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rickyrick
June 13, 2012, 08:36 AM
I suspect a canned hunt....

I'm not endorsing this but you gotta see this video. I think they released at the right time. I didn't read any of the post however.


http://s842.photobucket.com/albums/zz344/hrt4me/?action=view&current=minigunonwildhogs.mp4

Hansam
June 13, 2012, 09:27 AM
All that ammo for only 3 verified kills...

Such a waste.

Skadoosh
June 13, 2012, 10:02 AM
I think the third comment below the video sums it pretty well...

Saltydog235
June 13, 2012, 10:53 AM
Put that thing on a Helicoper and you got nother but fun, fun, fun on one of those Ag land massacres.

Art Eatman
June 13, 2012, 10:54 AM
Hansam, it was often claimed that some 25,000 rounds were fired per VC/NVA killed in Vietnam.

But, yeah, the comment about eradication of pests was certainly apropos. Feral hogs are about like giant cockroaches, all things considered--but at least the blasted things are edible.

rickyrick
June 13, 2012, 11:01 AM
I know its inappropriate but did look like fun.

FrankenMauser
June 13, 2012, 07:11 PM
...Definitely looks canned.

I can't judge them for their actions. But I prefer to give any animal a better death than that poor shooting, even vermin deserve a little better.

arch308
June 13, 2012, 08:05 PM
I hate hogs and kill them on sight but letting them out of some pen/cage to mow them down like that......kinda disgusting IMO.

Hansam
June 13, 2012, 10:30 PM
I don't see anything disgusting about it except that they were caught, caged and then the majority of them were allowed to escape. If you'd gone to the trouble of catching all these hogs you should have just killed them instead of releasing them to be shot and of course missed - and thus just freed.

I also think its a waste of ammo for only 3 confirmed kills.

woodrow019
June 13, 2012, 10:39 PM
this is inappropriate but hahahaha, wouldn't recommend it but sure looks fun!

1tfl
June 14, 2012, 09:32 AM
Personally that's pretty disgusting.
I've never killed any animal purely for the joy of killing.
But each to their own.

doofus47
June 14, 2012, 10:33 AM
I see stuff like that and I tend to worry a bit.

rickyrick
June 14, 2012, 11:56 AM
Pig hunting has no rules, so being able to kill them in any manner brings out a lot of weirdos. I suspect that somebody paid a ton of money to do that. That wasn't even for pig controll... My suspicions are that those were captured pigs and re-released for that activity. That gun did more environmental damage than those pigs would have caused.

That being said, there's a vast difference between hunting pigs for sport and meat than trying to kill them for control purposes, but it still has to be done smartly. I hunt them to keep them away, so, there's times I have to kill them and drag them off. You have to kill enough do the rest will stay away for a while.

I don't fire a shot that I can't account for. So I don't take shots at running pigs.

hogdogs
June 14, 2012, 01:05 PM
Nothing there says "canned" to me... These things in herds are often on a routine and can be "headed off" and waited for...

Those looked like fully healthy feral pigs to me...

I wish the herd could have been larger though...

Brent

FrontSight
June 14, 2012, 02:27 PM
Haven't seen it yet, but from what I have read, the only problem I have with it is that at least one may have gotten away!

Should have had claymores set up for any that escaped the initial zone...

They are like rats, only 1,000 times bigger!

rickyrick
June 14, 2012, 06:48 PM
Brent, at this point I am merely speculating, there is no explanation with the video so that leaves us to hash out our own plot. After your statement I see that any of number of things could have happened.

As my hunting style is to wait in a shadowy spot on a known pig route that I scouted ahead of time then pick one or two off. They could have done that,(just armed with a mini gun),the pigs could have just happened to cross the range at the wrong moment. The video is pretty short to come up with the correct assumption. I don't think any suffered long, but I bet the meat was ruined. Lol

458winshooter
June 15, 2012, 10:46 PM
I am glade I was not sharing a WWI trench with that guy we'd be overrun.

NoirFan
June 28, 2012, 03:19 AM
Two separate issues here:

1) Feral pigs are a destructive invasive species, and should be killed by any humane means necessary. TRUE

2) Anyone who enjoys machine gunning animals, or watching videos of machine gunning animals is probably a huge dirt bag. ALSO TRUE

These two issues do not contradict each other in my opinion.

FrankenMauser
June 28, 2012, 05:59 AM
2) Anyone who enjoys machine gunning animals, or watching videos of machine gunning animals is probably a huge dirt bag. ALSO TRUE

These two issues do not contradict each other in my opinion.

Although I may agree with your opinion, personal attacks or insults (even 'group' insults) aren't the way things work here.

rickyrick
June 28, 2012, 07:04 AM
I didn't agree with the method, but I don't think any inhumane kills were proved or disproved.

The most inhumane thing I've ever seen was bow hunting.

Kreyzhorse
June 29, 2012, 07:04 AM
Certainly looks like a canned hunt to me with the hogs being released right of screen. And, as far as canned hunts go, this one looks pretty distasteful.

I understand how invasive these things are and I have no problem with eradication but this isn't a hunt I'd sign up for.

lykalagahit
June 29, 2012, 08:01 AM
I hate hogs and kill them on sight but letting them out of some pen/cage to mow them down like that......kinda disgusting IMO.

gun nut
June 29, 2012, 08:40 AM
I know pigs are a nuisance. But me being a human prefer to kill humanely. What a waste of ammo.

RangerHAAF
July 15, 2012, 05:36 PM
I don't like seeing that. The guys doing it should remember the cliches of the anti-gunners when they tried to tag "assault weapons" with being operated to do what that minigun did. It's only validating their propaganda.

assiepedro
July 16, 2012, 02:53 AM
Well..that was differant.

Art Eatman
July 16, 2012, 09:12 AM
I guess that the thing to remember is that for a guy whose pasture has been torn up or whose crop has been destroyed, extreme anger is the norm. Maybe even hatred. The ensuing desire is for maximum killing, eradication. He's not interested in any ethics or morals, and doesn't consider it hunting in the sense that we here use the word.

Pest control, as with roaches or rats. As with gophers or armadillos on a golf course.

rickyrick
July 16, 2012, 11:58 AM
I laughed at the amount of pasture torn up by the mini gun

hogdogs
July 16, 2012, 08:40 PM
I am still in a quandary... In my years amongst the wild/feral hog stocks... I never found a trait that makes these pigs resemble released runners... 'Cept that these are, in fact, runnin'....

Seems many have never seen a sounder of pigs take to flight....

Be it a single... a pair... a few or a snot load... when they run they basically take flight in similar direction just like these did etc...

Brent

Art Eatman
July 16, 2012, 09:06 PM
When in groups and spooked, critters seem to take off generally together. Deer, cows, horses, javelinas, goats...They're not like a covey of quail. :)

Double Naught Spy
July 16, 2012, 09:17 PM
I disagree. It looks like they are releasing captured hogs. All the hogs seem to originate from about the same spot. Yes, I have seen sounders run. I have also seen sounders bolt in the a myriad of directions when been shot at by hunters.

Not only that, but with all the folks standing around, it does not look like these guys are at a choke point in the middle of the field. You can tell by the shadows and voices that there are quite a few people standing around to watch and that the camera is careful to not show where the pigs come from. Not only that, but the pigs materialize just as the shooter gets ready.

It is legal, but I am not sure that it is really eradication in the intended sense of the word if you capture them and then release them again.

I am curious about the structures in the distance. I failed to notice anything of a proper backstop.

Sphawley
July 17, 2012, 01:05 AM
I know hogs are a real pain in the ass, but I just cant justify this...

JimPage
July 17, 2012, 06:59 AM
Disgusting!:mad:

Saltydog235
July 17, 2012, 08:53 AM
Who cares, its nasty vermin. Let them and those things will out breed roaches. Heck if I thought shooting one in the ass with a pellet would cause it to get gangrene and die somewhere I'd do it. And for you bleeding hearts, I've shot the dang things to wound them so they'd call back the others with distress squeals, you can get a couple more that way.

hogdogs
July 17, 2012, 09:45 AM
I know plenty of ranchers that swear by a .22lr in the cab of the truck or on the tractor....

One told me he just has to count "kills" a week later with the circling buzzards....

Brent

Art Eatman
July 17, 2012, 10:41 AM
Ah, timing. I was just on the phone with a coin-dealer buddy, and he veered off into fulminating against hogs on his farm, tearing up the place.

Hogs on your place? It's just like taking out your billfold and tossing money on the ground and walking off and leaving it. Not many folks think that's a good thing to do. Serious resentment against the notion.

You hit somebody in the billfold and he's quite likely to find great enjoyment in revenge. He won't care how a hog gets dead, as long as it's dead.

farmerboy
July 17, 2012, 09:54 PM
Looks fun, but on the other hand. Don't like canned hunts and seems a bit like cruelty to animals. If you're gonna kill things seems like the right thing to do is eat it or give it to someone who will. Didn't show what these fellas were doing afterwards but they spent alot of money and probably didn't mess with them afterwards. Atleast give them to a drop off place and feed the homeless, poor or prisoners. IMO.

Art Eatman
July 17, 2012, 10:09 PM
farmerboy, there are all manner of regulations with which to comply before doing a charitable thing with dead hogs. For many hog shooters, it's just more hassle than is worthwhile.

farmerboy
July 17, 2012, 11:18 PM
yes everyone has their own opinions and thats what makes us different and who we are but I sure cant say i am or have been perfect but i guess Im saying Id try to give the hog to somebody less fortunate maybe in town or something.. Maybe just me but I have killed hogs and took them to town and found someone who wanted them but understand everytime is not so simple.

Saltydog235
July 18, 2012, 06:55 AM
We don't call them ditch meat for nothing. Might process a smaller one but not those big rank boars. Besides, its cheaper to buy pork than it is to process it. Buzzards, worms and maggots gotta eat too.

Art Eatman
July 18, 2012, 08:36 AM
I doubt that there is disagreement here that miniguns are not at all sporting. I hope that it's realized that for many who have had to deal with damage from feral hogs that fairness, ethics, clean kill, etc., are just not part of the equation.

Let's leave it at that...