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azmark
May 18, 2012, 05:11 PM
I want to get a big bore revolver to hunt with, but it may take longer than hoped to gather the cash. I have a .357 now and I'd like to feel out the people here on the caliber's usefulness for hunting deer and wild boar.

buck460XVR
May 18, 2012, 05:35 PM
My first 4 handgun deer were with a 6'' 686. The gun is certainly up to the task if you are.

LSnSC
May 18, 2012, 06:22 PM
Get some of these and give em hell...

http://www.shopcorbon.com/CORBON-Hunter/357-Mag-180gr-CORBON-Hunter-BCSP/HT357180BC-20/300/Product

riddleofsteel
May 18, 2012, 08:36 PM
If you can shoot the .357 in a six to ten inch barrel will kill the game you mentioned. If you can't shoot there is not much future in anything larger.

Shotgun693
May 18, 2012, 10:30 PM
How odd, the deer I shot with a 4" barrel .357 didn't know they weren't supposed to fall over dead.

samsmix
May 18, 2012, 10:55 PM
Well placed hits (aim to break the off-side shoulder) and heavy for caliber bullets of expanding (HP) design for deer, and wide flat nose design for piggies. If you want one bullet design for both, use the piggy loads. There are hotter, but Federal Premium Hunting 180s are easy to come by.

IF you are hunting from a stand, and willing to wait for the animal to present you with an archery-type broadside-to-quartering away angle, then a self defense style 125gr HP will be okay for deer.

azmark
May 19, 2012, 04:21 PM
I wouldn't mind hearing about what different kinds of game some you guys have actually taken with a .357.

kraigwy
May 19, 2012, 04:50 PM
I wouldn't mind hearing about what different kinds of game some you guys have actually taken with a .357.

Shot while trying to attack my patrol car, with a 4 in Model 28, 150 Grn LSWC

http://photos.imageevent.com/kraigwy/buffalo/websize/IMG_NEW.jpg

Ignor the rifle, the photo was staged, (long story) shot with the same revolver and ammo above. Will admit, the first shot bounced off his forehead.

http://photos.imageevent.com/kraigwy/buffalo/websize/Buffalo.jpg

azmark
May 19, 2012, 05:05 PM
Wow. A moose attack. I have heard they can get cranky. I think I would have soiled myself. Now, THAT'S a story for the grandkids.

Was the Bison a nuisance situation?

Thanks for that post.

farmerboy
May 19, 2012, 05:31 PM
The 357 is idea for deer and hogs. Don't know what you'll be hunting.

kraigwy
May 19, 2012, 06:17 PM
Was the Bison a nuisance situation?

Not really. Custer (SD) State Park has lots of wild bison. Every fall they auction off excess. I bought the sucker with the ideal of turning it loose in my back pasture and after a few days hunting it, but mainly for the meat. (They have lots of meat).

BAD IDEAL

First off, it wasn't happy being loaded in the trailer. When I got it home my wife and granddaughter thought it was hungry so they decided to feed it.....it dern near tore my trailer apart.

I figured turning it loose was a bad ideal, I'd end up fixing fences for days.

So I decide to shoot it in the trailer to keep from having to repair fences.

I called my neighbor, the local taxidermy for advice on shooting it with out tearing up the future mount. So he comes over, tells me not to use the rifle but use a pistol.

OK, so I stick my Model 28 inside the trailer and promply bounce a bullet off his forehead. Now he's really mad. My so called taxidermy is rolling on the ground laughing.

I start to get the rifle and he says no, "draw an imaganary line from the base of the horn to the eye, then from the other horn to the eye, where the lines would cross is where I want to shoot. That worked.

I took the picture using my Remington Rolling Block in 44-90 Sharps BN, so I'd have a story for the grandkids. But turns out the real story is better then anything I could make up.

Shotgun693
May 19, 2012, 11:26 PM
I guess over the years I've killed about 20 or more deer with a .357. Some, likely half or maybe 60% from a carbine. I've also killed possum, rabbits, a bunch of armadillo, one squirrel and a bunch of dogs and cats. The dogs and cats were feral, running loose killing wildlife and wild birds.

azmark
May 20, 2012, 12:39 AM
I'd like to hunt deer here in AZ and hogs in FL. I would try any varmmint here plus nuisance javelina if it's legal. My son's girlfriend has a problem with them coming right up to the house and believes they are responsible for a missing dog. I'll have to check with law enforcement on the legality issue.

Newton24b
May 20, 2012, 06:41 PM
it was done in the 30s and into the 60s. with the 357.

however they have created energy rules in some states. some have minimum barrel length.

the ultimate factor is how well can you shoot that gun and bullet combination?

azmark
May 20, 2012, 08:28 PM
Yep, I need to practice, but the law in AZ just says you have to use a centerfire handgun for deer. No other requirements.

Dustin746
May 22, 2012, 08:41 PM
Probably won't help you much but if you want a revolver caliber gun you could always go with a mare's leg .357 since I don't know too much about revolvers

Kreyzhorse
May 23, 2012, 07:46 PM
Not really. Custer (SD) State Park has lots of wild bison. Every fall they auction off excess. I bought the sucker with the ideal of turning it loose in my back pasture and after a few days hunting it, but mainly for the meat. (They have lots of meat.

Great story Kraig.

BIG P
May 24, 2012, 01:01 AM
357 will work fine for deer & hog. Practice,practice,pratice.

Buzzcook
May 24, 2012, 01:49 PM
Check your local game laws. It should be fine, but some states are picky.

dwright1951
May 24, 2012, 02:54 PM
I used to quail hunt a lot (back when we had quail in south Alabama) and I always carried a pistol for snakes, dillers, and other varmints. started off with a 22 then moved up to a .357 and finally a 44mag. I killed lots of deer with the latter two mostly the 44 but the .357 worked just fine when the right shot presented itself.

bamaranger
May 26, 2012, 01:32 AM
Kraig,

I have read your stuff and looked at your photos for several years now, but................

the bison story tops them all!!!!!!!

tmlynch
May 27, 2012, 01:04 PM
I want to subscribe to the kraigwy channel. I'm learning stuff all the time.

Regards,
Tom

CCCLVII
May 28, 2012, 09:46 AM
I have killed a mule deer with a 357 magnum. The shot hit the heart and 1 lung then stopped on a rib on the other side, the round was a 180 grain cast lead bullet from buffalo bore. The deer dropped when hit but got back up and ran 30 feet then dropped again.

as my name implys I love the 357 caliber. I have taken several deer a 357 maximum Dan Wesson revolver.

I recomend using heavier bullets 158+ grain but that is just my recommendation.

azmark
May 28, 2012, 10:04 PM
Buzzcook: the only caliber requirements here are for buffalo. 41 Mag minimum.

CCCLVII: I do plan on using big hardcast bullets.

I ran across some ammo the other day that intrigued me. It had a 140 gr. FMJ truncated cone bullet. It's supposed to be for practice but its velocity is listed as well over 1400 fps. That load seems like it would penetrate well. Have any of you used anything like this?

LSnSC
May 29, 2012, 05:57 AM
I dont think that would be an ideal hunting bullet. You want a wider meplat to transfer more energy. A combination of penetration and energy transfer is ideal.

Wide flat nosed gas checked is what you're looking for in cast.

Hornady XTP's in 158 and 180 are good jacketed hunting bullets.

Speer made a half jacket hollow point and soft point that were excellent hunting bullets. They're hard to find now.

The BEST factory 357 hunting load Ive used is the .357 Corbon load linked above. It worked very well out of a 6.5" Blackhawk on deer and pigs.

azmark
June 2, 2012, 08:10 PM
Is a heavier bullet necessarily better? I have been told that a heavier bullet will have more penetration. A lighter bullet driven faster seems to have more foot-pounds of energy. I think I want to use 180 grain bullets but if either 158 or 180 grain bullets will go through a deer, what is the point?

LSnSC
June 4, 2012, 05:42 PM
Heaveir bullets should penetrate more. They usually have heavier construction than lighter bullets of the same caliber. I think you would be fine with a good 158 grain bullet and up. Ive used the Cor Bons so I know from experience they will work on deer and pigs. Ive used 180 grain XTP's out of my 357 Maximum and they worked well, but they are going a bit faster than the regular magnum.

Cool Breeze
June 5, 2012, 02:42 PM
bigger bullets are better penetrators at relatively close range (under 200yds).

all else being equal, ha.............

I think that 357 mag would be fine on deer at about 75 yards or less with the bullets mentioned in a heavy revolver with at least a 6 inch barrel.

I like rugers...........:D with a nice sight system, no scope......


whoa on that buff!................thumbs up

Jack O'Conner
June 5, 2012, 07:41 PM
357 MAG vs elk and the animal lost!

Distance same as modern compound bow range: 50 feet for 1st bullet and about 65 feet for 2nd bullet. Plenty of damage to vitals.

TR

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/rushmoreman/357MAGelk-1.jpg