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deerslayer303
February 22, 2012, 10:37 PM
Didn't want to hijack the other thread. So how many of you actually think the squatch is real? I'm inclined to think so. The mountain gorrilla wasn't discovered until the 1960's I think it was.

nate45
February 22, 2012, 10:44 PM
Of course he's real, unless its a bot making his internet posts.

1hogfan83
February 22, 2012, 10:45 PM
I think these guys have too much time on their hands. The one show I watched all the way through they were examing some police dash cam. The dash came was REALLY hazy and the cam they were using was high tech. They judge on the fact that it couldnt be duplicated. Call me stupid but if you have ever seen the movie ELF, when he's walking through central park, it looks alot like those big foot tapes. For the longest time scientist said that the crop circles couldnt be made in one night and it had to be a of E.T's. People are just bored. The funniest part is one they try to replicate its CALL. How in the world do they know what it sounds like?

deerslayer303
February 22, 2012, 10:53 PM
lol @1hogfan. It is funny how all the footage is ALWAYS hazy and pixelated. But it could be out there, I guess, the pacific northwest has alot of wilderness. I'm downloading the first few episodes of finding bigfoot right now. And I might even watch my old movie the legend of boggy creek. I refused to go hunting one morning with my dad when I was younger cause I had watched that movie the night before LOL

1hogfan83
February 22, 2012, 11:03 PM
Im gonna go get a gorrilla mask, cover in all black and sit on my buddies shoulders and make a movie. My step sisters boyfriend is a state trooper. I bet he'll help!!!! Its on video, its gotta be real!!! Then after they come investagate and say, theirs a squatch in these woods! Im going to say, you idiots I made that myself.

fatwhiteboy
February 22, 2012, 11:26 PM
Of course Sasquatch is real. He's in commercials on TV!. Right?

warbirdlover
February 23, 2012, 12:02 AM
Another poster in the other thread made some good points about why there aren't any... no road kills, none ever shot, in all these years. I tend to say there are none. But there are aliens! :D

frigate88
February 23, 2012, 12:45 AM
Of coarse he's real. Havent y'all ever seen Harry and the hendersons.

johnmcgowan
February 23, 2012, 12:49 AM
Another poster in the other thread made some good points about why there aren't any... no road kills, none ever shot, in all these years. I tend to say there are none. But there are aliens!


There sure are ! Legals and illegals, LOL:eek:
You can bet your sweet pippy that all the sasquatches that have been in hiding all these years are going to been seen coming out of the woodwork and popping up everywhere now that we have started talking about them.
Be watching the local news where you live for the reports soon.

Oh yeah, I saw Elvis today too. Really, I did. He was driving one of those little shoebox sized hybrid smartcars, mumbling something about how he couldnt afford gas for his Cadillac anymore. Thank ya, thank ya very much.

Zach W.
February 23, 2012, 03:14 AM
I hope they are out there and man never discovers them.

rickyrick
February 23, 2012, 05:42 AM
Art must be on vacation LOL....

While new creatures are discovered all of the time, I think a primate of that size would be too curious and would be dumping out trash cans after it discovered the joy of pizza.........especially New York pizza.

Art Eatman
February 23, 2012, 06:44 AM
The deal is that when a family group moves, one of them is detailed to work with his leaf rake and broom to erase all the tracks. That's why the mysterious thefts at night from Home Depot or Tractor Supply.

I've never seen the True Believers address the issue of in-breeding in a very small population. That problem existed among the crowned heads of Europe, Rome and ancient Egypt. Serious goofiness ensued. Hey, hunt up the lyrics to Tom Lehrer's "Oedipus Rex".

ClayInTx
February 23, 2012, 07:56 AM
I live close by the Texas Big Thicket and am surrounded by thousands of acres of forest. Some is new growth and some is old; I have had trees downed by hurricanes and the rings indicate 150 years old. The undergrowth is yaupons and these makes a tangled mess; a tropical jungle is an open freeway compared to here.

This tangled mess of yaupons was what caused the problem of recovering wreckage of the Columbia space shuttle. Go over it or around it but not through it.

There have been reports of Sasquatch here for many years.

Sasquatch? One guy has a picture but it looks “gorilla like” to me.

I’ve seen “something” which I have no idea what it was except it looked like a gorilla. Scared the hell out of me and the cat as we were sitting on the porch one night. Me and the cat got ourselves inside the house.

I suspect an escaped gorilla is wandering the Big Thicket. But I’ve seen no notices asking for anyone to help find their gorilla which got out of the house and ran away.

Anyone out there missing their pet gorilla?

I suppose I should check with Lowes or Tractor Supply about any missing rakes and brooms.

Rifleman1776
February 23, 2012, 09:15 AM
I have a friend, very intelligent guy, retired surgeon, who firmly belives they exist.
I don't. Most of the fuzzy sightings have been proven hoaxes. Even the famous film was revealed to be a prank by the, now elderly, pranksters. But 'believers' still use it as a basis for proving, to themselves, Bigfoot exists.

jager.30-06
February 23, 2012, 09:31 AM
finding bigfoot is ridiculous, i dont know if they are serious on that show or what but i would rather spend my time hunting, cleaning some guns, getting layed or posting on this forum!:D

Dino.
February 23, 2012, 09:53 AM
The show "Finding Bigfoot" kills me. :D

The "researchers" on this show knock on trees, hoot and hollar "squatch calls", and lay out things they claim entice the Sasquatch. On one show, they left a crying baby doll in the woods claiming that it would attract the curiousity of the Sasquatch.

They seem to know a LOT about something that has never even been proven to exist. :D

1hogfan83
February 23, 2012, 10:14 AM
I dont think they're in the wild but my wife is from southeast missoura and after the last family reunion, I do believe they exist! I'm glad I was packin, If I woulda had a laser it would have been set on stun. Speaking of roadkill, I have hit some rather questionable things. And again, speaking of interbreeding, the family reuni...............nevermind.

RevGeo
February 23, 2012, 10:15 AM
I have lived in the nether regions of the Pacific NW all of my life - Oregon, Washington, Idaho and Montana. Spent lots of time working and playing in the woods. I have never seen a Sasquatch or any sign of one.
However, I have talked to several people who claim to have seen them. And some of those people are definitely not the kind of person who is going to pull somebody's leg about something like this. I have talked to several superannuated Native Americans who will tell you outright that Sasquatch is real. A few of them believe that they are possibly extinct now, but have no doubt about their reality.
There have been just too many reports to just shrug this off, IMO. I don't think this is a matter of 'belief'. All I know is that several people I have known who have nothing to gain (and probably a lot of credibility to lose) have quietly told me their story or the stories they were told by their elders and they seemed very serious. Usually the subject would come up as a joke by someone during a barroom conversation or while playing cards or fishing or on break at work.
I am not a Sasquatch researcher and I really don't have that much interest in the subject and I'm not saying they exist (or existed) or that they don't (or didn't). All I'm saying is I have been quite surprised at the stories I've heard over the years from people who you'd think would be the last kind of folks to claim to have seen a Sasquatch, for God's sake.
Just sayin'...

Double Naught Spy
February 23, 2012, 10:27 AM
Didn't want to hijack the other thread. So how many of you actually think the squatch is real? I'm inclined to think so. The mountain gorrilla wasn't discovered until the 1960's I think it was.

The mountain gorilla analogy is a bit spurious. The mountain gorilla has undoubtedly been known to locals for thousands of years, but was not known to westerners until 1902 (not the 1960s).
http://www.gorilla100.com/30-Discovery.html

Along those lines is the argument that people have long histories going back in time at least several hundred years that bigfoot creatures exist, just like the locals in Africa knew about the mountain gorillas. This is another spurious argument. There are groups around the world that believe humans can turn into animals, but just because a bunch of folks have a belief that can be documented over a wide area doesn't mean the belief is true.

I've never seen the True Believers address the issue of in-breeding in a very small population.

Right, primates need approximately 500 individuals to have a viable population to prevent serious inbreeding.

Grover Krantz, the WSU professor who was a huge proponent of bigfoots made a lot of cryptozoologists mad when he said that the only way the scientific community and the rest of the world will ever actually believe that these exist is for someone to bring in a body. Lots of hunters have claimed to shoot one, but either the animal gets away or the body is abandoned for various reasons. Given all the folks that have shot them, I can't believe that NONE have ever brought one back as a trophy.

It would be cool if they existed, but countless people have looked for these animals over the last 100 years and have produced 0 confirmed results. Believers go way out of their way to convolute reasons why they 'known' them to exist, but strangely always lack the one simple thing that would unequivocally prove their existence, a body. It is a very simple criterion, yet seemingly impossible to produce.

Pbearperry
February 23, 2012, 10:31 AM
If Bigfoot does exist,why is it that remains of one of these creatures have never been found?

AJG
February 23, 2012, 12:04 PM
They havent found Jimmy Hoffa yet have they? And he's real!

Logan9885
February 23, 2012, 12:20 PM
Its funny to me that with all the super high def. cameras and video cameras we have today, its always the crappy cameras that record grainy videos that get the "Squatch" on film. Seems to me IF there was a real one someone would eventually get him with a high def. camera that could be better studied. The "squatch" always seems to be way off in the distance too..........?

shortwave
February 23, 2012, 01:04 PM
While new creatures are discovered all the time, I think a primate of that size would be to curious and be dumping out trash cans after it discovered the joy of pizza....especially New York pizza.

Last pizza I got in NYC was so nasty, bigfoot wouldn't eat it. He(bigfoot) would have taken one bite of it, slapped the owner of the pizza place for calling that hunk of garbage pizza and threw it in the trash.
If I ever catch a bigfoot, I'm taking him to that same pizza shop and we'll film a 'messing with Sasquatch' pizza video. I hope Mr. Sasquatch thumps my $30 out of him.:mad:

Todd1700
February 23, 2012, 01:27 PM
We have groups of scientists that go out to some of the most remote and uninhabited regions of the world and routinely locate and relocate time and time again small pockets of endangered or nearly extinct insects, frogs, rodents, Lizards, etc, etc. Yet some people find it feasible that a 7 foot tall 400 lb primate could exist in genetically viable breeding numbers in one of the most populated and well explored countries on the globe for hundreds of years without so much as a single bone being found. It's laughable folks. LAUGHABLE!

Mainah
February 23, 2012, 02:00 PM
We have groups of scientists that go out to some of the most remote and uninhabited regions of the world and routinely locate and relocate time and time again small pockets of endangered or nearly extinct insects, frogs, rodents, Lizards, etc, etc. Yet some people find it feasible that a 7 foot tall 400 lb primate could exist in genetically viable breeding numbers in one of the most populated and well explored countries on the globe for hundreds of years without so much as a single bone being found. It's laughable folks. LAUGHABLE!

For example: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/21/science/four-new-species-of-tiny-chameleons-are-found-in-madagascar.html

I went backpacking in the Cascades a few years ago, deep in prime bigfoot country. I was out in the middle of nowhere. Yet I saw a few other hikers, and on my drive back to Seattle I saw thousands of cars full of people who were heading into the woods to hike, kayak, hunt, etc... And I'm sure that most of them had phones they could shoot a picture with.

Bigfoot is a myth.

deerslayer303
February 23, 2012, 03:19 PM
The Squatch lives in the center of the earth and only comes out ever so often when the earths crust opens up to let them out LMAO!! This thread is really comical. fun stuff

nate45
February 23, 2012, 03:57 PM
The link below is definitive proof, if not of Sasquatch, then its proof the creator licked the wrong postage stamp.

http://www.larrycarlson.com/flashmovies_sasquatch_fullscreen.htm


Edit: I'm certain either the above video, or the Six Million Dollar Man vs Sasquatch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N65Ro8i6Ic) episodes prove Sasquatch is real.

Wyoredman
February 23, 2012, 04:03 PM
When I get one, I will post pictures here on TFL first!:D

Single Six
February 23, 2012, 04:06 PM
As has already been said, where's the actual proof? A dead Sasquatch, for starters. Verifiable video, perhaps. As soon as I am shown definitive, unquestionable proof, I'll believe in them.

Nitesites
February 23, 2012, 04:25 PM
It's as real as you want it to be? I joke...But seriously, you ever meet up with one, ask him where can someone find a RFB in stock.

Mainah
February 23, 2012, 04:29 PM
When I was a kid growing up in Pennsylvania there were a series of bigfoot/ufo sightings. I'm not making this up: http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Invasion-Pennsylvania-UFO-Bigfoot-Casebook/dp/0966610830

Imagine being seven and reading about this stuff in the paper. Pittsburgh Magazine reacted with a joke cover that had an illustration that portrayed hundreds of sasquatches leaving ufos downtown and invading the city.

That issue arrived in the mail the same day that my parents decided to try leaving me home alone for a few hours for the first time. I was too young to realize that the magazine cover was a joke, I assumed that it was real news. I spent that afternoon under my bed with my dog and a baseball bat.

Double Naught Spy
February 23, 2012, 04:30 PM
We have groups of scientists that go out to some of the most remote and uninhabited regions of the world and routinely locate and relocate time and time again small pockets of endangered or nearly extinct insects, frogs, rodents, Lizards, etc, etc. Yet some people find it feasible that a 7 foot tall 400 lb primate could exist in genetically viable breeding numbers in one of the most populated and well explored countries on the globe for hundreds of years without so much as a single bone being found. It's laughable folks. LAUGHABLE!

At <88 people per square mile, the US is hardly one of the most populated countries in the world. Washington State, home of the bigfoot, only has about 101 people per square mile which is still a pretty low population density compared to much of the world.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0934666.html
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/53000.html

We do have a lot of people, but we also have a lot of area. So I am not so sure that the human population count necessarily supports that we should have seen a bigfoot, or if it does, it is a weak point. These various other reasons are much better.

If Bigfoot does exist,why is it that remains of one of these creatures have never been found?

Bigfoot experts (how can you be an expert in something not proven to exist?) will argue that the bigfoot is a forest creature and that bones do not remain for very long in the woods, getting scattered and destroyed by several means and they note that you don't find the bones of other animals in the woods. I love this argument since I have spent the better part of the last 25 years involved with studying and identifying animal remains from archaeological sites. Everything that happens to the skeleton from the time of death of the animal and until recovery is called taphonomy. While a carcass may be scattered about and some bones destroyed, sometimes even all the bones, often is the case that bones are not readily destroyed. Where there are numerous destructive factors/agenst at work, there are a number of protective agents/factors at work as well.

My guess is that these 'experts' probably either do not spend much time in the woods looking for bones or fail to realize that things are often hidden from site under a layer of leaves. Put another way, they are not going about the process of seaching in a manner that is likely to yield results.

Also what I like about their argument is that while bones and teeth, the hardest and must durable parts of an vertebrate's body are supposedly NOT preserved well according to bigfoot experts, they continually have recovered hair and blood samples that they note cannot be identified and are evidence of bigfoot. I find it amazing that something as perishable as blood gets found hundreds or thousands of times more often than bone. Hair preserves better than blood, but is also quite perishable.

To keep this discussion hunting related, according to his bit of research, bigfoots are reported to be killed about every 4 years, which is much more frequently than I would have thought, yet in every case, the proof if the kill is abandoned, buried, destroyed, or lost. If you read carefully, you will see that there is even one guy who has managed to shoot 2 bigfoots, each one in a different state. The rest of us don't hardly get a chance to see any and he shoots 2. Amazing.
http://www.bigfootlunchclub.com/2011/05/humans-shoot-and-kill-bigfoot-on.html

Art Eatman
February 23, 2012, 08:09 PM
The consensus of this thread and several previous threads on this subject is rather uniformly, "There ain't no such critter."