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bc132
July 17, 2012, 04:02 PM
1 Serial Number 76923
2 Serial Number 299

Jim Watson
July 17, 2012, 04:28 PM
1. Colt 1860 Army .44 made 1862

2. Colt 1851 Navy cartridge conversion, Richards-Mason design.
A low number like that is probably one of the ones assembled out of parts on hand in the 1870s and numbered in its own series 1-3800. I guess it might be a very early gun returned for conversion by an individual.
Does it have any patent dates or other legible markings on it?

Hawg
July 17, 2012, 05:11 PM
I don't think that's a factory conversion. It has the late model conversion ring, cylinder and ejector but still retains the original barrel.

Jim Watson
July 17, 2012, 05:32 PM
It looks like a Flayderman 5B-121, octagon barrel and all.

Hawg
July 17, 2012, 05:45 PM
I don't have access to my Flayderman or much of anything else right now.:(

I know the first factory conversions had the rear sight on the conversion ring and the ejector mounted in the hole for the ram. Then they went to using the original hammer sight and changing the barrel to one without the lever hole and loading cutout.

bc132
July 17, 2012, 07:34 PM
Is there a good amount of interest with collectors/value in these guns? And with the first gun the Patent # reads 200

Hawg
July 17, 2012, 08:30 PM
That's not the patent number. The cylinder has been changed. That's the last three digits of the serial number of the gun the cylinder was originally on. It's kind of confusing but it should be read

Colt's patent
No. 200

Not, Colt's patent No. 200

Yes there's collector interest but the mismatched cylinder will bring it down some.

madcratebuilder
July 18, 2012, 08:46 AM
Is there a good amount of interest with collectors/value in these guns? And with the first gun the Patent # reads 200

I haven't been following the cap and ball market that close lately but the 1860 Army should be around a $1200 revolver and the 51 Navy as much as $2000+. Condition is everything and it's hard to tell from those pic's. They look fairly nice to me. Look at similar revolvers on Gunbroker and see what they sell for.