 28, 2012, 04:49 PM
Also have two, a Ruger Compact and a Savage 16WW. Savage also chambers 6.5-284.........

pabuckslayer08
July 28, 2012, 10:39 PM
Nothing bad on the TC man, its a lights out shooter made in the U.S. I can tell you if you load that 6.5 up with factory Superformance ammo at 100 yards you will be sub MOA every 3 shot group. Hornady and TC have a real thing going with those guns

FiveInADime
July 29, 2012, 07:57 PM
Given, I will probably never fire a factory round from it, it is still nice to know that the Hornady factory ammo is good.

Wish I knew of a place I could handle an Icon.

Thanks for the info guys.


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Blackops_2
August 1, 2012, 02:35 AM
Very similar ballistically. IIRC hornady is the only supplier of 6.5CM brass so if your okay being stuck with hornady brass and like the CM go for it. I own a .260 so far it's been easy to load for. If i was restricted to both of those I would vote .260 simply because lapua/nosler brass. If were talking 6.5s i'm very eager to build a 6.5x47L, 30 degree shoulder cartridges seem to have a nack for being extremely accurate.

As for the rifle if you own a short action rifle just get it rebarreled and go shoot. If not savage or remington would be my pick.

No. The .260Rem also seems to be very tolerant of short barrels. It is one of those calibers that seems to loose very little velocity as you go to shorter barrels.


Good to hear, what kind of results are you getting in a 18-20" setup?

.308 retains a decent bit of velocity as well. I would throw .243 in there but you really have to push it just to be decent it's doable though. Our 18" .243 is running 105gr hunting VLDs right at 2700fps though in a 26" we'd probably be getting 2900+.

Doyle
August 1, 2012, 07:41 AM
I've never chrono'd from my 18.5" barrel but Quickload shows my loads should be somewhere north of 2800fps with a 128grn Hornaday SP over RL17.

FiveInADime
August 1, 2012, 07:52 PM
Very similar ballistically. IIRC hornady is the only supplier of 6.5CM brass so if your okay being stuck with hornady brass and like the CM go for it.

I have been using Hornady brass for my .243 for quite a while. I have 7-8 reloads on my first batch of brass and it's still holding up. When I buy again I might switch to Nosler Custom but I have no complaints with the Hornady brass so far and I have not found one reject in the 150 cases I have purchased new.

As for the rifle if you own a short action rifle just get it rebarreled and HP shoot. If not savage or remington would be my pick.


My .243 is my only short-action rifle. That one will not be tampered with until the barrel is shot out.

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Buzzcook
August 2, 2012, 12:28 PM
6.5CM?

FiveInADime
August 2, 2012, 04:34 PM
6.5CM?

Creedmoor

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RyeDaddy
August 3, 2012, 10:25 PM
For a bolt action I would go with a 260, for more case capacity and better market support. I own a Kimber Montana in 260, and have previously owned a Savage in the same.

260 brass is available from Lapua and Remington(I've used both with good results, although the Lapua is tougher), and is easy to neck down from 308 or 7mm-08 of any brand. 6.5CM is available only from Hornady as far as I know.

Loaded ammo for either can be had from a few sources, but there's more 260 out there.

As the Zak Smith article linked to above shows, the 260 ultimately has more potential than the Creedmoor due to case capacity, but they're about a wash.


For my next AR10 upper I plan on going with the 6.5CM over the 260 for loadability within magazine constraints, as the CM has a longer neck. It will also save me from having to keep track of brass between 2 different rifles using the same caliber.

Blackops_2
August 4, 2012, 12:22 AM
It's really a toss up for the caliber .260, 6.5CM, and 6.5x47L are all very accurate very similar cartridges as far as ballistics are concerned. Though the 6.5x47L is slower, you can push the round pretty hard with minimal pressure signs as Zak notes.

FiveInADime
August 4, 2012, 09:11 AM
It's really a toss up for the caliber .260, 6.5CM, and 6.5x47L are all very accurate very similar cartridges as far as ballistics are concerned. Though the 6.5x47L is slower, you can push the round pretty hard with minimal pressure signs as Zak notes.

Basically, what I am finding out is that it is going to be hard to get a hold of any rifles in either cartridge right now. I like the Tikka T3 Hunter the best, so far, despite the shorter barrel. I need to handle a TCA Icon. I would definitely consider a Savage, but I never have seen one with nice walnut. Anything I do seems that it will be a special order situation.

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Que
August 5, 2012, 01:28 PM
Just as an FYI, the Steyr Pro Hunter is available in 260. Steyr doesn't even list the rifle as available in 260, but it was for awhile and I have one. I hope to start working with it this month. The trigger is rather incredible.

akguy1985
August 8, 2012, 06:19 AM
I have a remington model 7 in .260. It suits me.

math teacher
August 8, 2012, 11:34 PM
I would love to have a 260, but they keep sticking the bolt on the wrong side. Anyone know of one under $1,000 for a leftie?

Doyle
August 9, 2012, 07:21 AM
I would love to have a 260, but they keep sticking the bolt on the wrong side. Anyone know of one under $1,000 for a leftie?

You could easily make one. Take any of the $400 Savages in a short action any buy a barrel wrench, set of go/nogo gauges, and new barrel in .260. By the time you sold the take-off barrel, you'd be out maybe $600 - even less if you picked up a used Savage.

math teacher
August 9, 2012, 11:20 AM
Thanks for the suggestion. Savage and Remington already makes left handed 7mm-08s. I might be money ahead to go that route. I just think the 260 is close to being a perfect deer rifle.

Doyle
August 9, 2012, 11:30 AM
While Remington makes a nice left handed rifle, using one as a doner action would be more costly than using a Savage. With a Savage, any halfway handy person could change the barrel using an inexpensive Savage nut wrench and a set of gauges to do the headspacing. With the Remington, it would have to go to a gunsmith (or at least someone with a proper barrel vise and action wrench) to get the old barrel off and then perhaps need a lathe to get the headspace right.

math teacher
August 9, 2012, 02:57 PM
Sorry, I didn't mean convert a 7mm-08 to 260. It's close enough to live with. I have a left handed Savage in 338, so you don't have to sell me on its virtues.

sc928porsche
August 9, 2012, 06:39 PM
260 has a slight edge over the 6.5 cm by balistics. 260 ammo is also easier to find in stores. Reloading for it is a breeze. I just sent my daughter 100rnds. of 260 for her Ariska 38 rechambered for 6.5x308 ( I converted before 260 rem was released).

tobnpr
August 11, 2012, 09:39 AM
Add the 7mm.-08 to that list.
Ballistically similar to all the others- the larger .284 pill might give you a slight edge in a hunting application.