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KBP
May 24, 2012, 03:12 PM
"Obama finally lifted his re-importation ban on the 84,417 M1 Garands that have been sitting in a Korean warehouse." Headline on Yahoo news today! Where can I buy one of these?

Capybara
May 24, 2012, 04:10 PM
Link?

kraigwy
May 24, 2012, 04:35 PM
If this is true:

Korea is gonna sell them to some jobber, which will add their mark up. Some how I don't see there is going to be a deal here.

If you want a M1, buy one from the CMP. The prices are the best you'll find. Before they are put up for sale, the CMP Armors go over them to make sure they are serviceable and safe.

If there is a problem, you'll not find better customer service anywhere.

The proceeds from the sale of CMP guns go to fund their shooting programs, mainly geared toward Junior Programs.

Skadoosh
May 24, 2012, 04:45 PM
This is not a done deal....not even close.

aarondhgraham
May 24, 2012, 04:50 PM
But I've been wrong before.

Please post a link if you can,,,
I searched yahoo news and found nothing.

Aarond

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KBP
May 24, 2012, 04:53 PM
Here is a link on line. CNN had a scrolling headline on TV this afternoon that said the ban was lifted on imports of Korean M1 Grands! This story might not be what we had hoped for, but it might be a start! My father was a Korean war veteran so I might have a chance to get one! Will it be worth the cost? http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=68623 :confused:

Chuckusaret
May 24, 2012, 05:09 PM
I worked with the Korean White Horse Div. in Korea in '65 and in Vietnam in '66 and from what I remember mostly during their training was the M1 Carbines and M1 Garands were mostly beaters IMO. The weapons were given to Korea under the Lend Lease program plus some were also given to them under many of the other trade/aid programs. They were armed with the latest weapons in Vietnam. I would buy from the CMP.

Skadoosh
May 24, 2012, 06:15 PM
The link to a link you posted is a Korean news article....from January of 2012.

As I said before, the Koreans are reporting this...not the US. And it would wise to realize that the Koreans are likely being a more than a bit overzealous in reporting this...

KBP
May 25, 2012, 05:12 AM
This news headline that CNN TV posted yesterday on the ban being lifted on importing M1s is very strange. I immediately searched CNN online also, and the only article I could find was the one I posted! Why would they post a 4 month old article written in a Korean newspaper? It doesn't seem to have any merit at all to me! The reason I posted it here was to find out if there was something I missed and see if anyone else saw the headline on CNN. Ken:confused:

Mike Irwin
May 26, 2012, 12:06 AM
Not lend lease. That ended with the end of world war two. It was straight up military aid.

MarkDozier
May 26, 2012, 02:25 AM
The M-1 are coming but it will be while according to Southern Ohio Guns newsletter/ad i got a few days ago.

BloodOmen911
May 26, 2012, 11:45 AM
What about the M1 carbines they were trying to import?

Chris_B
May 26, 2012, 03:35 PM
I'm hoping that if nothing else, the Korean M1s will prove a good source of parts. And maybe ammo

TX Hunter
May 26, 2012, 06:10 PM
Im glad the ban was lifted, I hope the Garands show up here, I would love it if the M1 Carbines could as well.
The CMP is a wonderfull thing, but some of us cant drive 1000 miles or so to go to a club match, it would be nice to be able to just order one with your C&R.

Winchester_73
May 26, 2012, 06:38 PM
I almost was ready to call this BS but I found this article.

Sadly, and as I originally thought on why ban these rifles, M1 carbines will still be banned. Apparently the South Koreans have over 600k stock piled. Obama won't allow the carbines because of how they accept magazines. He most likely allowed garands because they are 8 rounds in a clip only.

http://waznmentobe.com/guns/obama-partially-relents-will-allow-importation-of-m1-garand-rifles-still-blocking-m1-carbines.html

Here is an earlier article with more info:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/08/obama-continues-ban-on-importation-of-600000-historical-collectible-m1-carbine-rifles-fate-of-86000-garands-still-in-doubt/

TX Hunter
May 26, 2012, 07:03 PM
The whole Clip thing is Silly, why shound it matter if a Rifle accepts a Clip ?
I think every able bodied American Man should be issued a Rifle with a Clip.
Different Strokes I guess.:rolleyes:

Winchester_73
May 26, 2012, 07:08 PM
The whole Clip thing is Silly, why shound it matter if a Rifle accepts a Clip ?

Well someone can reload faster and have to reload less often when shooting a M1 carbine compared to a garand.

The big time hypocrisy is how many AKs and ARs are already floating around. The m1 carbine ammo is harder to find. I highly doubt thugs will start buying up M1 carbines. In a SHTF scenario, I'd rather have a AR followed by a AK. After those 2, I don't know what, but I still wouldn't pick a carbine. They were a great gun for the time, but importing 600k of them would have little criminal significance today.

KBP
May 27, 2012, 08:02 PM
Thanks for all the replies! We should keep our eyes and ears searching the news to see if anything new about these M1s comes up! Right now, I'm disappointed and feel this is no news to get excited about! :(

kozak6
May 28, 2012, 12:46 AM
The word is that these rifles are in absolutely terrible condition.

Regardless of how cheap it is, I don't know if a potentially unsafe project Garand is for me.

emcon5
May 29, 2012, 10:35 AM
The CMP is a wonderfull thing, but some of us cant drive 1000 miles or so to go to a club match, it would be nice to be able to just order one with your C&R.

You may want to review the eligibility requirements, a match is no longer required, and hasn't been for some time.

You need to join a member club, and there are many that qualify, and show proof of "Marksmanship or other Firearms Related Activity" which a number of things cover:

http://www.thecmp.org/Sales/eligibility.htm

Current or past military service.
Current or past law enforcement service
Participation in a rifle, pistol, air gun or shotgun competition (provide copy of results bulletin).
Completion of a marksmanship clinic that included live fire training (provide a copy of the certificate of completion or a statement from the instructor).
Distinguished, Instructor, or Coach status. - Concealed Carry License.
Firearms Owner Identification Cards that included live fire training. - FFL or C&R license.
Completion of a Hunter Safety Course that included live fire training.
Certification from range or club official or law enforcement officer witnessing shooting activity. A form for use in completing and certifying your range firing can be downloaded from the CMP web site at http://www.odcmp.com/competitions/forms/marksmanship.pdf

No proof of marksmanship required if over age 60. Proof of club membership and citizenship required for all ages. NOTE: Proof of marksmanship activity is not required for purchase of ammunition, parts, publications or memorabilia.

Hardcase
May 29, 2012, 03:44 PM
The CMP is a wonderfull thing, but some of us cant drive 1000 miles or so to go to a club match, it would be nice to be able to just order one with your C&R.

If you're thinking of the Camp Perry matches, that's not what they mean. Any affiliated club activity counts. If you're not a member of an affiliated club, you can join the Garand Collectors' Association for 25 clams (and get four really nice magazines every year) and use your C&R FFL as evidence of firearms related activity.

It took me all of about an hour to fill out the papers they needed, copy a few documents, visit the notary, the bank and the post office. I was a member of an affiliated club, but I joined the GCA anyway, because I really like the magazine.

There are quite a few reasons why you can't just use a C&R, but one of the biggies is that the CMP isn't in business to sell guns, but to promote marksmanship amongst the "unorganized militia" (that's us regular folks). The way that they sell guns helps satisfy that purpose.

Hawg
May 29, 2012, 04:15 PM
Even if the Garands are let in they wont go through the CMP. They will be sold to importers who will mark them up and resell them.

TX Hunter
May 29, 2012, 06:51 PM
I didnt realize it, Im qualified in many ways to become a member.
I believe I will join them.:)

smoakingun
May 29, 2012, 07:38 PM
For those who would be interested, attending an appleseed event can get you a cmp garand. The event itself counts as the match requirement. Becoming a member of the RWVA (parent organization of project appleseed) meets the club membership requirement, and being a naturalized or natural born American citizen is the third. Find and attend an appleseed near you!

Willie Sutton
May 30, 2012, 07:21 PM
The word is that these rifles are in absolutely terrible condition.Regardless of how cheap it is, I don't know if a potentially unsafe project Garand is for me.


From what "reliable" source are you told this? :rolleyes:

Considering that we've already had several thousand come into the US previously without any issues or comments, it's not really credible to say in advance of arrival what they are like. The ROK's take good care of their stuff: They know that they might NEED it one day. Field wear... sure. "Absolutely Terrible"... Uhh... probably not.


Willie

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baddarryl
May 30, 2012, 10:01 PM
I am 99% sure my Grandfather had one of these on his gun rack in the hallway when I was a kid. I remember him saying it was an M1 from WWII. He served in Poland. I asked my mom what ever happened to it and she said he had sold it in the 80's or something. Damn what I would give for that thing now!

Ignition Override
May 30, 2012, 11:38 PM
This is also an active topic under Rifles at "THR".

Hardcase
June 1, 2012, 10:45 PM
Given that none of the reports from five months ago contained any confirmation from the US government, I'd view the announcement that the ban has been lifted with suspicion.

TX Hunter
June 5, 2012, 08:47 AM
I cant find any conformation either. I would love it if these rifles and carbines would be allowed in. The M1 Carbine has become scarce.

Mike40-11
June 23, 2012, 08:26 AM
Been watching this for months now. Not sure about what or when but there seems to be SOME new activity in that Korean surplus M2 ball is starting to show up at various dealers. What that means for timeline on the rifles.....:confused:

sonick808
June 23, 2012, 03:29 PM
too bad the importers will drive the prices into the stratosphere.

I really wish they'd let the carbines back in :(

kozak6
June 24, 2012, 05:16 AM
Yeah, me too. While there's nothing wrong with the Garand, a carbine meets my needs better.

Kentucky-75
June 24, 2012, 12:08 PM
Perhaps the mods could change the title of the thread to
"The M1 Garand Ban Might Be lifted" ?