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DeltaCypher0
July 4, 2012, 08:44 PM
I'm looking to get an American made .22LR bolt action rifle. I need this to be very accurate for small game hunting. I've read that CZs are very good, but I really want to invest in something made in America. How are Marlins? I want a really good rifle, so I'm willing to spend good money on it. I have a Ruger 10/22 and it is not all that great, and even after putting TechSights on it, it still doesn't perform where I'd like it to. I blame user error along with the semi-auto system being inferior to a bolt action's accuracy. I want it to be a wooden stock, bolt action, and have good iron sights on it. I'm looking to purchase a new rifle too, so all the older models are not an option for me. Thanks for any advice you can offer.

dalegribble
July 4, 2012, 08:59 PM
i have a marlin mod 25, .22 cal i bought new in 1969 and it still shoots sub moa at 100 yds. i bought a marlin 25m, 22 mag about 15 years ago that alos shoots sub moa at 100 yds, both guns a re stock. these would be my go to guns.

i also ave a henry 22 lever that impresses the hell out of me but i have never had it to the range.

i have 2 ruger 10/22's that have served me well for 40 years and have always shot minute of rabbit with no problems.

i suppose there are more accurate, more expensive .22 rifles out there but i have never felt the need for one and have never bee disappointed in what i have.

redrick
July 4, 2012, 09:07 PM
Savage MK II , they will even shoot with the CZ's. Just not as pretty.

Made in Canada though.

chadio
July 5, 2012, 01:07 AM
Marlin 925?

psycho nut
July 5, 2012, 01:56 AM
I was going to suggest the savage Mk. II also even though it is canadian.

If you want to go semi since you mentioned the 10/22s, marlin's M60 is a good bet.

bamaranger
July 5, 2012, 02:13 AM
Can't believe nobody advised Ruger 77/22, yet anyhow.

My Savage MkII TR may outshoot it, but the Ruger with a sporting weight barrel and standard trigger (and right ammo) is right there w/ it. The Ruger feeds everytme from its 10 rd rotary box, the Savage is a pain with any mag.

The price makes the Ruger less popular I believe, but its an adult rifle that will last a couple of life times and a tremendous value.

SteelChickenShooter
July 5, 2012, 03:33 AM
If your focus is squirrel, and accuracy, I can say high velocity 22 ammo may not be as accurate as you want. Standard velocity can be very precise with repeatable pinpoint accuracy in many cases. I began using a Marlin 22 bolt action for my silhouette shooting because that rifle was a "one hole wonder" at perhaps 40 and 60 meters. But it fell apart at 77 and 100 meters. If you get a Marlin bolt action 22 and spend some time testing about 20 ammo brands or so at the distance of your interest, I would think you'd come up with a winning combo. The most accurate bolt action I had was a very expensive Kimber, It would shoot 16 different ammo brands with superb results averaging .375" for five shots. I sold that in favor of keeping my Charles Daly Zastava import which shoots fewer ammo brands but with similar results. In fact the Charles Daly Zastava import became the Remington model 5- but I had no use for that one that I tried. My present 22 rifle will make a single hole at two distances, and the farther shots are still well within the hit zone.

Picher
July 5, 2012, 04:40 AM
One of the nicer .22 LR rifles today is a "Weatherby" bolt action. It's actually an Anchutz action in a Weatherby stock, but they're really pretty and shoot very well.

Coopers are the Cadillac of the domestic market, costing around $2,300, but if you're willing to pay for quality, they're fantastic.

Savage MKII deluxe model is a very good rifle and quite accurate. Magazines aren't great, as someone has already mentioned.

Remington still makes a good bolt action, the 547, which is a higher-grade 504 but it's a Custom Shop exclusive and cost/value may be better with Cooper.

FrankenMauser
July 5, 2012, 04:42 AM
Ruger 77/22

Marlin bolt guns are great, but the 77/22 puts Marlins to shame.
(I own both. ;))

I, personally, dislike the Savage rimfire bolt actions. But, most of that is based on ergonomics and appearance. They're decent rifles, but you get just as much with a Marlin.

jmr40
July 5, 2012, 05:56 AM
Ruger has no competition in this category.

rebs
July 5, 2012, 07:32 AM
I have a remington 541 custom sporter that is a tack driver with CCI standard velocity ammo

DeltaCypher0
July 5, 2012, 01:36 PM
Wow, that Ruger 77/22 does look very nice. I've looked a lot at the Marlin 925, are the new "Remlins" really that bad?

Doyle
July 5, 2012, 02:34 PM
I don't know about the new Remingtons but my old 512x will shoot the nuts off a gnat. Those old 500 series rifles were fantastic shooters.

hoytinak
July 5, 2012, 02:41 PM
My vote goes to the Ruger 77/22, loved mine and REALLY regret getting rid of it....I'll replace it one day.

mike7.62
July 5, 2012, 06:37 PM
Cooper without a doubt.

rtpzwms
July 5, 2012, 07:40 PM
i also ave a henry 22 lever that impresses the hell out of me but i have never had it to the range.


?????????!!!!!!!!!!jeeeezzzzzzzzzzz:confused:

Mobuck
July 5, 2012, 08:42 PM
There are several choices if you want to look at older models. Otherwise, the Ruger 77/22 gets my vote(actually 3 votes since that's how many of them I have).

FrankenMauser
July 5, 2012, 09:38 PM
Vote count so far:
5 - Ruger 77/22
3 - Marlin 900 series
2 - Savage Mk II
1 - Weatherby (imported)
1/2 - Cooper
1/2 - Kimber
1/2 - Remington (some models imported)

*Secondary suggestions only included for the half-votes.

Crunchy Frog
July 5, 2012, 09:55 PM
I was tempted to be a wag and suggest that you buy the CZ "American" and pretend it's American made.

In all seriousness, though, the American, while a nice rifle, has no iron sights. When I was in the market for a quality .22 bolt rifle I also wanted iron sights so I am with you on that.

If I were buying an American made .22 bolt rifle I'd take a hard look at the 77/22. The rotary magazine makes the stock a little wide right at the "balance point" but, hey, my CZ has a magazine sticking out of it there so nothing is perfect.

A friend of mine has a 77/22 with a Volquartsen threaded barrel. It's a pretty nice setup with nice lines.

DeltaCypher0
July 6, 2012, 12:27 AM
I'm most likely going to go with the Ruger 77/22. It's a bit pricier than I expected, but I guess I'm buying what I asked for. Anything close to quality in the $500 range? American of course.

DeltaCypher0
July 6, 2012, 12:32 AM
Just realized the 77/22 doesn't have iron sights. This is an issue for me because I would be using it for small game hunting, and will most likely be shooting from close range (<50 yds). I don't want to invest in a scope when it isn't necessary. Can anyone give me more information about the quality of the Marlin 925? I understand the company is now owned by Remington and have read that people say the quality of their products has gone south. I'd like to make the most educated decision about buying my next rifle, for I do not plan on getting another one again because I am dissatisfied.

FrankenMauser
July 6, 2012, 03:45 AM
I had forgotten that there isn't a current 77/22 model that has iron sights. Quite depressing, really. My own 77/22 doesn't have them, either. More than a few times, I've considered having a gunsmith dovetail the barrel for sights.

From what I have heard, the Marlin rimfire bolt guns haven't really been affected by the transition to Remington. That does make sense, based on the simple action design, and (excessive?) use of stamped and cast parts. There isn't much to screw up on them. So, if issues did arise, they would be easier to correct in a timely manner.

The Marlins are nowhere near as refined as the 77/22. You could easily call them "cheap", but it's just a simplistic action design. They're still good rifles. The Marlin magazines are also easier to load, don't have as many sharp corners or edges, and don't look cheap like the Savage magazines.

Rembrandt
July 6, 2012, 09:53 AM
Don't be hung up on "new"......the finest .22 bolt action ever made was the Winchester Model 52. It meets all your requirements other than being out of production. 52's are going no where but up in value in the future.....you'll never regret the quality and have an investment to boot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/52/52C.jpg

oneoldsap
July 6, 2012, 04:29 PM
The Win. Model 75 is an excellent .22 also , and not as pricey as a 52 the mags fit flush too ! There are no new ones though , they've been OOP since the early 70s I think , maybe longer .

Baba Louie
July 6, 2012, 06:27 PM
What Rembrandt said. Winchester 52...

OR, maybe...

A U.S. Springfield Armory M2 Model of 1922 perhaps.

Picher
July 7, 2012, 07:47 AM
I have a Winchester 69A that is a fantastic rifle. The action is the same as the 75, but it's got a lighter barrel and stock. Mine has a receiver sight and is grooved for scope, but I prefer the irons for this fine shooting/handling rifle.

Mine cost me $225 and it's about the best value I've had in a used .22LR.

SteelChickenShooter
July 7, 2012, 01:58 PM
We have had many 22 rifle threads. I realize now I did not mean to imply that the low cost Marlin in my earlier post was among "the best". I was only saying that, with CCI standard ammo, the one I had was a one hole wonder at 40 and 60 yards. Not that it was "the best" rifle- only that it was capable of being very accurate and repeatable which is good enough for many close range small game or rodent shooters. Maybe you could call it one of the "best values" based on cost and accuracy for many young rabbit hunters. Certainly, without a doubt, a decent "starter rifle" for many kids growing up to hunt with their Dad's and venturing out alone after they get a few season's on them.

whippoorwill
July 7, 2012, 03:34 PM
Cooper

Picher
July 7, 2012, 05:11 PM
Regardless of accuracy, the Ruger 77-22 is a nice rifle. It's not a super-accurate one, however.

The two-piece bolt and non-match chamber work against it. The sub-minute 77-22 has not been built, except maybe by accident.

FrankenMauser
July 8, 2012, 02:18 AM
Regardless of accuracy, the Ruger 77-22 is a nice rifle. It's not a super-accurate one, however.

The two-piece bolt and non-match chamber work against it. The sub-minute 77-22 has not been built, except maybe by accident.

Did you really think about that, before you typed it? "Two-piece bolt" and "non-match chamber" are terms that apply to the great majority of the bolt action .22 LR rifles on the market - not just the 77/22.
Two-piece bolts and/or "non-match chambers" are found in most or all models from Marlin, Savage, Winchester, CZ, Remington, and Kimber. (And I'm sure I missed a few manufacturers.)

...Just the same old, unsupported, regurgitated, anti-Ruger internet crap. :rolleyes:

johnbt
July 8, 2012, 07:09 AM
Does Ruger still make them with the raised wood pressure pad under the barrel? If they do, a lot of folks used to improve their accuracy by removing it and free floating the barrel.

John

johnwilliamson062
July 8, 2012, 08:49 PM
Buds lists the Ruger stainless at $606 My Marlin target stainless was about 1/2 that AFTER I added a $75 rear sight to it.
HOw much is it going to cost to have a smith cut a dovetail?
I've not been impressed with the accuracy of the ruger rifles I have handled. It is sufficient for most hunting, but not target. Everywhere else they are great.

Scout
July 8, 2012, 09:02 PM
I love the Savage Mk II. I like economical, sturdy and accurate rifles. This one fits the bill.

jager.30-06
July 8, 2012, 09:05 PM
winchester model 67,
mines about ten years older than my grandmother, sexy,accurate, classy
and you could probably pick up 2 for the price of a new .22 these days.

comn-cents
July 9, 2012, 08:49 AM
Kimber mdl 82 if you can find one.

Fargazer
July 10, 2012, 08:00 AM
Remington 510 is my choice; I have two and they will do the job if the shooter does their job.

Norrick
July 10, 2012, 07:06 PM
food for thought the new ruger 77/22's have barrels that are threaded into the receivers. probably benefit from free floating more than previous v-block models, but at the same time, you don't get access to all the after-market barrels.

bn12gg
July 10, 2012, 07:36 PM
Rembrandt that 52 is a work of art. Good for you! .02 David :)

Nemsis
July 13, 2012, 02:24 PM
Get a Marlin XT-22 you'll love it, adjustable trigger,10 rd mags, and very accurate. Plus you won't cry when you scratch it while out hunting.

1944m1garand
October 9, 2012, 02:57 AM
If you can get a Winchester 52 sporter, do it. Best .22 I own. They are pricey, but worth every penny.

Bart B.
October 9, 2012, 11:41 AM
Winchester 52's are oft times cited as the finest ones ever made. But their accuracy's been bettered by several; Anschutz, Walther, Hammerli among others.

Joe Chicago
October 10, 2012, 05:35 PM
Another vote for the Marlin/Glenfield 25. It may not be the absolute best, but certainly is one of the best for the money and will give far more expensive rifles a run for their money.

mr.t7024
October 10, 2012, 07:35 PM
All the US rifles are excellent .If you can check them all out,then make your decision.My favorite bolt that I use is a Winchester 69Aand then the Remington 510 single shot Match Master.I also have a Ruger 77-22 that I am not very fond of.:)Cliff

lefteye
October 10, 2012, 08:12 PM
Model 52 is the best I've every touched (but never owned one.) :(

wingman
October 10, 2012, 09:42 PM
If we are talking accuracy,Cooper, very expensive, something i could not afford, so I went with CZ(not American made)but fantastic accuracy out of the box.

Squirrel hunting accuracy bolt (lower cost) Marlin,my 981T is fun, shoots shorts long and long rifle.

Picher
October 11, 2012, 06:18 AM
Did you really think about that, before you typed it? "Two-piece bolt" and "non-match chamber" are terms that apply to the great majority of the bolt action .22 LR rifles on the market - not just the 77/22.
Two-piece bolts and/or "non-match chambers" are found in most or all models from Marlin, Savage, Winchester, CZ, Remington, and Kimber. (And I'm sure I missed a few manufacturers.)

...Just the same old, unsupported, regurgitated, anti-Ruger internet crap.

I speak from long experience with rimfires and a great many accurizing projects, including several that have been posted on a well-known rimfire board for several years and recording more than 20,000 hits. My accurizing jobs have turned in remarkable accuracy, including my own 10-22 that shot an average of 10 consecutive 5-shot groups at 50 yards that averaged 0.37".

That said, I've also worked at trying to get the 77/22 to shoot "very" well and with factory barrels. It's been quite disappointing. Though made of high-quality materials, the two-piece bolt is not made to precision levels and doesn't fit in the action particularly tightly. I've heard of only one 77/22 that was extensively modified that shot reasonably well in rimfire benchrest competition, but didn't win any matches, as I remember.

Compare that to the Remington 540-series rifles that, modified, were used extensively as Sporter-category rifles that won many matches before advent of the custom rimfire action rifles that typically result in winners, but cost upwards of $3,000, some closer to $10,000.

That said, the 77/22 is a nice rifle. If a person wants a reliable rifle that shoots 1"-1 1/2" groups with non-match ammo at 50 yards...go for it! I just expect more out of my bolt-action rifles, especially those that cost what the Ruger does. I also expect that if I do some basic accurizing work on one, that it should group under 3/4" at 50 yards with non-match ammo, but ammo selected, by trial of various brands/types.

longfellow
October 11, 2012, 07:38 AM
My Winchester 69A is my only rimfire rifle. It is used for squirrel. It is so old, it doesn't have a serial number and I did have to spend twenty bucks to have it tapped for a scope. Weaver still makes the special bases that fit on the receiver and barrel of this model. It shoots half inch groups at fifty yards with a 1-3x hunding scope (perfect power range for squirrel hunting situations I think) admittedly though a bit of stoning of the trigger components was necessary to get her to sing. Today's Savage has the same extraction, ejection, lock-up and an awesome trigger so if you're set on a new rifle, I'd go there. I don't know if the barrel is better but I heare of amazing groups being shot with them. I'd think twice about those light, synthetic stocks for a squirrel rifle that is already very light. Real world squirrel hunting might prove this out for you as it did for me.
Enjoy.
Be safe.

Rembrandt
October 11, 2012, 06:54 PM
If you can get a Winchester 52 sporter, do it. Best .22 I own. They are pricey, but worth every penny.

Couldn't agree more.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/Img_3375.jpg

Rainbow Demon
October 11, 2012, 09:24 PM
One of the best .22 rifles I've handled and fired is a "Revelation" I repaired for a friend who'd found it at a yard sale.
The rifle had been found leaning against a tree after being forgotten or lost years before.
The scope was full of water and there was moss inside the bore and in the action, with deep pitting and much of the upper receiver deeply rusted away.

Suprisingly despite the moss and a water line in the bore, the bore cleaned up just fine. The waxy lube of lead bullets had protected the bore.

This rifle appeared to be a redesign of an autoloader.
The bolt body is non rotating, and the bolt handle is part of a rotating sleeve. The bolt remains enclosed by the receiver in operation.

Rather than a striker the action has a hammer such as you'd find with a semi auto. This allows a light crisp positive trigger pull.

Once I dried out and repaired the wood, refinished the exterior, then found a replacement rear sight and mounted a new scope on it, the rifle proved to be remarkably accurate.

IIRC "Revelation" was a store brand of the "Western Auto" chain stores.
I think this rifle may have been made by Mossberg.

Ignition Override
October 12, 2012, 11:36 PM
A Canadian rifle might be ok with me. And we have lots of their Enfields.

Canada bought lots of US-made F-101, F-104, F-18 Hornets, C-130s, among many other mil. and civilian aircraft types, and are offering us the Trans-Canadian oil pipeline. (however...).
It is a very noble act that we try to buy US products.

JohnnyCash1979
October 13, 2012, 11:59 PM
Try a 580 Remington, my Uncle has 1 and its a tack driver. Its a single shot though. The 581 has a clip and the 582 has a tube I think. My Uncle also has a Winchester Model 52 and that 580 shoots just as good.

Picher
October 14, 2012, 08:44 AM
I have a Rem 581 with a Lilja barrel and thumbhole stock that shoots 3/10" groups at 50 yards with match ammo. It helps that the scope goes to 32x and the trigger is just under 16 oz. It's converted to single-shot at this point, but I have the materials to get it back to operate with a magazine.

It doesn't get much use these days, so I may sell it at some point.

mdd
October 17, 2012, 12:04 PM
Lots of older model 77/22 rugers came with iron sights. I thoroughly enjoy my 77/22 and would not trade it for any other 22 bolt gun. I have multiple ruger centerfire rifles and the 77/22 is the perfect practice gun for me. All of the ergonomics are as close to my centerfire rifles as i could ever get.

natman
October 20, 2012, 03:07 AM
Don't be hung up on "new"......the finest .22 bolt action ever made was the Winchester Model 52. It meets all your requirements other than being out of production.

I agree about the quality of the 52, but the OP specifically said he wanted a rifle for small game hunting.

I love my 52, but it's really heavy and I'm not going to lug it around in the woods. The original 52 sporters and the Springfield 1922s are also fine guns, but they are collector's items now and I'm not going to drag one through the woods hunting either. The repo 52 sporters would be an excellent choice, but they were made in Japan.

To the OP: This scope fad isn't going away anytime soon. Try one, you'll like it. Get a Ruger or a Cooper if you can afford it or a Kimber if you don't mind buying used and put a good scope on it.

22-rimfire
October 20, 2012, 12:55 PM
(bolding added) I'm looking to get an American made .22LR bolt action rifle. I need this to be very accurate for small game hunting. I've read that CZs are very good, but I really want to invest in something made in America. How are Marlins? I want a really good rifle, so I'm willing to spend good money on it. I have a Ruger 10/22 and it is not all that great, and even after putting TechSights on it, it still doesn't perform where I'd like it to. I blame user error along with the semi-auto system being inferior to a bolt action's accuracy. I want it to be a wooden stock, bolt action, and have good iron sights on it. I'm looking to purchase a new rifle too, so all the older models are not an option for me. Thanks for any advice you can offer.

American made.... for normal people that means Remington, Savage, Marlin, Ruger, and I guess Cooper and Kimber if you are willing to spend those kind of bucks.

People are finding the newer Marlin's trigger better and the 22's well made. I would certainly look at the XT line. http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/xt/XT22.asp

Savage Mark II would be my primary recommendation but it is technically made in Canada. US/Canada... pretty much same thing to me as compared to German, Chinese, Japanese, or Czech made.

I don't have any experience with the Ruger 77/22. I doubt I will buy one since they are expensive and the stock just looks like a walnut 10/22 stock fashioned for a bolt action rifle. (I have a Ruger 10/22 Deluxe.) I hear mostly good things about them but I would rather spend more for a Remington 547 (or find an as new Remington 541-S or 541-T). They are pretty easy to find.

If you are firm on the USA manufacture and no budget was stated but still keeping it "reasonable"... my suggestion is to find an as-new Remington 541-S or 541-T. They are fine rifles with an excellent reputation for accuracy and quality. They would make a great small game gun. I use mine for that.

If money is a big issue, I would look at Marlin. I would not get a Remington 504 in 22LR even if you find one new in the box. Too many were duds. I have a Marlin 983 (22 WMR) and it is a fine rifle but the trigger could stand some work. The XT series have adjustable triggers.

I love the Remington 547, but at $1000 it is expensive. But you can expect them to shoot pretty well.

Kimbers... yeah, always wanted one when the 22's were still made.

Cooper... would love to own one, but the cost is an issue for me.

Rembrandt
October 20, 2012, 06:42 PM
...I agree about the quality of the 52, but the OP specifically said he wanted a rifle for small game hunting.

I love my 52, but it's really heavy and I'm not going to lug it around in the woods. The original 52 sporters and the Springfield 1922s are also fine guns, but they are collector's items now and I'm not going to drag one through the woods hunting either. The repo 52 sporters would be an excellent choice, but they were made in Japan.

It's true that the majority of 52's had heavy target barrels, guess I was thinking more along the lines of the Sporters. Agreed they are becoming highly collectible....but there's nothing quite like popping some squirrels with the ol' peep sights. Old thoroughbreds like these shouldn't be couped up in metal box.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/Img_3390.jpg

natman
October 21, 2012, 02:33 PM
It's true that the majority of 52's had heavy target barrels, guess I was thinking more along the lines of the Sporters. Agreed they are becoming highly collectible....but there's nothing quite like popping some squirrels with the ol' peep sights. Old thoroughbreds like these shouldn't be couped up in metal box.

Definitely made in the USA and certainly meets any quality requirement, but somehow I don't think a rifle that's very rare, has been out of production for over half a century and costs in the mid four figures is exactly what the OP had in mind. ;)

lefteye
October 21, 2012, 08:48 PM
costs in the mid four figures

Really? $5,000, more or less, for a Model 52 .22LR?

natman
October 24, 2012, 02:12 PM
Really? $5,000, more or less, for a Model 52 .22LR?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=299364656

There are Model 52s, then there are Model 52 Sporters. Target models are fairly common. Sporters are rare and highly sought after collector's items which command premium prices.

aarondhgraham
October 24, 2012, 02:27 PM
It's only a single-shot,,,
But my Henry Acu-Bolt (http://henryrepeating.com/rifle-acubolt.cfm) is freaky accurate.

I'm older than dirt with bad eyes,,,
But a Lady at my rifle-pistol club once put,,,
Six rounds of Federal in a dime sized circle at 50 yards.

I purchased mine 3 years ago,,,
Then it came with a cantilever mount and a cheap 4X scope,,,
The scope was adequate but it was nothing to write home to Momma about.

Now I believe it only includes the mount,,,
But the stock Williams Fire Sights are very nice.

Also like Rainbow Demon said,,,
Some of the older Mossberg bolt-actions were surprisingly accurate.

I have a Mossberg 340-KC that I inherited from a friend,,,
http://aarondgraham.com/pics/340-KC_1.jpg
With the long barrel and peep sights it's as accurate as my CZ-452 Trainer.

The Standard Catalog of Firearms values it at only $100 in excellent condition,,,
If you ever stumble across a clean specimen like mine for that price,,,
Snag it up because it will outshoot a lot of modern made guns.

Just some different options for you to peruse.

Aarond

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Shennandoah Bill
November 4, 2012, 11:08 AM
Catching up with this thread very late, but I'll add a couple of comments re American .22's. First is the Ruger 77/22 as a possible selection. I have one in .22WRM, (not a cartridge know for accuracy), the VBZ version with the heavy 24" barrel. I bought it for varmint shooting & have had a trigger job, (2 lbs) & action bedding job. At 50 yards, it shoots .200-.230" five round groups with Federal Champion 40 gr FMJ bullets, sub 1" groups are standard @ 100 yds with the same ammo. No other ammo will match it in this rifle. I suspect the same rifle in .22 LR S/B even more accurate.
I also noted a comment on a Henry lever, I also have one, it mounts a little 2.5X Tasco & with CCI Maxi-mag ammo it shoots 1" groups @ 50 yards, a real suprize ! Have to try it with some match ammo & see what it is really capible of.
Currently working on a CZ 455 Varmint with a Nikon 2X7 power P22 scope. I've only run 250 rounds thru it so far but it's shooting 1/4" five round groups at 50 yards with Wolf MT ammo. So far I've only tweaked the factory trigger adjustment & replaced the factory lube on the trigger sear with TS-70 moly lube for a nice crisp 2 1/8 lb trigger. Sorry it's not American made, but the CZ's do shoot !

ratshooter
November 5, 2012, 05:52 PM
The two-piece bolt and non-match chamber work against it. The sub-minute 77-22 has not been built, except maybe by accident.

I have a 77/22 made in 1984 IIRC and it has open sights on it. I paid $400.05 for it with all the shipping from Gunbroker. That included a straight tube Bushnell scope that I left on it. I tried a 2x7 but like the old straight tube better.

My favorite target is a sheet of paper that has a bunch of 1" squares on it. Using the cheap federal bulk ammo from WM I shoot 10 shot groups that will stay inside those 1" squares. Time after time until the barrel gets fouled. Brush it out and you are back in business. I haven't tried any other ammo. I never saw the point. So I guess i bought the only accidental 77/22 that Ruger built that will shoot. And its box stock too.

I am sure it was a fluke but a 30 yard 5 shot group I fired had 4 rounds in a very slightly elongated hole with one pulled shot less than a quarter inch out.

Another suggestion would be a Marlin 981T. I have one I paid $173.00 new, including tax for it and its almost as accurate as the 77/22 I have. Plus with the tube mag it will feed shorts, longs and long rifle rounds. The stock is synthetic so you don't have to worry about banging it up hunting with it.

Stevie-Ray
November 5, 2012, 08:25 PM
My only bolt .22 is one that I've had for over 44 years. It's been shooting sub-minute groups ever since I started going for groups, usually at a leisurely pace spending practically nothing. Very relaxing. It's a Stevens Model 34, so I would still look to Savage for accuracy, though I'd really like to have that "adult-sized" Ruger 77/22 also. Maybe some day.

johnwilliamson062
November 6, 2012, 05:56 PM
I am removing my support for the marlin 981T(s) series of rifles. My receiver is wearing where the bolt handle rubs if forward pressure is not applied when turning the bolt. I now find it quite difficult to operate the bolt with my thumb and index finger so I have to break position in between shots.
I'm not exactly sure what to make of this. I have sent thousands of rounds down range with the thing, BUT I expected it to hold up better. I am not sure if the problem is something I can fix either. Filing material away to make the surface flat might cause major problems.

Should still work well as a youth training rifle though.

cw308
November 8, 2012, 04:01 PM
I feel the same as you, but when I looked at a used 452 Varmint 22lr. I caved in and bought the CZ. I look at it that I gave the money to the owner of the gun shop and the first owner, money went over seas. The CZ 452 Varmint is a great rifle, tight bore very accurate. why don't we make rifles like that. Built like a high powered rifle, and there is no problem with dry firing.the firing pin does not ding the chamber like other 22's.

Shennandoah Bill
November 9, 2012, 04:35 PM
RatShooter made the observation that his Ruger 22/77 shoots until it gets fouled, but comes right back after cleaning. My 22/77 in .22WRM is the exact opposite. If I give the barrel a good cleaning, the first five round group @ 50 yds will shoot 1 1/2", next 1 1/4", etc. Usually takes about 6 five round groups until it tightens up & starts putting five rounds into the 1/4" range. I've gotten to the point with it that I just run a Hoppes bore snake with a bit of Remington bore cleaner on it down the barrel 2 or 3 times after a shooting session & let it go at that.
By the way, I'd mentioned that my Henry Lever had shot some 1" groups @ 50 yds with CCI Mini-Mags so I decided to try some better ammo in it. Well, results were interesting, to say the least. CCI Green Tag put 3 rounds in a 4" group, & 2 rounds completely missed the paper, (5X7 paper sheet). CCI Standard Vel produced a 3 1/2" group & Wolf MT got me a 2" group, go figure ! The lesson being, one can take an educated guess but you can never be 100 % sure what ammo any particular .22 LR firearm is going to like, just gotta keep trying until you stumble onto it.
I'm in that process right now with my CZ 455 Varmint, & so far it seems to like Federal Gold Match, closely followed by Wolf MT but I've still got about 12 different boxes to try. It really doesn't like anything from Eley or Remington, that's for sure.

alex0535
November 9, 2012, 06:29 PM
I own a Marlin 917v, it is chambered in .17 HMR which is basically a .22 WMR necked down to a .17 caliber. I bought it for a little bit less than $250. It was very accurate in and of itself, but was made more accurate after replacing the trigger return spring with a much lighter one.

I am a big fan of .17 HMR. I think it preforms in a superior manner to .22 rimfire. It can be destructive against small game with v-max bullets, but hollow point and fmj rounds make clean holes through them.

That being said I am sure Marlin makes some .22LR bolt actions that you will be very happy with if you decide on them.