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parkerd
March 5, 2012, 07:55 PM
I'm in the market for a new hog/long range gun my budget is under 250$ So in your opinion and in that price range what would be a good hog gun?




-Parker

rickyrick
March 5, 2012, 08:08 PM
In your budget I am thinking Saiga. But you may get more out of a bolt gun.

parkerd
March 5, 2012, 08:22 PM
I'm open to a bolt gun if I can get it under that price.

LSnSC
March 5, 2012, 08:29 PM
Im not sure anyone makes a semi auto capable of accuracy, long or short, for under $250.
If you are willing to consider a used lever gun, $250 can get you into a used Marlin 336 30-30 which will kill hogs as far away as they need to be killed.

parkerd
March 5, 2012, 08:34 PM
I like bolt actions like I said but I need it to be compact for the swamps here and such.. I like light recoil also.

Double Naught Spy
March 5, 2012, 08:42 PM
I can't think of any semis of centerfire calibers that would be under $250. Actually, finding bolt guns with a magazine is pretty tough.

How about a Spanish Mauser in .308? Gunbroker has one for $225.

globemaster3
March 5, 2012, 10:30 PM
$250 puts you under the price point for a semi-auto, unless you find an outstanding deal or a fixer upper. An SKS might be an exception, and if you look hard, you might be able to find one there, but most I've seen on Gunbroker and locally are fetching $300.

Most guys I know can cycle a lever faster than a bolt, so a used 30-30 carbine might be the trick.

As for the bolt action, again, price point will be difficult to get a quality firearm. You might be able to find a Remington 770, which would be better than nothing, but quality is really not its strong suit.

Can you save up a little more and put the purchase off until you can get something more in line with what you want?

fast-eddie
March 5, 2012, 11:34 PM
Go check a couple gun stores/Pawn shops and find your self the rifle you line in your price range. We have some the remington 740's and 760's for sale in your price range.

plateshooter
March 6, 2012, 06:06 AM
SKS is the only rifle I can think of in your price range. I have killed both of my hogs with the 762X39 Wolf 154gr soft points. Neither of them took a step after being hit. Mine were taken in fairly thick brushy areas where 75 yards would be a long shot. As far as recoil goes, the 154gr Wolf kicks less than the standard 123 grain loads. Velocity is around 2200 fps. Both of my shots were pass through with a tennis ball size exit. Even if your budget was higher, I think the SKS may serve you well for swampy brushy areas.

TX Hunter
March 6, 2012, 07:26 AM
If you look around you should be able to find a used Remington 742 for that or not much more. If you get one in 30 06 you will have plenty of range and alot of punch.

MOshooter65202
March 6, 2012, 07:41 AM
I was at Walmart last week with the wife while she shopped I went to the gun section. I was looking at their bolt action rifles,from the three lower cost bolt actions they had on hand which were Remington 770,Savage axis,and a Mossberg.
After inspecting all three seems the Mossberg had the smoothest bolt action,barrel rifling looked really good in the barrel,and the rifle had a very good balanced feeling. The Mossberg bolt action rifle was 257.00 brand new,looked like a nice rifle for 257.00 dollars.

parkerd
March 6, 2012, 08:08 AM
What caliber?

MOshooter65202
March 6, 2012, 08:16 AM
The bolt action Mossberg I saw at Walmart I believe was a 270 win.caliber,I am not sure which model the Mossberg was?...It sure felt like a nice rifle though.

jrw69
March 6, 2012, 09:29 AM
Bought my son the Mossberg in .270 for $199 at Academy Sports. Has the fully synthetic stock so you don't have to worry about the elements, the mud just wipes right off. Any hog within 200yrds will drop right there using Hornady Superformance SST 140 gr. We have downed three with it.

If your brave and have your heart set on semi-auto, believe it or not there is a guy who hunts hogs with $169 Hi-Point .45, he takes them at 25yds max, usually around 10-15yrds from a tree.

dlb0412
March 6, 2012, 09:36 AM
Marlin 336 30-30.

tyrajam
March 6, 2012, 10:22 AM
If you're stuck on a semi auto, I think you have two good choices. Either find an old rem 740 in 30-06, or pick up a semi auto shotgun. Full bore slugs will do a wonderful job on anything in the US at under 100 yards.

If you're open to a bolt gun, I have heard good things about the new mossberg rifles, but I haven't shot one yet. Find yourself an older savage 110 and you'll have a fine, accurate big game rifle, I usually see a few for around $200 at most big gun shows.

Keg
March 6, 2012, 11:15 AM
Yes..a used 742 in 30-06....

rickyrick
March 6, 2012, 12:45 PM
If you find one, some of the old standby milsurps work good too..303 brit is a dandy hog thumper although I don't use it as often as I used too.

BIG P
March 6, 2012, 03:45 PM
I use a SAIGA-308 in the swamp works good,found it at the pawn shop used for 300.oo no problems or regrets.HECK of a hog gun.

twobit
March 6, 2012, 05:59 PM
It is not a semi-auto, but is a pump...Remington 760 ....(must buy used as they are out of production). More dependable than the 7600 which is a semi-auto. A 760 is the twin (or first cousin) to a Remington 870 pump shotgun. Available in most rifle calibers, the 760 can sometimes be found in "carbine" length which sports a 18" barrel. I use one as my hog gun, 30-06 caliber carbine, iron sights and a green laser. Get one made in the sixties and they are fine guns. $300 to $450 on the auction sites.

Keg
March 6, 2012, 06:24 PM
twobit..I got a 760 carbine in 308....I put a compact Leupold 3x9 on it and this little thing is a monster....

rightside
March 6, 2012, 06:52 PM
I'd have to agree with Dlb0412. The 30-30 Marlin is more than enough and a great gun. The mossberg ATR series that have been mentioned have a good rep also. I personally mounted a 7.62x39 upper on my AR and found it excellent for this! (I know ,wrong price range, but I love the setup). If you can step up to the Saiga 7.62x39 you won't be disappointed. They are great little brush guns, chrome barrel and more accurate than some would have you believe. They can take a lot of abuse and still deliver.

dlb0412
March 6, 2012, 07:09 PM
Whatever you do do not buy a remington 742. They call it the woodsmaster mine was a jam master. I couldnt get it to stop jamming. It would rip the back of the brass off and leave the cartrige stuck in the chamber. I sold it for 25 dollars.

jmr40
March 6, 2012, 07:12 PM
Marlin 336 30-30.

Haven't priced Marlin 30-30's in a while have you! New ones are in the $500 range, used are selling for almost as much since Marlin seems to be having QC problems with new ones. A decent Winchester 94 used is even more.

At $250 you need a bolt action. The Savage Axis is probaby the best bet. For around $300 there are several other options.

The bolt will be lighter and more compact than either a semi-auto or lever action as well. If you don't like recoil then get a 243. Plenty for hogs with good ammo.

Keg
March 6, 2012, 07:14 PM
dlb412...It sounds like U had an excellent gun..but an ammo problem....$25 really?

dlb0412
March 6, 2012, 07:41 PM
No ammo problem tried all kinds. I took it to the best gun shop around the man told me he has them come in all the time with the exact problem. He told me he could take my money and make it work for a few weeks. He said the problem would come back. I didnt want to put anyone through what i went through. So i told a guy i worked with the problem and sold it to him for 25. He said he could fix it and told me i was gon regret selling it to him. A month later he asked me if i wanted it back for 20. Do some research its very common with the 742.

rightside
March 6, 2012, 07:46 PM
The Marlin's are out there:
http://www.armslist.com/posts/325433/oklahoma-city-oklahoma-rifles-for-sale--marlin-30-30

dlb0412
March 6, 2012, 08:03 PM
I see used marlin 336s around here in the 200 to 300 dollar range here all the time.

PoorRichRichard
March 6, 2012, 08:14 PM
SKS all the way. Unless you reload, this gun should have the cheapest Wally World ammo out of all the others mentioned in this thread. I assume cost of ammo is important to you if you are looking for a semi under $250- it was for me when I bought my SKS. Next to my 22s, it"s the rifle I shoot the most.

Also, if you really want power at a low cost and are willing to go with a bolt gun, look into a Mosin Nagant with a sportster stock. Should be able to put one together for under $250, and the old Commy bulk ammo can be had on the cheap.

parkerd
March 6, 2012, 09:11 PM
I have thought about that but I would rather have a 308 because ammo is easier to find.. I can't find anywhere near me that carries 7.62x54R here..

mt1761
March 6, 2012, 10:04 PM
Marlin 336W in .30-30. Most walmarts around here have one on the rack for around $370, includes scope & strap. Unless you're after grizz you won't need another rifle.

PoorRichRichard
March 7, 2012, 01:53 AM
Parkerd

About $160-$170 for 880 rounds of the old Russian 7.62x54R:

http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/880-rounds-762x54r-soviet-com-bloc-mid-70s-production-surplus-ammo

Also try cheaperthandirt.com

L_Killkenny
March 7, 2012, 11:35 AM
I'm throwing my hat in with JMR. There are plenty of good bolt actions for $300 +/- and .243 is a great cartridge out to farther than you're gonna hit anything with.

I can tell you right now, avoid the Remington 710/770's and the Mossbergs. I know the 710/770's are crap and there are too many proven good choices to take a flier on the Mossberg.

The terms semi auto + hog + long range + $250 just don't go together in the least. They're almost a contradiction in terms.

LK

justin251
March 7, 2012, 11:39 AM
I think the mossberg uses a howa m1500 action. I know the old smith and Wesson 1500 was a rebranded howa and anewer wetherby model uses that action.

Edit: I read the last post as rem700. Ignore me.

However I think a rem 742/7400 in 308 would be a great hog gun. I like my 742.

http://img.tapatalk.com/625a2dd7-9d0c-d89b.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/625a2dd7-9d63-3cd1.jpg

Baylorattorney
March 7, 2012, 11:43 AM
I got to throw my support in for my CETME. I've nailed some pretty large hogs at a pretty good distance open sights and all, and wherever I hit them they are done for. I bought it used and years back tho. Now I understand it's over priced.


Judge a man not by the answers he gives, but by the questions he asks. - Voltaire

sc928porsche
March 8, 2012, 04:27 AM
Semi Auto for hogs and about $250.............AK47 or SKS. The 762x39 cartridge has enough power to down them efficiently. Plinking ammo is cheap and hunting ammo is readily available.

BIG P
March 8, 2012, 06:11 AM
Must disagree with above post that the 7600 is a semi auto not true.
the 7600 is a pump also & in current production, The 7600 took the place of the 760 Rem & is a pretty nice rifle Comes in 223,243 270,30-06,308
Also comes in a couple tactical mods.

I use the 270 win 7600 Myself for Deer & hog if You like the 870 pump you'll like the 7600 as well.:D

twobit
March 8, 2012, 08:59 AM
your right, my mistake. They still do have a pump and it is 7600. There is also a semi auto model 750 , I just got the model numbers mixed up. The old 760 and current 7600 are very, very similar.

globemaster3
March 8, 2012, 10:54 AM
sc928porche, let me know where those $250 AKs are at, would you? I'd like to get a couple!;)

Zen Archery
March 10, 2012, 08:03 PM
if you can get up close and personal an SKS or any gun that spits a 7.62x39 will def. take care of business.

bbq223
March 18, 2012, 11:48 AM
SKS of course!

Keg
March 18, 2012, 11:55 AM
I'm in the market for a new hog/long range gun my budget is under 250$ So in your opinion and in that price range what would be a good hog gun?


note: hog/long range gun....I really think an SKS is more 100 yardish...

HALL,AUSTIN
March 18, 2012, 02:42 PM
I have a rem 7400 in .270 and thats a heck of a gun. It has very light recoil due to its weight, which still isnt bad. Worth a look, I got mine for 200.

Stick_man
March 18, 2012, 05:15 PM
The old 760 and current 7600 are very, very similar.

I'll give a +1 on the Remmy pumps. I have a 760 in '06 that is very dependable, accurate, and fast on target. They lock up strong like a bolt gun and can be as accurate as the shooter is capable of. IMO, the pump gun is as fast cycling as the lever gun and has the added benefit of a detachable magazine. You can even get 10 round mags for them.

As far as the 760 vs 7600 goes, there is also another member of that same family... the model 76. All are the same basic design, just slight upgrades from the 76 to the 760 to the 7600. Add a few new bells and whistles and you have a new model. For a while, it seems like the 7600 was basically just a deluxe version of the 760. All are great shooters and strong enough to handle heavy loads all day long (as opposed to the 740/7400 line).

mchgnmike
March 18, 2012, 07:59 PM
My vote is for the Remington Semi-Autos. I have the Remington 742 in .30-06 and I have taken many hogs with it. Never had a malfunction and it is more accurate that it should be. http://www.securityarms.com/photos/1276102756.jpg
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rickyrick
March 18, 2012, 08:04 PM
Nice pigs!!

And I spy a partially polky dotted one.

Keg
March 18, 2012, 10:06 PM
Nice Pigs...I have the same gun..just looks a lil different....My vote is for the Remington Semi-Autos. I have the Remington 742 in .30-06 and I have taken many hogs with it. Never had a malfunction and it is more accurate that it should be.

603Country
March 19, 2012, 04:33 PM
The best semi-auto hog gun just might be the Remington Model 8 in 35 Remington. By some accounts, Texas Ranger Frank Hamer head shot Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow with one of them. But, getting past the action history, if you could find one of those old rifles, it would be just about right for hogs out to about 200 yards. And no gas system to clean. I have no clue what one would cost in this day and age.

justin251
March 19, 2012, 05:04 PM
Semi auto hog gun?

1100 or 11-87

Keg
March 19, 2012, 08:53 PM
note: hog/long range gun....

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justin251
March 19, 2012, 11:24 PM
So swap in a rifled slug barrel.

Light, tough, and can handle the elements better.

Around here hog hunting means you are in the swamp.

booker_t
March 20, 2012, 10:38 AM
You want a semi-auto to kill hogs that is light, easy to carry, with low recoil and under $250? Sorry bud, doesn't exist as far as I know.

I agree, get yourself a base-model Marlin 30-30 or .45/70 lever gun, 18" ported barrel and a big soft recoil pad.

It'll accept a scout scope, has a quality trigger and adequte capacity.

Zen Archery
March 21, 2012, 10:46 AM
7.62x39 :D SKS if you need to go cheap but KEEP IT CLOSE AND PERSONAL

Big Pard
March 22, 2012, 07:39 PM
Well the $250 price range automatic capable of long range really only leaves a used 4, 74, 740, 742, or 7400 and finding one in that price range that will cycle reliably is tough.

Wyosmith
March 22, 2012, 08:52 PM
I'd have to agree, the SKS is the ONLY one that will fall into the $250 or less range, and even that may be very hard to find. It's not uncommon here in Wyoming to see good clean SKSs sell for $400.

I'd love to find a Holland & Holland Royal in 375 Flanged, at under $3,000, but I am not holding my breath.

Or a Toyota Land Cruiser FJ 40 in perfect condition, for $1,500 or less.

You may beat me in your quest, before I find these things at these prices, but then again, you may not.

Creek Henry
March 24, 2012, 07:12 PM
Yeah, the SKS should do fine. My brother got 2. I was okay, you could hit something with it even with its iron sights. The 2nd was crap, you could barely hit a 1'x1' target at 100 yards.

I just got my fathers M1 Garand (he bought it about 5 years ago and never shot it) and I put a scout scope mount on it, a medium relief scope, a gas pressure regulator, and a padded cheek rest (due to the hieght of the scope). I put about $250 in to it all in all and I did all that so I'd have a useable hog rifle.

If I had to do it from scratch, I'd go with a Savage 116 'kit combo' from walmart - gun + scope for < $400... probably in 30-06. I don't trust cheap gas guns in any caliber.

zbones6
March 30, 2012, 09:49 AM
How about a Mosin Nagant M38, or an M44? They're bolt guns, but they shoot a 7.62x54r cartrige, similar to the .308

okiewita40
March 31, 2012, 09:32 AM
I used to have an article that said the writer preferred the sks for hog hunting. That's what I have. only paid $200 for the rifle last year. And it is good for an SKS as i can shoot it about 2-3MOA at 100 yds.

Bhane
April 22, 2012, 03:28 PM
I have a Remington 770 30-06 that I picked up at Dick's sporting goods. It is accurate and with 185 grain loads I am hitting fairly decent groupings. I too am looking for a semi auto or a lever action, but in a 30-06. I have not been on a hog hunt here in New York yet, but I am told that I should be able to take down a decent sized hog at about 100 to 200 yards with my current rifle. I am thinking that a decent sidearm will also benefit me (I am looking at a Taurs Judge) incase the animal charges.

rickyrick
April 22, 2012, 04:12 PM
Shouldn't charge, they usually beat feet as soon as they sense trouble.

globemaster3
April 22, 2012, 04:18 PM
Well, semi auto in 30-06 is pretty limited in choices. Either the Browning BAR or Remington's semi autos like the 742, 7400, and their 750.

Lever action will be the Browning BLR. I don't think anyone else built a long-action lever gun that I can recall.