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bcsatch
March 23, 2012, 12:13 PM
Help, was given this mauser and need to know what I have. Have photo link.


http://s1149.photobucket.com/albums/o583/bcsatch/

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the rifleer
March 23, 2012, 12:36 PM
Well, its a mauser, I just can't tell you what model or from where.

Romeo 33 Delta
March 23, 2012, 12:41 PM
Kar98k built by Oberndorf in 1941 (byf 41 marking on receiver ).

roberto mervicini
March 23, 2012, 12:57 PM
yes is a k98 from Obendorf factory, build in 1941, most probably still in the original caliber 8mm mauser ( 8x57) and it look like is a mismatch.

emcon5
March 23, 2012, 03:29 PM
Reworked by someone along the way, based on the number stamped on the butt. Probably not Soviets, based on the lack of the usual Soviet hot-dip blue/black finish.

Gator Weiss
March 25, 2012, 09:01 AM
You have a WWW2 era Mauser K98. These were called Karabiner type 98. In my opinion this is one of the finest military rifles ever to be produced. It is certainly among the strongest actions and among the most accurate of it's day. I have some of these rifles and one in particular I will never sell or trade.

The markings on the side of the receiver ring on your rifle are unmistakably a stamp the pattern of which was generated under the third reich. Your rifle would have been made between 1938 and 1945. On top of the receiver ring might be a two-digit year stamp and near that stamp will be a factory code. You can easily decipher these factory codes with information available to find on the internet.

What little I can see of the wooden stock confirms that it is not a Yugoslav Mauser stock. You appear to have a German stock, probably the original stock. Maybe it is made of Beechwood. In the butt stock, it would appear the end of the sling (keeper) is wedged into the recess cut into the wood for that purpose. This is clearly from a K98 style sling.

The K98 was normally made in 7.92mm (8mm Mauser JS cartridge) and ammo is easily available on the surplus market, or from Remington. One of the finest military cartridges in the world.

You need to be aware of the fact that some who obtained these rifles at times had the chamber altered / reamed by a gunsmith (not that expensive to do) to use 30-06 brass loaded with an 8mm bullet. When you do that, you cant fire 8mm JS in the rifle. Also, this does not mean you can fire 30-06 cartridges in this rifle! Altering the chamber to an '06 case configuration gave a little bit more powder capacity in the case and it provided a common, easy to find, boxer-primed cartrdige casing for reloading their own ammo. They dont make factory produced 8mmx'06. They have to be made on the loading bench. Most of the K98 rifles were probably left intact in the standard 8mm Mauser JS cartridge. Dont go shoving cartridges in there and pulling the trigger until you have had the rifle looked over by someone who knows what they are doing with a Mauser rifle. Often we dont know where these rifles have been and what has been done to them. If the rifle checks out, you have yourself a nice rifle there. Quite valuable and if taken care of will last for generations.

In order to tell you more about the rifle, I would have to see more photos.

It looks like a nice rifle.

Gator Weiss
March 25, 2012, 09:08 AM
Romeo appears to be knowledgeable about where these rifles are produced and so forth. If I were you and had more questions about the rifle, I would consider contacting him. From these limited photos it seems he was knowledable enough to come up with a key piece of info.

Romeo, are you a Mauser man?

madcratebuilder
March 25, 2012, 09:46 AM
The rifles receiver and barrel are matched. It is in a laminated German stock correct for that time period.

The numbers stamped on the butt are indicative to east European countries, but it does not appear to have gone through any type of re-arsenal program.

Nice find.

Is the left side of the receiver marked "MOD98"?

jonnyc
March 25, 2012, 12:52 PM
Based on your pics and the info above, my first guess would be a Yugo refurb of a wartime German rifle, using whatever parts were available.

Romeo 33 Delta
March 25, 2012, 01:09 PM
Gator ... I'm not really a "Mauser man" as much a Military Rifle Obsessed Individual. The real "Mauser man" is John Walters. I think he knows more about Mausers than anyone alive and has done a couple of good books on them. For me, the dead giveaway were the receiver markings in addition to the "overall" on the rifle itself ... receiver, stock, etc.

Nice Kar98k, by the way. I have one produced in '37 and another in '44. Both are fun shooters, super easy to reload for and if any of you guys don't already have one in your rack ... you need to get one!