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Slugo
June 3, 2012, 08:34 AM
when you are in central PA. One of the most advanced shooting facilities on the planet. Regular ATA trap targets travel at 45mph from 1 trap, international trap targets travel at 65mph from 15 separate stations inside the bunker. Talk about the ultimate shotgun experience!! The best thing, you just insert a credit card, it counts up the birds and you are billed accordingly. The trap house holds over 200,000 clay targets...

http://keystoneshootingpark.com/wp-content/gallery/construction/picture-662.jpg

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http://keystoneshootingpark.com/wp-content/gallery/construction/picture-671.jpg

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http://keystoneshootingpark.com/wp-content/gallery/construction/picture-600.jpg

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Checkout the website. I've shot it a couple of times...

http://keystoneshootingpark.com/

Slugo
June 3, 2012, 08:41 AM
also, on the same grounds you can shoot championship quality sporting clays...

http://martzs.com/sporting-clays.htm

zippy13
June 3, 2012, 09:52 AM
Thanks for the pics, Slugo. They substantiate my comment of last Friday, "With 15 machines and a lot of concrete work, bunkers are expensive." It's nice to see a new range being developed. I'm curious, is PA exempt from the ADA? I know some wheelchair shooters who would find those stairs insurmountable.

Slugo
June 3, 2012, 10:01 AM
zippy, these kinds of structures are exempt from the ADA regulations...

zippy13
June 3, 2012, 11:57 AM
these kinds of structures are exempt from the ADA regulations
Try telling that to the wheelchair panthers. If it's an activity open to the public, they'll demand their right to access. The purpose of the ADA is to prevent this type of exclusion.

TheKlawMan
June 3, 2012, 01:49 PM
Now I understand why they call it bunker trap. It looks like part of the Atlantic Wall.

zippy13
June 3, 2012, 02:33 PM
It looks like part of the Atlantic Wall.
TKM, in our part of the country, bunkers are typically at grade and are unremarkable unless seen from the business side. This one appears to be constructed into a hill side.

oneounceload
June 3, 2012, 04:15 PM
And when it is too cold in PA, come to Gainesville for some bunker

Drummer101
June 3, 2012, 04:41 PM
Got family in Gainsville....

Maybe someday.

Slugo
June 3, 2012, 05:24 PM
zippy, again, this structure does not come under the federal ADA regulations, nor any other building codes, both local and state...

zippy13
June 3, 2012, 07:16 PM
Slogo, Section 206.2.2 of the Standards is pretty explicit.
It requires at least one accessible route to connect accessible buildings, facilities, elements, and spaces on the same site.

Slugo
June 3, 2012, 07:41 PM
you are aware that even the feds struck down dozens of provisions within the standards. And, the federal regs apply to facilities that are constructed with federal funds, or, receive federal funds like hospitals and clinics through both the Medicare and Medicaid health financing programs. Also, universities, schools and other institutions receiving federal funding. Don't know of any clay target venues receiving federal funding!

I'm a registered architect and serve on the AIA committee on Minimum Standards for Health Care Facilities and Hospitals. I also served on the AIA ADA standards task force back when the law was promulgated...

Dave McC
June 3, 2012, 09:16 PM
Thanks, looks like my kind of playpen.

If we do this, more like after Labor Day. Over the summer, I get to play Grandpa with a grand niece. She's turning 12 and will be staying with us for a while.

I'll take her fishing, teach her to shoot and whittle, and to mistrust the government. All the right skills and values.....

zippy13
June 3, 2012, 11:23 PM
Slugo, please see PM.

Slugo
June 4, 2012, 01:14 AM
zippy, got it and replied. I see we have quite a bit in common! :)

Dave McC
June 4, 2012, 07:44 AM
PGC has a bunker setup, the only one this side of Quantico. I shoot it sometimes. IIRC, my best round was an 18/25. Like the dove opener and FITASC, Bunker is a reality check.....

BigJimP
June 4, 2012, 01:47 PM
Nice looking facility ..../ thanks for the photos..

If I find myself in PA anytime in the next yr or so, I will check it out...

Slugo
June 4, 2012, 02:36 PM
BJP, you let me know, I'll take you there!! ;)

BigJimP
June 4, 2012, 02:39 PM
Thanks,

no immediate plans to travel Eastern US....but in a yr or so ...as things in my office slow down a little ...we'll see...

TheKlawMan
June 4, 2012, 03:37 PM
I think I best stay away from bunker trap for a while. If Slugo shot an 18/25, I would probably come away crying. Been thinking about trying 5 stand, which should send me to the showers.

Slugo
June 4, 2012, 05:22 PM
Klaw, my first time shooting international trap, I hit an amazing 6/25! :eek: LOL

zippy13
June 4, 2012, 07:11 PM
Slugo, do you know, is there target storage under the stairways?

Slugo
June 4, 2012, 07:16 PM
why yes my friend, and the enclosure has a 12 hour fire rating with a 12 hour UL rated B-label door and rapid response industrial grade, rack storage sprinklers!!! ;)

PS: We use non-combustible (asbestos) targets. EPA approved... :D

zippy13
June 4, 2012, 07:21 PM
...and the shooting stations do double duty as blow-off vents. :rolleyes:

Slugo
June 4, 2012, 07:23 PM
we bad!!! :D