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Emuricah513
June 29, 2012, 12:14 PM
Hello TFL Members,

So I've been contemplating picking up some specialty ammo for my shotgun, a Benelli SuperNova, and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with it. I was most interested in the Bolo rounds which are 2 balls connected by steel wire and the Dragon's Breath rounds. Do I need a slug barrel for the Bolo round and whats the deal with the dragons breath? Are there any safety concerns for myself or my shotgun? Also there are some detonator rounds that basically have a hollowed out slug and which you can fill with homemade explosives (I would use store bought, I can't exactly experiment with explosives in a military dormitory :D). I'm just kind of curious what experience y'all have. Thanks in advance everyone.

Dave McC
June 29, 2012, 01:54 PM
Waste of money and time. And it may screw up your barrel.

Just what are you wanting to do that standard ammo will not suffice?

jmortimer
June 29, 2012, 03:16 PM
Dixie Tri-Ball top of the line for destruction:
www.dixieslugs.com

oneounceload
June 29, 2012, 05:33 PM
Seems you appear to mostly play video games in a fantasy world as opposed to shooting in the real world

When you decide to come back to the real world, get back to us and we can help you

zippy13
June 29, 2012, 08:24 PM
Only if you're having problems with dragons.

Old Grump
June 30, 2012, 11:05 AM
You do NOT want a slug barrel for any of those rounds. All of them are for up close and personal and Dragons breath is fine for 4th of July shooting on the beach over water. They are pricey and of limited use and the dragons breath has resulted in more than one call to the fire dept. OOOOPS.

If I had a Super Nova I would seriously hurt anybody who tired to put one of those rounds in my gun. In fact I would hurt you if you tried any of my guns except for one old single shot that has been around the family since the early 1900's.

It's your money but I would get a cheap single shot break action gun for that kind of silliness.

Emuricah513
July 11, 2012, 08:57 AM
I appreciate the input from everyone that had anything useful to say as for

Oneounceload:

Seems you appear to mostly play video games in a fantasy world as opposed to shooting in the real world

When you decide to come back to the real world, get back to us and we can help you

Says the guy who wants to act tough over the internet..Why don't you take yourself over to youtube with the rest of immature, teenie boppers who just want to talk trash with people they've never met, you'll fit right in. It was a simple question i asked for input on, of course I don't plan to use the rounds every day. I train for self defense and hunting as well but looking something creative and different isn't necessarily a bad thing is it? To everyone else who had anything useful to say thank you for your time.

oneounceload
July 11, 2012, 09:03 AM
It would seem that you are acting as the immature teeneybopper, from your initial post to this one....

I'll leave the boob tube videos to you sir.

Have a nice day

dieselbeef
July 11, 2012, 09:10 AM
over 8k posts vs 45 posts.....rock on kids;)

Wahoo95
July 11, 2012, 09:17 AM
Bolo rounds....seriously?? I hear they are the preferred load most if the local mall cops prefer

I really can spell, however Tapatalk keeps screwing everything up!

TheKlawMan
July 11, 2012, 09:41 AM
over 8k posts vs 45 posts.....rock on kids

I don't know about the one, but the guy with the 8kk posts, oneounceload, has quite a bit of knowledge and experience to share.

oneounceload
July 11, 2012, 09:54 AM
I really can spell, however Tapatalk keeps screwing everything up!

Try an I phone or Ipad..........:D

zippy13
July 11, 2012, 10:06 AM
Try an I phone or Ipad..........:D

I have enough problems with a full size keyboard. :)

azsixshooter
July 11, 2012, 10:49 AM
I'm with the others here as far as being careful shooting that stuff out of your nice Benelli. You don't want to take a risk messing that up for something that is going to most likely disappoint you anyway.

I've never fired any of that stuff through my gun, but I've seen some of the videos of other people doing it on youtube and it doesn't look like the results are worth the excessive prices they charge for that stuff.

For the price you'd pay for some of that stuff you could get a bunch of different kinds of buckshot or slugs and do some patterning or shooting for groups and learn some more about your barrel and what it shoots best. If nothing else, it's additional real-world training that will benefit you more and probably be a better way to utilize your resources.

Of course, if you watch the videos online and you absolutely want to test out some of that specialty ammo then I'd suggest, as others have, buying a low-cost single shot break-open to use as a dedicated "special purpose" shotgun.

I don't agree with the name-calling and childishness that some have demonstrated here. Often in these forums a high post count seems like a license to do exactly what moderators ban or edit most new users for. Just asking about specialty ammo doesn't make you a mall ninja or constitute trolling or anything like that.

In fact, some of that specialty ammo (like the "Pitbull" buck-n-ball loads or the "Rhodesian Jungle Load" of large and small pellets) have their roots in real military history. I think most people get ornery about discussing this stuff because they believe (and maybe correctly so) that those rounds have been proven less-effective in real-life combat situations.

For instance, the US Military supposedly started out using those Flechette loads in Viet Nam, but then found that the little darts often hit the target sideways because the tiny fins didn't stabilize them correctly. Since they were ineffective the military switched to 00 Buck and that turned out to be brutally effective.

So my thinking is just that some people are of the opinion that it's stupid to go "backwards" and waste time messing around with technology that has been proven ineffective or less-effective than current favorites and that could have the potential to damage your gear.

I agree that it is cool that you can actually get so many different types of ammo for the 12 Gauge shotgun and that's one of the things that makes the shotgun my favorite weapon of all-time. I used to want to get my dad a Remington 870 Marine model to stow in his boat locked up with a box of flares and buckshot. I thought that would be a neat way to utilize the shotgun. I think I've even seen rounds that launch some kind of line across to other boats in storms, but those might not actually be for 12 gauges.

Another neat use of the shotgun is for shooting "bird bombs" to scare bears away or to clear birds off of airport runways.

My only point in all that is just that if you can really come up with a scenario where you can justify using some kind of specialty ammo then by all means try it out (being careful to test in a low-cost gun first if possible). It's great for creative users to have access to so many options, I just think some people take offense to all the marketing "HYPE" surrounding these types of loads and that is probably where some of the hostility is coming from.

Take care, be safe, train hard and have fun!

oneounceload
July 11, 2012, 11:39 AM
I don't agree with the name-calling and childishness that some have demonstrated here. Often in these forums a high post count seems like a license to do exactly what moderators ban or edit most new users for. Just asking about specialty ammo doesn't make you a mall ninja or constitute trolling or anything like that.

Your snarky insults aside, I never called him a mall ninja or a troll
Be that as it may -when folks ask about things that are a waste of money, potentially dangerous, or just plain silly, it typically can be found from the group of people I mentioned. We would like them to focus on reality and not fantasy when it comes to firearms, as there is no "reset" button when something goes awry. Sorry if that upsets your view of the world, or this forum.

BTW, post counts have nothing to do with anything - they could eliminate them and that would be just fine with me

azsixshooter
July 11, 2012, 11:45 AM
I'll choose to be the bigger man here and let this go. Get back on topic or have a mod close the thread. I've contributed everything I meant to convey to the OP.

oneounceload
July 11, 2012, 12:33 PM
So have I - done for me too

Dave McC
July 11, 2012, 02:11 PM
Closed, because of the personal attacks.


SHEESH!!....