PDA

View Full Version : Hog Arsenal


camper4lyfe
January 19, 2012, 09:40 PM
So my dad has this wild idea that he wants to go hog hunting for his 60th birthday, after falling in love with the show "Hog Wild." This poses an interesting conundrum. First of all being that he hasn't hunting anything bigger than a squirrel in over 30 years. Secondly, he doesn't own anything other than a .22lr, and a 20ga. Thirdly, he wants to take my brother-in-law and myself. We are in the same situation, aside from us both hunting regularly. I have a .22-250 and a 12ga. To the best of my knowledge, my brother-in-law doesn't have anything other than a 12ga and a 17HMR.

What would be a recommended gun for a hog hunt? I know we could use the 12ga with slugs. I also know that some of the requirements will be based on the setup and location of the hunt (woods vs fields). What would you suggest for a gun for a hog hunt? I doubt we'd go out and buy anything, but might be able to borrow a couple rifles if needed.

Doyle
January 19, 2012, 09:46 PM
Where in NY are you going to find pigs (other than Queens of course :D).

camper4lyfe
January 19, 2012, 09:56 PM
Well, there are reports of feral hogs in NY recently.

However, we'd most likely end up in PA doing this.

Lee McNelly
January 19, 2012, 10:00 PM
txboars.com

mete
January 19, 2012, 10:14 PM
Yes there are some pigs here but go to a preserve .Make sure everybody practices a lot first !!

Don't put down NYC for hunting .They just found a possum in the subway [scared the cops , train evacuated ,wildlife people had to capture it !! :rolleyes: ]. Coyotes and other creatures have been found in the city too ! :)

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/18/nyregion/in-brooklyn-suspicious-passenger-with-a-tail.html?_r=2

BIG P
January 19, 2012, 11:00 PM
Any good Deer rifle would work just fine.Imo a good fast action in the swamp,
or a good bolt action in the field.Dont know about NY.But anything from 223-300mag works here.

hogdogs
January 20, 2012, 12:40 AM
Reports and viable populations are apples and oranges... You could have a few herds here and there that will manifest in many reports.

That said...

No gun needed if you get him on a dog hunt. No guns needed...

Brent

cheyenne'sfinest
January 20, 2012, 01:01 AM
sounds to me like 3 guys need hog rifles, and anyone who hunts hogs will tell you to get 3 pretty well put together and maintained sks's. cheapest to practice and shoot with, cheapest to accessorize, and best of all cheapest to buy 3 of.

Saltydog235
January 20, 2012, 07:13 AM
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=pig+sticker+knife

rickyrick
January 20, 2012, 08:31 AM
Within the proper range and proper shot, anything in .223 or better will work.


Dragging a dead pig further than fifty yards can be a demanding task, depending on size.even the smaller ones. So unless you can get the chosen DPTV LOL (dead pig transport vehicle) (just made that up) near the dead pig, don't shoot them to far away.


A wounded pig will run to a bush, or similar device, and hide. They can scrunch down amazingly low with the jaw flat to the ground, you can walk right by them and not see it.

camper4lyfe
January 20, 2012, 08:32 AM
Reports and viable populations are apples and oranges... You could have a few herds here and there that will manifest in many reports.

That said...

No gun needed if you get him on a dog hunt. No guns needed...

Brent

There's enough that the DEC has released a statement saying to shoot on sight, with any means necessary, in any numbers, at any time of day. They're coming up across the PA border.

Double Naught Spy
January 20, 2012, 08:46 AM
What would be a recommended gun for a hog hunt? I know we could use the 12ga with slugs. I also know that some of the requirements will be based on the setup and location of the hunt (woods vs fields). What would you suggest for a gun for a hog hunt? I doubt we'd go out and buy anything, but might be able to borrow a couple rifles if needed.

12 ga slugs out of a smooth bore shotgun barrel are probably best at distances 50-75yards or less just because of accuracy issues, which for hunting in the woods may be much more range than you will need. The same for the 20 ga. The .22-250 should work fine.

Dragging a dead pig further than fifty yards can be a demanding task, depending on size.even the smaller ones. So unless you can get the chosen DPTV LOL (dead pig transport vehicle) (just made that up) near the dead pig, don't shoot them to far away.

LOL, we drug a 130 pounder only about 100 yards and it had us winded pretty good. It would have been easier to carry it over my shoulder, but then I would have been all bloody. Pedestrian dragging of pigs is not efficient at all.

camper4lyfe
January 20, 2012, 08:50 AM
12 ga slugs out of a smooth bore shotgun barrel are probably best at distances 50-75yards or less just because of accuracy issues, which for hunting in the woods may be much more range than you will need. The same for the 20 ga. The .22-250 should work fine.

You really think the .22-250 would work? Obviously I'd need something in the 55gr+ range, correct?

Both of our 12ga have rifled barrels, so the range is a bit more than 50-75, though I wouldn't go much past that just because it gets hard to see out that far.

TX Hunter
January 20, 2012, 08:58 AM
If your hunting hog with dogs, and are gonna dispatch a bayed hog, a .22 Rifle is perfect, because you wont over penetrate and hit the dogs.

If you still hunting from a blind or tree stand for hogs with no dogs, any good deer rifle should work fine. Good Luck.

rickyrick
January 20, 2012, 09:03 AM
The 22-250 to the neck should drop them on the spot

Hog Buster
January 20, 2012, 12:48 PM
Anything that will kill a deer will work fine on hogs. Just remember to shoot them in the right place........Close to the road.

Saltydog235
January 20, 2012, 01:14 PM
Just remember to shoot them in the right place........Close to the road.

Or a ditch. Buzzards gotta eat too. Dang nasty vermin as far as I'm concerned.

Missionary
January 20, 2012, 01:16 PM
Greetings
I would not hessitate to pop a hog with a slug but not a BIG piggy with a hollow Forester type.
I prefer round ball in my 12 guage double. Did some penetration experements some years ago as the standard hollow 12 bore slugs were bouncing off the neck armor of large crocs. Round ball will outpenetrate a hollow slug about 3x. So anyway if I was gonna try for a 300+ pounder I would want a solid body slug or a roundball in my barrel. 12 guage Roundball was a common elephant thumper for many years (although considered minimal).
So anyway small piggies are not anything hard to hurt permenantly. A .22 through the ear cannel will do them in.. But I would go with the 12 bore if that was all that was available knowing it will be enough gun by far.
Mike in Peru

Double Naught Spy
January 20, 2012, 03:30 PM
Just remember to shoot them in the right place........Close to the road.

The nice thing about CNS shots is that the hogs usually drop on the spot. In my experience, when hogs do run after being shot, they almost never run closer to my truck or into a nice open and well manicured pasture. They seem to like to run into the densest woods with the most briars and poison ivy or down into the creek bottoms, either way making locating and extracting unpleasant.

Close to the road would be fine.

PigFarmer
January 20, 2012, 03:43 PM
with anything from a .243 win to an SKS to a .308 to a 7 mm mag to .450 marlin depending on if the freezer is empty. Most anything that will take a deer will take a hog.

Art Eatman
January 20, 2012, 06:55 PM
Since there is the possibility of borrowed rifles, I go along with the previous comment that most any deer rifle will do just fine.

MarkDozier
January 20, 2012, 07:39 PM
Y'all don't know pigs. 7.62 x 39 work OK. But there is a reason they have hi-cap mags.
The best darn pig gun ever made - 30-30 lever gun.

Irish B
January 21, 2012, 03:15 AM
Go down and get a mosin for $90. 7.62x54 with 200gr soft points is more than enough for even the biggest pigs.

Double Naught Spy
January 21, 2012, 09:39 AM
Y'all don't know pigs. 7.62 x 39 work OK. But there is a reason they have hi-cap mags.

Yes, that would be for combat.

whip1
January 21, 2012, 04:39 PM
Here's my prefered weapon
http://www.sniperblowguns.com/images/boarspear.jpg
or maybe this?
http://www.sniperblowguns.com/images/cstrench.jpg

cheyenne'sfinest
January 21, 2012, 10:20 PM
sks mag holds ten rounds and a chinese sporter holds five with a more comfortable stock... also about a pound or two lighter of a gun

bshefa
January 24, 2012, 06:04 AM
If all you have and all you can get is a 22-250, by all means use it. I have killed a few with one but it isn't my first choice.

I agree with the post above about the 30-30 being a great hog gun. A used Marlin can usually be found for a very reasonable price. For some reason people have decided there is gold in the action of the Winchesters. :rolleyes:

This may be an excuse to move into larger more powerful rifles. Any .270, 30-06 or .308 will bring down even the largest boars around here without much trouble.

Mausermolt
January 24, 2012, 12:49 PM
best pig gun in my opinion is a M1 Garand. 8 rounds of whoop arse in rapid succession. anything semi auto 30. cal is pretty darn good

Daryl
January 24, 2012, 01:04 PM
I doubt we'd go out and buy anything, but might be able to borrow a couple rifles if needed.

Well, as some say, beggars can't be choosers. And as some above have said, any competent deer rifle will work fine.

I'd imagine 30-30's are common in your area of the country, and it'd work fine.

Daryl

hoffbill
January 25, 2012, 08:03 PM
The ideal gun and caliber will vary depending on the habitat, hunting style, day or night and personal preference.
At our place here in TX we shoot them on sight with what ever we have on us at the time. 270 Win with 150gr SST is my weapon of choice, as many have said, a 223 or 22-250 will kill one, but bullet choice and shot placement have a smaller margin of error, as none of us want any animal to suffer. As far as recovery, its true, buzzards gotta eat too. I prefer a young female 100 to 150 for table fare. I hang them from the tractor loader, peel them enough to bone out the hind quarters and remove the backstrap. That's most of the good meat on a feral hog quick and easy, into the cooler or refrig immediately. It will smell better than store bought pork. I make breadfast sausage or mix with venison for summer sausage and salami. Depending on how fat they are, it may be necessary to add some store bought butt or shoulder or beg the butcher for some pork trim.
Good hunting and be safe.
These feral hogs can be dangerous especially if you wound one without incapacitating it. We trap quite a few and when you come up to the trap they are usually trying to bust out the side of the trap--on your side!

JACK308
January 26, 2012, 09:35 AM
the 45/70 has to be one of the best calibers for hogs 350 cast lead.

OkieGentleman
January 27, 2012, 11:57 PM
Not to advertise another forum (I am a member of both) try The High Road Forum. But beware, the reading is so interesting you might not be able to put it down. The thread is about 30 months old and has over a 1000 posts and some of the best photos I have seen of feral hogs both dead and alive.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=449721

Ruthless4christ
January 28, 2012, 12:13 AM
Y'all don't know pigs.

ok, not sure how many pigs you have shot buddy. telling someone to take a accessorized, high cap sks into the bush as the rifle of choice for wild hog makes me think not many. reminds me of the tactical shopping cart.

phil mcwilliam
January 28, 2012, 04:31 AM
Take your 22-250, the 12G & borrow a "deer rifle". That way all bases covered, & you can swap between yourselves.
From the late 1970's to mid 90's a group of mates & I use to regularly travel 10 hours drive west of Sydney, Australia where we knew a wheat/sheep farmer & had roughly 30,000 acres to cull pigs on in the Walgett area.
On our best trips we would get over 50 pigs. For many years all we had were a couple of .222's & a 22-250. Seemed to work ok for us.

458guy
January 30, 2012, 10:04 PM
I like a 44 mag for pork getting that or my bow.

mete
February 1, 2012, 08:19 AM
Of course you could use the new Winchester pig ammo -only one shot needed ! :D

Saltydog235
February 1, 2012, 09:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBS8vFCRQkY&lr=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzQU0O9J1uk&feature=related

hogdogs
February 1, 2012, 10:12 AM
Salty... That is just "how we roll..." :D

Those are about as representative of my terrain around here...

But I didn't hear any "WAIT-A-MINUTE"s or "DAMMIT"s which are both names for local thorn vine varieties...;):eek::D

Brent