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Jim March
January 17, 2012, 12:30 PM
http://www.mossberg.com/images/Mossberg_Guns/930/New/41026.gif

:eek:

http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=31&section=products#

CWKahrFan
January 17, 2012, 12:45 PM
Wow... Now I realize that it's 2012 and we're actually in a different century. The future is here now. Thanks for posting.

TDodge7
January 17, 2012, 12:55 PM
And here I thought the Stoeger double defense was the height of tacticool uselessness

http://www.reedssports.com/Sites/reeds/Image/catimages/stoeger-double-defense.gif


....who is this 30-30 for? Ranch Ninjas?

WAYNE109
January 17, 2012, 01:06 PM
that mossberg looks :confused:really crappy.............

overkill0084
January 17, 2012, 01:15 PM
They won't sell many, it will get discontinued quickly & In 20 years it will be a rare, collectible oddity.

bedbugbilly
January 17, 2012, 03:12 PM
Boy . . . these will set the gun world topsy turvy. :D

Just another piece of junk that will appeal to the younger set who fantasize about playing Rambo . . . .

I agree . . . they won't sell many . . . .

jh9x18ky
January 17, 2012, 04:36 PM
To me, all these Tacticool guns and a lot of new vechicles look like they are made using Duplo blocks. If you like em, thats fine, but I will stick with my Old Mod 94 and my 336.

NoSecondBest
January 17, 2012, 04:57 PM
I always wondered what happened to the engineer who developed the Aztek for general motors. Now I know.

chasep255
January 17, 2012, 05:13 PM
Thats one of the more pointless items I've seen.

DrLaw
January 17, 2012, 05:19 PM
Ugly.

The Doc is depressed by the waste now. :( (and oh yeah, out now, too) :cool:

SurplusShooter
January 17, 2012, 05:24 PM
I can understand a synthetic stock if you don't want to scratch it or have water damage to your stock or just plain old saving weight. But his has gone to far and looks ridiculous. The lever gun is a symbol of america and our heritage this is disappointing things i have seen mossberg make by far.

Hardcase
January 17, 2012, 05:27 PM
I thought it was a joke when I first saw it. Now I'm thinking that it's a practical joke.

surveyor
January 17, 2012, 05:51 PM
but the mvp looks interesting...

CWKahrFan
January 17, 2012, 06:24 PM
Yo guys... IT'S JUST AN ALTERNATIVE!... We can still buy the traditional woodstock ones... Jeesh... What, are we supposed to be buying and driving Model A's or Model T's too because they're a symbol of America and our heritage?

Hello-o-ow... Sometimes things change...

Fingers McGee
January 17, 2012, 07:53 PM
You have got to be $#!{{ing me

Please tell me this was a photoshop prank, please !!!!!!

Jim March
January 17, 2012, 10:23 PM
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/img_6268-tfb.jpg

Source:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/01/18/mossberg-tactical-464-spx-lever-action

Doesn't look photoshopped...

There appears to already be a term for this sort of thing: "Brooklyn Assault Rifle".

:p

shootniron
January 17, 2012, 10:26 PM
^^^ Does that guy work for Mossberg?:confused:

mrgoodwrench76
January 17, 2012, 10:41 PM
If it comes in wood without the flash supressor, Id buy one. The Marlin gets lonely :(

jimbob86
January 17, 2012, 10:43 PM
That thing has a rail ever-where but where it needs one!

arcticap
January 17, 2012, 10:45 PM
Maybe there's folks in Africa or South America who might like it.
Hopefully Mossberg will sell some of them worldwide.
Mossberg also sells a tactical over/under that looks similar to the Stoeger.
It's a very solid shotgun that's made in Turkey by Kahn whereas the Stoeger is Brazilian.

SHNOMIDO
January 17, 2012, 10:47 PM
i have to second, third, or fourth, whatever were up to-

No rail on top?

I guess you could use three lasers. thats kind of the same as an optic.

dalegribble
January 17, 2012, 10:49 PM
wow.......thats making a sows ear out of a silk purse!

musher
January 17, 2012, 10:54 PM
Hello-o-ow... Sometimes things change...

yeah, it's called entropy.

I'm pretty sure we're here to fight it...

arcticap
January 17, 2012, 10:59 PM
Here's the Maverick HS-12 and it's built like a tank.

http://www.slickguns.com/product/mossberg-hs-12-maverick-tactical-ou-12ga-2-choke-blued-39398

The top sight rail is grooved which allows for aiming.

gyvel
January 17, 2012, 11:03 PM
What an absurdity.:rolleyes:

abelacres
January 17, 2012, 11:10 PM
Hardcase I think you meant "Tatical Joke" :D

Different strokes for different folks but I'd laugh my what little behind I have off if I saw someone with that.....

They should have called it the Gecko30/30

arcticap
January 17, 2012, 11:17 PM
These guns do have some similarities with American western style guns except with some modern innovations.
They're new generation guns that are loosely based on traditional American gun designs.
It's just like how black powder shooting progressed to modern cartridges and then smokeless powder.
It's simply the evolution of western design for the more modern cowboys. :)

tmlynch
January 17, 2012, 11:59 PM
I am not wild about the buttstock on this thing, but the fore end does capture at least mild interest from me. It may look non-traditional, but it does address some needs that people have in the real world (and not just in urban zombie hunting threads).

I have been thinking about a lever action .30-30 as a pig rifle lately. All well and good, except that sometimes hunting feral hogs happens at night. I can buy a Marlin with a rail on top, which makes a great place to mount a scope. It is not a good place to put a light; it would block the sights.

Suddenly Mossberg has a rifle on which I could easily mount a light (and a laser and a Picatinny thermos). That is progress and then some.

My quibble is that it doesn't go quite far enough. The problem: No rail on top for a scope! ;) At least it is still possible to mount one on the receiver.

Regards,
Tom

teeroux
January 18, 2012, 12:36 AM
My eyes they burnnnnnn!

deerslayer303
January 18, 2012, 01:16 AM
ummm uhh yeah, I'm not quite sure what to think about that thing! I love my lever guns, but I will have to ponder that one for a while.

deerslayer303
January 18, 2012, 01:29 AM
Oh wow I was lookin around Mossbergs website and I found the 802 with a BARRET STYLE MUZZLE BRAKE hahahah OMG And the .22 tacticool lever gun has a muzzle brake on it too LOL

B.L.E.
January 18, 2012, 06:35 AM
That gun fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
But that's just my opinion.

Mike Irwin
January 18, 2012, 06:56 AM
Looks like it's ready for a starring role in Cowboys and Aliens.

Sport45
January 18, 2012, 06:56 AM
Too bad Hornady doesn't sell Zombie Max ammo in .30-30....

abelacres
January 18, 2012, 07:38 AM
They already do Sport45

http://www.targetsportsusa.com/p-3221-hornady-zombie-max-30-30-winchester-160-grain-z-max-ammunition.aspx

Marlin should include a box.

Gehrhard
January 18, 2012, 07:46 AM
Geez, you guys are making me feel bad and I am thinking of returning mine now.
:(
;)
I created regional blackpowder shoots from camping sites to retail prizes and Model 94's were the latest arm I'd accept. This'd be allowed. Model ...22 has no flash suppressor and looks alot more traditional. Now we just need, and I'd seriously consider one in, different calibers... .357 Maximum... .22 Mag... Nice light, indestructible, relieable, truck and field gun, no?

abelacres
January 18, 2012, 07:56 AM
Lol sorry Gehrhard you know we don't like folks changing classic lines

I'm sure there is a market for it but I can't think of one. Though the truck gun thing may have merrit....

Stephanie B
January 18, 2012, 08:22 AM
I just threw up in my mouth.

My fear is that if I bought one of those things, the holy ghosts of John Wayne and Gene Autrey would come in the night and beat me into a coma.

:D

dalegribble
January 18, 2012, 09:03 AM
you can put fat tires and mags on a model t but it still won't be an indy car.

the lever action rifle was the first assault rifle, it is still as viable in its original form today as it was then. unfortunatly or fortunatly there have been improvment in firearms technology, better bullets, longer range shooting, semi and full auto rifles. folding butt stocks, fiberglass stocks, picatinny rails and hanging gadgets all over isn't going to turn it into an m4. john wayne didnt need lasers and refex sights, all he needed was a large loop lever.

treg
January 18, 2012, 09:47 AM
Laugh all you want but for many folks, both abroad and right here in the USA, this may be the best they can legally own. THINK before you vote, and encourage others to do so, or we'll all be in the same boat or worse.

jimbob86
January 18, 2012, 09:54 AM
That gun fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
But that's just my opinion.

More like "Fled blindfolded through the Forest of Ugly, and ran full tilt into every trunk at least once."

Legionnaire
January 18, 2012, 05:08 PM
Looks like a prop from "Wild Wild West" or "Serenity." Likely to go the way of the Remington 7615 and 7600P, I'm afraid.

Gehrhard
January 18, 2012, 08:59 PM
I'm holding out for the folding stock and PGO versions!
.357 Max, Mag, .38 Spcl. in the truck or trunk, I'm tellin' ya!

Crosshair
January 18, 2012, 10:17 PM
Sweet, a factory threaded 30-30. No need to send it off to get threaded and have the front sight moved back. Is the threading 5/8x24 RH and good for cans?

Legionnaire
January 19, 2012, 10:15 AM
Y'know, on second thought, black powder cartridges probably wouldn't be too healthy in an AR. But they might be just dandy in that monstrosity! Can you see some cast boolits in front of holy black? ;)

prob
January 22, 2012, 02:21 AM
The folks over at Mossberg must think that people will buy anything as long as there is a tactical cachet attached to the product.

This gun makes some of the new monstrosities peddled by Rossi/Taurus look like classic beauties.

Hawg
January 22, 2012, 03:14 AM
wow.......thats making a sows ear out of a silk purse!

That about sums it up.

rshanneck2002
January 22, 2012, 06:50 AM
It took me 10-15 yrs to get used to basically plastic being put in and on bolt actions and pistols such as the glock,but this? really? Like the guy said earlier, it hurts the eyes when you first see it. No way would i buy this rifle in such a format,Marlin 336 all the way if i ever do buy one. In wood. Man this only proves to me one thing., i am getting old and the US is truly building junk. I hope the guts of this rifle are better. AR-15 yeah, 30-30 dont think so. Wood is beautiful.

Andy Griffith
January 22, 2012, 03:59 PM
^^^ Does that guy work for Mossberg?

Looks a lot like a feller that used to work at the S&W shooting sports center in Springfield some years ago.

All joking aside, they're just slapping things at the wall to see what sticks (or in their case...sells), which is what any good company needs to do. There is a lot of competition in the marketplace, and they are trying to get some $$$ from the fastest growing crowd in the US- the "under 30" generation X that has grown up with video games which have guns that don't make sense, but just might sell to a non-traditional crowd. After all, fellers the age of what I think the majority of us on here are- aren't buying much right now, but that is subject to change according to the outlook on the election.

TX Hunter
January 23, 2012, 02:30 PM
It does look funny but i would have loved to have that adjustable butstock when i started my kids Deer hunting. I had to cut a good stock to make it fit.

twobit
January 23, 2012, 03:24 PM
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

I can hear my 117 year old Winchester model 1892 laughing from within the gun safe.... and it is at home 35 miles away from here!

Gehrhard
January 23, 2012, 08:01 PM
You are the same guys who laughed at improvments over the Volcanic. Were dismayed when a shirt manufacturer bought them out. You knocked a forearm on the Henry. Cried when they added the King's Patent loading gate. Thought centerfire cartridges and smokeless powder were a fad. Were disgusted by a vertical bolt lock and high-pressure cartridges. Thought angle-eject was a perversion. Optics on a lever were sacrilage to you.

You are all old fuddy duddies but Mossberg and I, we are forward looking.

;)

TX Hunter
January 23, 2012, 08:09 PM
I wonder if you could buy the colapsable butstock as an option ? No guys Im serious, Ive got to start getting ready for Grand Kids, in the next several years. I love the 30 30 cartridge as a first Deer Rifle, and if I can adjust the buttstock thats a plus, then when the kids are done playing with it, I can return it to normal. :) Ohh, dont look at me that way, Im not gonna mount a flashlight on it.:D

tmlynch
January 23, 2012, 08:12 PM
Ohh, dont look at me that way, Im not gonna mount a flashlight on it.

With no flashlight on it, how will you see the hogs at night?

Regards,
Tom

TX Hunter
January 23, 2012, 08:42 PM
Good point, HMM, Mossberg may be on to something. :D

Hawg
January 23, 2012, 09:03 PM
You are all old fuddy duddies

And damn proud of it. Angle eject is a perversion and optics are sacrilege.:D

Dr. Strangelove
January 23, 2012, 10:38 PM
Bwhahahhaha!

Mossberg must have lost a bet with Winchester.

Gehrhard
January 24, 2012, 09:15 PM
When's the first "space movie" this'll appear in?
As for buying the rear as an aftermarket product, I don't know what other guns it may fit than a Mossberg, but, knowing Mossberg the "replacement part" will not be available separately for many months.

Hawg
January 25, 2012, 05:19 AM
All the steam punk kids oughta like it.

Gaucho Gringo
January 27, 2012, 09:33 PM
Mossberg makes this same rifle in traditional wood and blued steel. I personally prefer the traditional model. If I was hunting in conditions like the people in the History Channel's program "Swamp People" I would want a composite stock and durable non rusting finish on the metal parts. For this kind of use it is too bad they don't make a gun like the old Remington Nylon rifles that came out in the 60's. I thought they had all the appeal of a day old roadkill, but they could take abuse that would leave a normal rifle a pile of rusting junk and still fire. I would hope the firearms world is big enough for all kinds of guns to be accepted.

Gehrhard
January 27, 2012, 11:24 PM
I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony... Da da da daaa...

Hawg
January 28, 2012, 05:22 AM
I would hope the firearms world is big enough for all kinds of guns to be accepted.

Nope, not that thing. Not in my world anyway.:D

Double Naught Spy
January 28, 2012, 12:36 PM
Looks like a great little hog or varmit gun to me, but seems to be missing the top rail for optics or night vision. Having a stock that you can adjust means being able to make the gun more compact when you need it to be or stretched out when you need it to be. A full draw length stock can be cumbersome in some stands and more difficult to use from some prone positions where a shorter stock would be more beneficial. It can be hard to hold a light in one hand and run a rilfe in the other when night hunting.

XS Sights had announced a tri-rail for the Marlin 1895 a few years ago, but it never made it to market and I was disappointed.