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Nick9130White
June 29, 2012, 02:09 AM
There's a Remington 770 at my big 5, an it comes with a scope (can't be the greatest cause I believe the combo is pretty cheap) and I was wondering what you guys think about it. Accuracy wise, i am looking for a accurate, inexpensive bolt gun. I don't mind if the action isnt smooth or anything like that. I just want a bolt gun, pretty accurate and it can be accurate to about 300 yards. I don't recall what caliber it was, but what would be the best caliber for accuracy out of it?

gaseousclay
June 29, 2012, 07:07 AM
ugh. the 770 has been talked abouto so many times here. just do a search. basically, the 770 is considered to be a heap of junk. save your money and get something better at a used gun shop

jmr40
June 29, 2012, 08:25 AM
They are disposable rifles. From all accounts they are accurate and seem to function well enough. They are not made for long term durability and when something breaks you just throw them away because it will cost more to get them repaired than they are worth.

They have almost zero resale value. None of the local gunshops or even pawnshops will give you dime for one because they cannnot sell them used. Not a good choice if you want something cheap now with an eye toward trading up at a later time.

If you want the cheapest gun available, understand their shortcomings and don't plan on shooting a lot they are an option. I've heard some are pretty accurate.

For the extra cost of a couple of boxes of ammo there are other guns only slightly more expensive that are better choices. They may not come with a scope, but you'd have to replace the one on the 770 anyway.

Nick9130White
June 29, 2012, 11:03 AM
Good enough for me, thank you.

Buzzcook
June 29, 2012, 01:17 PM
Look in the used gun market.

Almost any centerfire cartridge will shoot to 300yds. Almost any modern rifle will be accurate at that distance.

PetahW
June 29, 2012, 05:05 PM
If you want a NEW, accurate & reliable boltgun, there are 3-5 "economy" rifles ( around $300) out there that should fit your needs admirably.

I would suggest checking them out - some are even offered with an inexpensive, but usable, scope as a package deal.

Marlin makes both a long & short action XS-7 & XL-7

Mossberg makes both the 4x4 and the 100 ATR

Savage makes the Stevens 200

Ruger makes the American

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Nick9130White
June 29, 2012, 08:33 PM
Ill check those out thank you.

I was also looking at a Savage 11/111 in 7mm, how is that one? Comes with a scope and all that. It felt good, and the action was pretty smooth.

FrankenMauser
June 29, 2012, 10:00 PM
Marlin XL7 and XS7 rifles aren't much more expensive, and are a far better rifle. In my opinion, the X7s surpass the Savage and Stevens entry-level rifles, the Ruger American, the Mossberg 4x4, and pretty much anything else in that class of rifles.

The X7s were engineered to be great rifles with low manufacturing costs, to be sold at an affordable price point.

The competitors' rifles, however, were existing designs that had corners cut to save money. We all know what happens when people cut corners.... :rolleyes:

Nick9130White
June 29, 2012, 10:33 PM
I'm really liking the marlin XL7, I'm
Looking for a pretty damn accurate round that CAN reach out a descent distance and hit what I'm aimin at. What caliber would be good for that?

gun nut
June 29, 2012, 10:34 PM
I have several savage 10/110 rifles and for the money am very happy with them. Those savage 10/110 rifles are surprisingly accurate. I have not shot or been around the marlin bolt action rifle but have a couple marlin lever rifles and they are great. 270, 308, 30-06, 7 mag

gun nut
June 29, 2012, 10:38 PM
What are you wanting to hit at that range and how much recoil do you want?

Nick9130White
June 29, 2012, 10:57 PM
Targets to be honest.
And recoil isn't a problem

FrankenMauser
June 30, 2012, 04:59 AM
Any of the X7 chamberings will do what you need, with room to spare.
XL7: .25-06, .270 Win, .30-06
XS7: .243 Win, 7mm-08, .308 Win

If you don't reload, it will be easiest to find good factory ammo (such as Federal Gold Metal Match) for .308 Win and .30-06 Win.

The runner-up would be .243 Win. It falls into the middle ground between 'match' cartridge and hunting cartridge (and varmint cartridge). You can find a little of everything for .243.

The .25-06, .270 Win, and 7mm-08 aren't generally considered to be "match" cartridges, just hunting cartridges; so high quality target ammunition is pretty rare (and if you do find it, it costs more than you can afford).

gun nut
June 30, 2012, 05:17 AM
Chuck Hawks has several nice tables showing recoil, trajectory, and ballistics. Pick a caliber that sounds good and check ammo availability. So many calibers to choose from! Like 22-250 & 220 swift they are fairly similar looking at the numbers but 22-250 is much more plentiful.

gun nut
June 30, 2012, 06:54 AM
For just paper or varmits 223 would be cheapest easiest to find ammo. 22-250 would be a little flatter and still readily available. 243 would also be excellent and easy to find. There are bigger more powerful rounds but for paper I wouldn't want the heavier recoil and probably more expensive ammo. Something cheap that you can stand to shoot alot!

PetahW
June 30, 2012, 09:55 AM
I'm really liking the marlin XL7, I'm
Looking for a pretty damn accurate round that CAN reach out a descent distance and hit what I'm aimin at. What caliber would be good for that?


While the .30-06 is never a mistake, the .308 has made it's bones as a long-range accuracy round - and in the Marlin XS-7 presented in a lighter short-action, a plus.

If you were talking about hunting, say Pronghorn, then I'd be sorely tempted by a .270.

IMHO, the Marlin's the sleeper of the bunch, with the newly-introduced Ruger American yet to prove itself.


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Nick9130White
June 30, 2012, 12:49 PM
I can't do .223 in a bolt gun, I don't know why but I just can't do that. Haha

But I'm goin with .308, it can share
Ammo with my Saiga 308.

Thank you for your help

browninghunter86
June 30, 2012, 06:35 PM
cheap rifle but mine shoots well. I hate the bolt on it. It is very rough when pulling bolt back and it may or may not pull the round out after you fire. Mine has a problem of the bolt jamming and not extracting the round. Has happened numerous times and a couple while in the field hunting(NOT GOOD!!!!)

Now accuracy wise....mine will shoot .5 or less groups @ 100 yards all day with Remington Cor-Lokt bullets in 130gr. This is in a 270 caliber

FrankenMauser
July 1, 2012, 03:34 AM
cheap rifle but mine shoots well. I hate the bolt on it. It is very rough when pulling bolt back and it may or may not pull the round out after you fire. Mine has a problem of the bolt jamming and not extracting the round. Has happened numerous times and a couple while in the field hunting(NOT GOOD!!!!)

Now accuracy wise....mine will shoot .5 or less groups @ 100 yards all day with Remington Cor-Lokt bullets in 130gr. This is in a 270 caliber

It sounds like you need to send that rifle back to Marlin, for repairs. Why keep dealing with the issues, if they'll take care of it for free? :rolleyes:

browninghunter86
July 3, 2012, 09:30 AM
frankenmouser: called Remington several times after I first got the rifle(4 yrs ago) and explained problem they said it was the magazine?????? and sent me a new one. Problem of course was not resolved with that solution. Called again and they told me I needed to clean the bolt very well and lube it. Which I did and of course no fix to the issue. Then conveniently the 1 yr warranty had expired and they told me nothing they could do about it!!!!!! So I am stuck with the problem and now after alot of research and talking to people it appears it is a common issue with that rifle

FrankenMauser
July 3, 2012, 05:28 PM
browninghunter86, are you referring to Marlin X7 or Remington 770?

Marlin X7s are not known for having stiff bolts or bolts that jam. There was a production run that did receive bad extractors, that broke easily, but the problem should be obvious.
(I'm assuming your extractor is fine, since you spent a year trying to get the rifle fixed. And, it was a known issue. Remlin handed the parts out like candy at a parade, when there was even the slightest suspicion that an extractor could be the problem.)

If it IS a Marlin X7, your best bet for resolution (without paying a gunsmith), is to head over to the Marlin Owners Forum (http://www.marlinowners.com/). Start a thread about your issues in the X7 forum (http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/marlin-xl7-xs7-boltaction-centerfire-rifles/), and the members there should be able to help you troubleshoot the problem, better than Remlin ever did.

browninghunter86
July 3, 2012, 09:29 PM
it is a rem 770

FrankenMauser
July 4, 2012, 05:03 AM
Thanks for clearing that up.

The Remington 770s ARE known for having stiff bolts and extraction problems. Any damage to the nylon action insert (bolt guides) just compounds the problem and makes things much worse.

I'm sorry, but I don't really have any advice for you. About all I can offer is... if you aren't happy with it, sell it. Sometimes, taking a loss on the rifle but retaining your sanity, is more important than going crazy by trying to fix a lost cause.

riggins_83
July 4, 2012, 11:31 PM
There are many good options for around the same price as the 770 (such as the Savage Edge bundles). The 770 is without a doubt the worst rifle I've ever worked on (and working on a gun store I deal with a lot). Horrible trigger, gritty action.

browninghunter86
July 6, 2012, 08:52 AM
Frankenmouser: I contimplated that idea but just couldn't do it. My father bought me that gun as my first gun a few years ago( I started hunting in college but oh well) so just can't make myself sell it

Working on my Savage 10 shooting skills now and getting there

browninghunter86
July 19, 2012, 11:04 AM
Shoots 1/2 MOA @200 yards with factory ammo and off a bipod. Almost bug holes at 100 yards.

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