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btmj
March 16, 2012, 03:39 PM
This is an outgrowth of the recent thread "The way we decide to carry"..... I did not want to hijack that discussion.

How many of you find yourselves avoiding activities which don't allow you to concealed carry?

For example, do you avoid certain athletic activities? I can't imagine swimming laps or playing touch football while wearing a pistol... even running, if you are serious about it, would be hard with a pistol.

Do you avoid travelling to certain cities/states? places you would otherwise want to go, but because you can't legally carry there, you avoid?

I will start by saying that I carry when I can, but if I want or need to do something, I will do it. The fact that I can't carry does not factor into my decission.

But I really want to hear other's thoughts on the matter...

Vermonter
March 16, 2012, 03:55 PM
Carrying doesn't really effect my daily life very much. I live in Vermont and therefore can carry almost anywhere. I often go to a post office and simply disarm and leave it in the truck. Many states will allow you to receive an out of state CCW permit therefore travel to them is not an issue.

My toughest lifestyle issue is the fact that I need to travel through New York on occasion. This is mainly to visit family in other more gun friendly states. I am basically unarmed in NYS however I am also normally pedal down on the interstate and not likely to need a carry setup for much. I have been known to stop on either side of the border and reassemble my firearm and re rig before continuing.

If I do travel to a place that will not allow me to carry I can at least leave it behind (locked of course) and have something to protect us while in residence.

To answer your most basic question however if I have no way to carry I will still do whatever activity or go wherever I please. I will not live in fear just preparation.

Kindest Regards, Vermonter.

lawnboy
March 16, 2012, 04:05 PM
I don't avoid doing anything just because I carry a pistol. But often I have to put the pistol away because it is impractical, illegal or violates a contract to carry it certain places or at certain times.

I don't worry much about being unarmed at such times. I even close my eyes and lose consciousness for several hours on an almost daily basis without a gun on my hip.

BarryLee
March 16, 2012, 04:41 PM
As others have mentioned I do not let carrying a firearm alter my lifestyle. However, I do allow a more vigilant and accountable nature alter my lifestyle. There are places I once visited that I could not imagine going now armed or not. Also, I frequently travel from Georgia to South Carolina and our neighbors won’t accept my permit, but I have no issue about still going.

kraigwy
March 16, 2012, 05:07 PM
My life style hasn't changed a bit because I carry and I always carry.

PawPaw
March 16, 2012, 06:12 PM
How many of you find yourselves avoiding activities which don't allow you to concealed carry?

Except for showering and bedtime, I haven't found an activity that doesn't allow me to carry.

**Edit**. I don't carry in a casino, primarily out of respect for tribal law. But I live in a free state and I haven't really found any other activity that specifically forbids it.

ScottRiqui
March 16, 2012, 09:04 PM
I'm in the military and I can't carry on base, so I don't carry on my way to or from, including any errands that I run after work. If I wanted to, I could lock up my gun at the range near base before work and pick it up again after work, but I haven't seen the need so far. After I get home from work, I usually carry if I go back out again.

Hansam
March 17, 2012, 11:48 PM
Carrying or not doesn't affect my lifestyle. If I'm swimming then ah well I'm unarmed. In places I can't carry because its illegal or its against the wishes of the property owner(s) I don't carry. My weapon is then locked securely in my vehicle.

I don't necessarily dress around carrying either. I live in WI and as I like to tell people I'm more of a tropical person. I get chilled even in 70 degree weather so I'm always wearing an over shirt or sometimes an overcoat. Easy enough for me to conceal a full sized 1911. I usually wear cargo shorts in hot and humid weather with a t-shirt and over shirt. Again easy concealment. If I've determined I have to wear attire that doesn't allow me to easily carry then I'm not carrying. That rarely happens however.

CCW has only been legal in WI for a short time (a matter of several months). My lifestyle hasn't changed since before CCW was legal - with the exception that every morning I now have the added step of putting on my gun. Aside from that nothing has changed in my life.

9mm
March 17, 2012, 11:55 PM
Well, you can carry while your swimming, just get one of those water proof boxs.

This is what I will do when I go to the beach and go swimming.

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But not here, the water is black and if you go in you might not come out! :mad::confused::rolleyes::eek:

Just keep non in the chamber and wrap a towel over it so if people see your case they cant see your gun. Place keys/Id/Ccw etc.. in there, one large strap to your leg/arm and a floaty/orange flag to spot it.

egor20
March 18, 2012, 12:20 AM
Except for the PX and commissary the only other place I can't bring a gun, not even locked in the safe under the truck seat is when I have to pick up and transport horses from Dulles. There are actually times (Spring and Fall) when I don't leave the farm for several weeks. That's the only limits that I can think of.

TexasJustice7
March 18, 2012, 07:18 AM
I limit my travel and activity in places I cannot legally carry to traveling to them only if I have to do so. I refuse to travel and/or do business with any state, location, city or company which does not recognize my Texas gun permit. I don't have a problem doing that because Texas is a big state, and plenty of places I can go without traveling to another State, which are happy to sell me whatever service or product I need. :D

Qtiphky
March 18, 2012, 08:40 AM
I carry and do everything I have always done, except when not legal to do so. When entering Federal buildings and banks I leave it in the truck. I recently came across a few stores in my neighboring state of Wisconsin that had signs posted that they didn't allow it, so, I will not be going there anymore. Not a big deal, they made their choice of who they want as a customer and I will make my choice through dollars spent - elsewhere.

bds32
March 18, 2012, 09:15 AM
As a peace officer, I may not be as constrained legally as some others, but do find myself not wanting to go places where carrying is not allowed such as in foreign countries. Mexico is a good example. I have been there several times but it is extremely doubtful that I will ever go their again, even in the resort areas. I am just too paranoid that I will not be able to protect my family.

When it comes to activities like jogging, I will carry a knife with me when I am just jogging in my own peaceful neighbhorhood but if I venture out on a long run, I take my Ruger LCR with me. It's not overly comfortable but it is comforting.

The choice to carry all of the time or almost all of the time does lead you to make decisions that those who do not carry at all never give any consideration. Those folks are free of the burden and go happily about their lives with no ability to stop anyone's life threatening actions. For me, the biggest fear is not being ready in the very unlikely event that danger is presented.

The good thing about it is there are a lot of good things to do and a lot to discover in places where carrying is legal and practical. Flying is even easier now if you are going to the right places.

kinggabby
March 18, 2012, 10:56 AM
Only 2 places that I go I can not carry. If i have to go in my daughters school and a NBA game. If I can stay in my car at the school I can remain armed. But if I know I will have to go in I have to make sure my gun is at home. And as stated if i go see the Thunder play like tonight then I can not carry it in the arena. Other than those 2 I remain armed. Now come summer I am not sure haw that would affect me if I go to a swimming pool. But I will worry about that when summer gets here.

Hiker 1
March 18, 2012, 06:03 PM
No, life is way too short to limit your activities by CC. I carry almost all of the time but in those rare circumstances when I can't, should the balloon go up then, I'll handle it another way.

Jeremiah/Az
March 18, 2012, 08:39 PM
I will not go to California or Mexico because of their gun laws. If I see a "no gun sign" in a business of any kind, I turn & leave. At the post office, I leave my gun in the truck. I carry all the time otherwise.

JohnKSa
March 18, 2012, 08:42 PM
The gun is there to serve me, not vice versa. When I want to do something that excludes the gun, I leave it behind.

What about risky activities, you may ask? If something is so risky that I don't feel safe doing it without a firearm then I don't do it at all unless there is absolutely no other choice.

I don't use my carry gun as an excuse to do things I wouldn't do otherwise nor as a reason to not do things I want to do.

firespec35
March 18, 2012, 09:27 PM
If I'm going into a pfz then of course I disarm. I don't avoid them, in fact I enjoy getting out to the bars every once in a while. As for stores with no gun signs, I prefer not to patronize them out of philosophy but if I have to, the signs don't carry force of law here. All they can do is ask you to leave if you're found out.

checkmyswag
March 18, 2012, 09:35 PM
Got to live life. Not going to let not being able to carry a gun while taking Zumba class slow me down!

Zumba? I meant BJJ!

Dragline45
March 18, 2012, 09:40 PM
One of the reasons I choose to carry smaller sized guns is because I do not want to limit my lifestyle in ways. I like to wear what I want and not dress around my carry gun. Also in times where it is not convenient to carry a gun, I just simply don't. Like when swimming, playing basketball, working out at the gym, etc... I remember a post on here where a member has a waterproof pack strapped to his wrist with a NAA .22 while swimming. Sorry but to me that's a little overboard. I don't feel the need to be armed 24/7, but regardless it sure is a nice feeling when you are. Usually if I am not carrying a firearm I have an Armando Beltrame switch blade on me that my father got from Italy, it does not go swimming with me, I wont let that salt water ruin the stag handle.

FM12
March 18, 2012, 09:47 PM
Carry is my lifestyle. Period. Amen. Except Federal Courthouses and airports. Snot a problem.

Sport45
March 18, 2012, 09:53 PM
The gun is there to serve me, not vice versa. When I want to do something that excludes the gun, I leave it behind.

What about risky activities, you may ask? If something is so risky that I don't feel safe doing it without a firearm then I don't do it at all unless there is absolutely no other choice.

I don't use my carry gun as an excuse to do things I wouldn't do otherwise nor as a reason to not do things I want to do.

My thoughts exactly. I carry when I can, I don't when I can’t.

Carrying isn't a duty or an obsession, it's an option.

btmj
March 18, 2012, 10:00 PM
Carrying isn't a duty or an obsession, it's an option.
Yep... This

It is good to see I am not alone in my approach... sometimes it is hard to tell how many folks on this site are really hard core about carrying all the time.

If I am running, swimming, or cycling, I want to be competitive and I want to perform my best. An extra 16 oz has no place in my workout.

I don't roller blade, or surf, or cross-country ski. I don't play tennis, touch football, or basket ball. I don't do ballroom dancing. But none of these activities seem very conducive to carrying even the smallest pistol. If I wanted to do any of these things, I would do them, and not worry about lack of a pistol.

Certain kinds of physical labor are just not conducive to carrying. I was cutting down some trees last year in July, and it was about 100 degrees at 2 in the afternoon. I tried to carry, but it just became too much of burden.

My work frequently takes me to other countries, and I have never been to a country that honored a Utah, Missouri, or Florida Concealed Carry permit ...

Justice06RR
March 18, 2012, 10:34 PM
I don't limit my lifestlye depending on CC and its limitations. Even if I can't carry to a bar or post office, doesn't mean i wont go there; I still do. You just gotta leave the EDC secured in the car.

Athletic/sports activities would be somewhat tough. Running or jogging is ok, i have a setup for that. Sports like basketball or swimming is obviously an issue, so the EDC is kept in the car.

btmj
March 18, 2012, 10:48 PM
Carry is my lifestyle. Period. Amen. Except Federal Courthouses and airports. Snot a problem.

This statement sums up what I was getting at... FM12 is Dedicated with a capital D. And I am not. I have 2 different EDC pistols with 5 different holsters to give me as many options as I can, so I can carry as often as I can..... but Carry is NOT my lifestyle. It is for FM12.

I find it so interesting, the different attitudes among those of us who have gone to the effort of carrying concealed.

Hiker 1
March 19, 2012, 08:49 AM
I find it so interesting, the different attitudes among those of us who have gone to the effort of carrying concealed.

Agreed.
My kids are pretty young but I plan to taking them to see the Statue of Liberty, Ground Zero, the DC Mall, Capitol Building, Smithsonian Institute, the Vietnam Wall, the Golden Gate Bridge, etc. as they become old enough to appreciate those things. As of now, I can't CC in those places but it doesn't mean I won't go.

Willie D
March 19, 2012, 09:08 AM
I have a LTCF but barely ever carry. Crazy, I know.

L_Killkenny
March 19, 2012, 10:49 AM
IMO, if you refuse to go someplace that you can't carry for safety concerns then it really isn't someplace you should be going anyway. Contrary to some folks beliefs running into the post office, courthouse, school, NYC, Illinois, etc without a gun will not result in instantaneous death. If you really fear for your life if you go into a certain, store, bar, city, state, etc where carry is not allowed than just don't go there.

Just cause you can carry doesn't make putting yourself into situations YOU deem as questionable a good idea. And if YOU deem ALL situations questionable to the point where you won't go anywhere without a gun then you really should go live on a mountain top.

In short, limits you place on your lifestyle should be the same whether you're packing or not.

LK

old bear
March 19, 2012, 10:58 AM
I will start by saying that I carry when I can, but if I want or need to do something, I will do it. The fact that I can't carry does not factor into my decission.

For years as an active L/E, I was able to CCW many places most could not. Now retired:D it sounds as we went to the same school. I still go where I want to go when I want to go. I will add though if I don't have a weapon on my person I have one close by.

rem44m
March 21, 2012, 12:14 PM
I don't go to states or places I can't carry out of principle. If they think they don't need to honor my rights then I don't spend my money in that state or place. Pretty simple.

Manos de Piedra
March 21, 2012, 12:23 PM
I find it does limit me a little. I dutifully avoid New Jersey for example, and limits my ability to participate when I take my daughter to the playground when I am armed. Stuff like that.

dayman
March 22, 2012, 01:18 PM
I carry whenever possible, but I'm not bothered by leaving it locked in the console when I'm going into a school/post office/etc - I don't like sitting on a gun for extended periods, so it usually rides there anyway. Like many others have said, I don't let other states/countries laws effect my travel plans. Carrying whenever possible, to me seems like being prepared. Limiting my life to only going places I can bring a gun seems more like paranoia.

Tennessee Jed
March 22, 2012, 02:16 PM
There's been one positive change in lifestyle for me. In my state, the law used to be that if a restaurant served alcohol, you couldn't carry there. Period. I'd always leave the piece at home and have a beer or two with dinner whenever we went out.

However, the law was recently changed so you can carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol, as long as you don't have a drink. I've decided it means more to me to be prepared than to have that beer or two. So I have water and stay armed. I've saved a nice amount of money, and lost a few pounds along the way.

F350Diesel
March 24, 2012, 03:21 PM
Living on a small military base in a red state 20+ miles away from a major city has some great advantages. If I'm off-base, I have a gun. Everyone else has a gun too. It's a very friendly town. Since I have had a few violent/armed encounters in my life, having a gun on me is very important but there haven't been too many situations where I couldn't have one (or get one if it hit the fan). I guess if I ever get stationed in NJ or CA I won't enjoy it too much.

BGutzman
March 25, 2012, 11:19 AM
I absolutely avoid places I can’t carry to the best of my ability but there are times and circumstances that make it necessary for me to either leave my weapon at home or lock it in my vehicle...

I do occasionally have to go to the post office or to the VA facilities and then I have to go without despite what the constitution says... Funny how judges have reading problems.... but I cant totally fault them when IMHO the Supreme Court avoided answering the 2A question for some 100+ years...

So no I wont be going to DC, New York City, or ever enter Kalfornia for any reason, not places I ever want to go and they have nothing that interest me that I cant do something similar somewhere else without the anti 2A stuff and in some cases a lot of other extreme crazyness too....

Dont get me wrong I know people in these places are heroically fighting the antis in court but lifes too short to wait for the changes, its just easier to go somewhere else and in the end it is a kind of financial punishment to places like DC, New York City and Kalfornia.. I do my best for my dollar not to go these places... you cant always avoid it but I do what I can..

bikerbill
March 25, 2012, 03:43 PM
I don't let the circumstances determine whether I carry, unless the law forbids me to carry ... I don't carry at the post office or at sporting events, but just about everywhere else my gun is on my person ... we're planning a road trip to Wisconsin this summer, desperately trying to find a route that will let us avoid Illinois and still let us make the stops we want on the way ... when will those people get with the program?

Slipkey
March 25, 2012, 04:12 PM
bikerbill: desperately trying to find a route that will let us avoid Illinois and still let us make the stops we want on the way

Illinois does have a law that protects handgun owners transporting through the state, including in municipalities that ban handguns (i.e. - Chicago).

The pistol must be in a non-working state, in a closed case, with ammunition stored separately. I just clear the weapon, pull the slide and barrel off the frame, keep them together in my lockbox, and put my magazines in the glove box, placing the lockbox on the floor behind the passenger seat for good measure. Then I reach back, re-assemble, reload and re-holster at the first rest stop or exit outside of Illinois. The ISP is very helpful if you have additional questions and want to contact them directly but their laws about through-transport of firearms have held up in court.

Webleymkv
March 28, 2012, 10:41 PM
Outside of work and college, I simply don't frequent places or partake in activities that would make carry illegal or impractical. This is not because I consciously avoid no-carry places/activities but simply because the places/activities aren't ones that I partake/visit frequently anyway. My state has a very small list of "prohibited places" so there really aren't that many areas where I can't carry and I don't travel out of state on a regular basis.

That being said, while I do live in an OC state, I prefer CC. Because of this, the places I go, activities I partake in, and weather often dictate which gun I carry and how I carry it.

Maximus856
March 28, 2012, 11:42 PM
I'm on the opposite end of this... My lifestyle is limiting my carry. I need to lay off the fatty foods, as the pants I would CC in are getting tighter and hard to fit a pistol in there :eek: