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wingnut6999
February 26, 2012, 08:59 AM
i purchased a traditions 50 cal recently from a dealer. it was used ,tho maybe fired once, so i have no paperwork. i am trying to find out the age and approx value. i started by contacting traditions co. and according to them it was made before 1995. i jus recently sent them pics to see if we can narrow it down. my question in all this is any site or sugestions on how i can find a value.. this gun looks brand new and i barely paid a hundred bucks.. thanks and hope someone can help

YARDDOG(1)
February 26, 2012, 09:38 AM
Wood or Poly Stock? What length? Pics?? ; )
Y/D

deerslayer303
February 26, 2012, 09:38 AM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b7/JohnnyCharger1968/Emoticons/ThisThreadIsWorthlessWithoutPics.gif

deerslayer303
February 26, 2012, 09:40 AM
oh nevermind, its worth 125.00 at todays going rate. Do you take paypal, check, MO? :D

Pahoo
February 26, 2012, 10:55 AM
deerslayer303 + 1
Yeah, you have to help us get closer to this one before we can give you a SWAG. What you are really trying to find out, is whether or not, you paid too much. If you like it, then go with it. Y'all can also go to GB and see if you can spot it there, or close. .... ;)


Be Safe !!!

Shotput79
February 26, 2012, 03:24 PM
Waiting on pics Wingnut. :confused:

wingnut6999
February 26, 2012, 09:35 PM
i tryed to get pics with my cell but they are too big and really dont show the true beauty. as far as payin too much i think i got a dam good deal at 130.00. :), ill try photobucket to see if i can get some pics,,

wingnut6999
February 28, 2012, 01:21 PM
welli finally heard back from traditions. its a trophy model, pre1995 and retailed for $404. ill still tryin to get some pics on here. :):)

Lee McNelly
February 28, 2012, 07:21 PM
TAKING BIDS

Shotput79
February 28, 2012, 11:02 PM
I know that Traditions put out some good firearms. I have one of the older side locks that will put rd balls in the top of a pop can and out the back of the can all day long at 50 yrds. It was my first bp rifle and I never got rid of it. It's going on 30 years old. Good stuff. :p

wingnut6999
February 29, 2012, 09:42 AM
lets see if i can do this right,lol http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o529/wingnut6999/001.jpg http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o529/wingnut6999/005.jpg

deerslayer303
February 29, 2012, 10:17 AM
very nice

Hawg Haggen
February 29, 2012, 11:52 AM
Lets try them this way.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/rebel727/my%20junk/005.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/rebel727/my%20junk/001.jpg

Beagle333
February 29, 2012, 11:57 AM
That's a beauty. What a great find! (A steal for $130 bucks)

shortwave
February 29, 2012, 11:58 AM
very nice

Yes, and if the inside of bore is as clean as outside, I would have paid $130 for it also....

...too, understanding that many a fine production sidelock can be had for between $100-$200 thanks to the 'inline' explosion.

wingnut6999
February 29, 2012, 08:12 PM
thanks Hawg for getting my pics on here, Kudos to ya :)

deerslayer303
March 1, 2012, 12:22 AM
Very nice indeed but why did they make the breech octagonal and the rest of the barrel round. Not bashing your gun wing nut I was just curious as to why they made it this way. I'm not an expert maybe some originals were made like that too.

Hawg Haggen
March 1, 2012, 01:05 AM
thanks Hawg for getting my pics on here, Kudos to ya

No problem but I mainly did it cuz the angle they were on was making me dizzy.:D

arcticap
March 1, 2012, 02:07 PM
Traditions also sold a very similar model with a full octagon barrel that was called a Pioneer Rifle.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/954388209/Guns/Rifles/Muzzleloading-Modern-Replica-Rifles/Replica-Muzzleloaders/TRADITIONS_PIONEER_50_CAL_PERCUSSION_RIFLE.htm

K-Mart sold them for $179.00 before they went bankrupt.
I noticed that model pictured not only has a round barrel but also a patent breech instead of the drum that the Pioneer Rifle had.
The [schnable] fore end on this model is fairly slender and the round barrel channel would leave more wood for a stronger fore end compared to a full octagon barrel channel.
Plus the round barrel would probably weigh less than a similar full octagon since some of the metal has been lathed away.
The octagon breech would probably leave more metal for threading the breechplug. Plus the octagon section may also also add some stability and support to the barrel. The transitional octagon to round barrel is a traditional design of black powder long guns. However the octagon section of this barrel is fairly short when compared to the more traditional long guns.
The transitional octagon to round part of the barrel usually has what are called "wedding bands" which are rounded decorative rings that mark the transition. The barrel pictured doesn't have those probably because they're more expensive to lath and would add to the cost.
The Pioneer had a 28" barrel. How long is the barrel on this Trophy rifle?

orangello
March 1, 2012, 02:39 PM
That's a beauty!

wingnut6999
March 2, 2012, 06:33 PM
the barrel is also 28"

Lee McNelly
March 2, 2012, 09:15 PM
what type

deerslayer303
March 2, 2012, 10:07 PM
whoops meant to start a new thread

Hawg Haggen
March 3, 2012, 11:31 AM
Very nice indeed but why did they make the breech octagonal and the rest of the barrel round. Not bashing your gun wing nut I was just curious as to why they made it this way. I'm not an expert maybe some originals were made like that too.

That's not a rendition of anything historical but a lot of original guns were like that.