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PJ-Hunter
July 8, 2012, 03:42 PM
I got this as part of a deal in lieu of cash. I know that it's a Mauser. There is the logo enderneath the scope. Yes, it was sporturized.

But The pics will speak for themselves. Sure would be nice to get some more info on this. Such as ammo. I am thinking it is 7x57 mauser ammo but would love to be sure.

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PJ-Hunter
July 8, 2012, 05:10 PM
Anyone?

10-96
July 8, 2012, 05:28 PM
Sorry, not everybody takes a peek here when you think they ought to.

Yes, it's a 98 pattern mauser, however, it could be a 7.92x57 or a 7.65x53 Belgium Mauser ctg.

Your photos arent the best, but that narrows it down a tad. Do you see 7.92 or 7.65 stamped anywhere on it?

Here's where I started looking: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Herstal

10-96
July 8, 2012, 05:39 PM
You may have to pull the scope base off for a peek at the crest. Unless someone can decipher the proofs- it would be hard to tell if it's Peruvial, Venezuelan, Serbian, Croat, Slovenian, Slovakian, or ???

As with any surplus esp. a sporterized one, have a gunsmith do a chamber cast to determine exactly what ammo to feed it.

Also, you posted this thread in the Semi Automatic department- that may be one small reason it's not getting a whole lot of attention.

PJ-Hunter
July 8, 2012, 05:44 PM
Sorry. In all of my other forums, pretty used to fast answers.
I'll try to get better pics. The look fine on my laptop, but with the minimal size restriction with this forum I can see the quality lacking.

tahunua001
July 8, 2012, 05:44 PM
and you might also try moving it to the bolt forum or the C&R forum instead of the semi auto forum. the knowledge base just might not be here in this group.

Amsdorf
July 8, 2012, 05:44 PM
Best advice: Find a local smith who can help you make sure you know precisely what it's chambered in.

PJ-Hunter
July 8, 2012, 05:45 PM
Better yet, I'll sketch them and take a pic

darwins
July 8, 2012, 05:48 PM
All I can tell for the pictures is what is pretty obviously marked on the receiver. It is made by FN. They made a number of Mausers for all kinds of countries as well as for the civilian market. The proofs on the barrel are from the Belgian proof house, which all Belgian manufactured firearms must pass through. There are some small markings I can't make out on the barrel closest to the rear sight that might provide some identifying assistance if I could see them more clearly.

PJ-Hunter
July 8, 2012, 06:10 PM
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I cannot get the scope off. The guy I got it from must have loctited the scope ring bolts in. I actually broke my allen wrench trying to get them off.

hornetguy
July 8, 2012, 06:35 PM
I don't know what it is for sure... Belgian made.

The most positive way to find out is to do a chamber/throat casting, then compare the dimensions with known cartridges.

Do you know what diameter the bore is? If it's larger than .308, it's probably an 8mm, if it's close to .308, it could be the 7.65x53, if it's smaller, it could be either the 7mm or the 6.5mm. I don't think the 6.5 was made anywhere but Sweden, and never in the 98 Mauser, but I could VERY easily be wrong about that.
Being that it is sporterized, it could be nearly any caliber.

Get some Cerrosafe and do a chamber casting.. it's not difficult... actually kind of fun.

Jim Watson
July 8, 2012, 06:59 PM
Suggest you slug the bore, easier than a chamber cast, a groove diameter of .284", .308", .312", or .323" would tell the tale. Unlikely a bare bones sporterizing job like that would be rechambered to a wildcat.

PJ-Hunter
July 8, 2012, 07:19 PM
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That's all of the stampings I can find. Nothing else is around or if it is, not readable.

PJ-Hunter
July 8, 2012, 07:20 PM
I have no idea as to how.

darwins
July 8, 2012, 07:26 PM
So, it is a FN Mauser built for Venezuela. It is very likely chambered for 7mm Mauser, which is very likely what the writing o the side of the barrel means (7.0 mr). The B. Blindee is apparently French for "jacketed bullet".

darwins
July 8, 2012, 07:28 PM
However, the above advice to slug the barrel is still a very good idea.

PJ-Hunter
July 8, 2012, 08:04 PM
Jim, How would one slug the bore? Also, I am by no means even close to an expert but after looking very closely to the chamber and the parts, they all look the same color, wear and metal. Nothing jumps out as being newer.

DnPRK
July 8, 2012, 09:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DByaASz_HNk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8jE2o7ePbo

Scorch
July 8, 2012, 09:44 PM
The pictures you posted in the other thread show an FN 24/30 made for Venezuela. Great rifle, very strong, M98 action. The chambering is most likely 7X57, since it still has the military profile barrel on it, but have it checked.

PJ-Hunter
July 8, 2012, 10:13 PM
Thanks for the help

Jim Watson
July 8, 2012, 10:19 PM
The simple way is to pick a piece of buckshot or a fishing sinker just bigger than the barrel and tap it in the muzzle with a soft mallet. Then push it out with a cleaning rod and measure the outside diameter of the lead where it was driven into the grooves. That is at or near bullet diameter. A 7mm will be about .284".

Doyle
July 9, 2012, 07:17 AM
I cannot get the scope off. The guy I got it from must have loctited the scope ring bolts in. I actually broke my allen wrench trying to get them off.

There is a technique to break the seal on the permanent type of locktite is without having to use heat. Anchor the gun really well in a rest. Put the allen wrench into the screw (I'd see if I could use the other end of that broken wrench) and use a hammer to apply several good solid taps straight down onto the screw. The shock can break the seal on the loctite.

Good luck.

rbernie
July 9, 2012, 07:23 AM
There is a technique to break the seal on the permanent type of locktite is without having to use heat.Using heat isn't hard - use the tip of a soldering iron.

mete
July 9, 2012, 12:14 PM
Most of those Loctite adhesives and epoxies break loose at about 400 F .That won't damage the steel.

FC-Fan
July 9, 2012, 02:26 PM
I think it is a venezuelan Mauser made by FN Herstal Model 24/30 Caliber 7x57.