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deerslayer303
April 5, 2012, 09:39 AM
Hey Ya'll,

I want to recrown my Enfield. This rifle is used to hunt with. I had 3 inches cut off the barrel long ago, but the smith didn't put much of a recess in the muzzle if any at all. When I clean it the inside edge of muzzle is so sharp it will shave a brass cleaning rod if I let it contact that inside edge. I will have to buy the tool from midway to do it, And I was wondering which type of recess to put in it. Believe it or not that old bird will shoot moa as it sits now, so I definately don't want to make it worse. The rifle never shot that well until I cut the barrel down, it used to shoot 1.5-1.75" groups at a 100. Here is a pic of the muzzle as it sits now.
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww118/deerslayer303/Guns/muzzle.jpg

Clemson
April 5, 2012, 10:27 PM
Why are you cleaning an Enfield from the muzzle?

You can hand cut an 11 degree crown with the proper tools, but for goodness sake clean it from the breech.

Clemson

deerslayer303
April 5, 2012, 11:36 PM
Why are you cleaning an Enfield from the muzzle?



umm, why not? I have always been taught it doesn't matter as long as you go all the way, and don't stop mid way and try to come back out. What harm can possibly come from a cotton patch running down the bore from the muzzle? :confused:

hooligan1
April 6, 2012, 07:07 AM
It's alot better to clean the barrel from the breech, deerslayer because the muzzle is too important to the bullets flight to screw it up with a cleaning rod!;)

Doyle
April 6, 2012, 07:22 AM
There is a Larry Potterfield video on Youtube showing you how to do a flat crown with a hand drill. Not as good as a chamfered crown, but still functional.

deerslayer303
April 6, 2012, 07:42 AM
It's alot better to clean the barrel from the breech, deerslayer because the muzzle is too important to the bullets flight to screw it up with a cleaning rod!

Duly Noted Sir, I stand corrected, I do use the brass muzzle guide but I have to admit not always. Okeedokee I will clean from the breech from now on. Funny I learn something new everyday, I've been shooting since I was 5. Started maintaining my own Rifle at 14 (this Enfield was my first rifle) and have been shoving cleaning rods down the muzzle every since and here I am 34 y/o. :D

deerslayer303
April 6, 2012, 07:43 AM
There is a Larry Potterfield video on Youtube showing you how to do a flat crown with a hand drill. Not as good as a chamfered crown, but still functional.

Thank you I will go check that out right now.

tango1niner
April 6, 2012, 10:57 AM
Know anyone w/a lathe? They should be able to do it. Piece of cake.

deerslayer303
April 7, 2012, 04:57 AM
Know anyone w/a lathe? They should be able to do it. Piece of cake.

ummm yes I do, the next shop over from ours, I may go over there and see it they will do it for me for say a 6 pack :D

madcratebuilder
April 7, 2012, 07:39 AM
The No4 Enfields well have a flat face at the muzzle, some well have a slight bevel. I've seen plenty of LE's with crown damage but it's seldom caused by the cleaning rod.

A brass, aluminum or carbon fiber cleaning rod well not damage the muzzle. The steel is significantly harder than the rod. Typical steel cleaning rods seen in military service can wear the crown from years and years of constant cleaning these receive in military service.

I do clean all my precision barrels in the direction of bullet travel, but for mil-surps from the muzzle is fine. If you overly concerned about muzzle wear use a bore guide.

edward5759
April 7, 2012, 02:34 PM
If it's a chrome lined barrel then a lathe and carbide is what I use.
H.S. steel crowning tools don't take the hardness of the chrome.

Ed

zxcvbob
April 7, 2012, 02:55 PM
Why not use a brass round-head bolt or screw and lapping compound? The end is cut off nice and square ain't it?

Bill DeShivs
April 7, 2012, 03:49 PM
If it shoots good, why not leave it alone? :rolleyes:

madcratebuilder
April 8, 2012, 08:27 AM
If it shoots good, why not leave it alone?

Fix it till it's broke!:eek:

deerslayer303
April 9, 2012, 07:49 PM
Yeah it shoots dang good, I just want to clean up that really sharp edge that was left when the barrel was cut. And I will try that brass screw as I have some lapping compound. That will probably be the best thing just to clean that edge up anyway.

Doyle
April 9, 2012, 08:37 PM
Instead of a brass screw, you might want to check the hardware store and see if they have a brass faucet valve. It is a brass ball with a stem. If you can find the right one, they are the perfect size for touching up a crown.