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bjones870
December 25, 2011, 11:50 AM
Ok, so this morning I got a Remington 700 .308. It was beautiful in the box, weighted awesomely. Then I tried to rack the bolt. It was the roughest, most gritty bolt I've EVER tried to use. It was terrible. Then I lubed it, oiled it, the whole nine yards. It's a little better, but no where near 700 quality. What's the deal? Does it need break in? More lube? What? Ive had a 700 before, it was 1,000 times better. Help PLEASE!!

warbirdlover
December 25, 2011, 12:24 PM
My 700 SPS Buckmasters was silky smooth right out of the box. But before I buy a rifle I check these things out. I'd take it back to the dealer and demand a different one.

ndking1126
December 25, 2011, 12:29 PM
Man, that's a bummer!

What model is it? BDL? CDL? SPS? You might try taking the bolt out and seeing what you can find inside the action. Does it feel rough to your finger?

It will probably get better as it's broken in, but I doubt it will get anwhere near the silky smoothness we expect from our older 700s without some help from someone who can polish them. That's just my guess, I've never had this problem before.

Pictures are never a bad thing.

the rifleer
December 25, 2011, 12:30 PM
If its gritty its because there is something in there, so clean it THEN oil it. Hopefully it smooths up.

Picher
December 25, 2011, 12:43 PM
You can best remove grit by using a dry old toothbrush inside the action. You might want to use 000 steel wool or very fine grit emery paper on rough action spots and on the bolt.

Use a thin layer of gun grease on bolt surfaces instead of oil.

bjones870
December 25, 2011, 12:44 PM
I looked all inside the chamber, breech, everything, and I can't find a single thing wrong. It's the SPS, 24", black with grey accents. It's a gorgeous gun, the bolt is terrible on it though. My dad got it for me for Christmas, so I never got to hold it until we were at the house haha. Like I said, my old 700 was so smooth it basically chambered itself haha. He got it from a local pawn shop, and ordered it
from Remington. I hope they can fix it, or order me a new one. I don't know what to expect, I'm just super bummed. Merry Christmas to you guys! Thanks for helping.

Sweet Shooter
December 25, 2011, 02:09 PM
My 700 has a slightly Parkerized matte texture on the bolt which makes it feel rough. I say it doesn't matter a damn. I don't sit there swiping the bolt back and forth, that's not what it was designed for. Put some decent grease on the rails like Tetra and call it good. I don't consider it a Rem 700 problem.

I have a Howa 1500 which had a bolt finished like a mirror and was slippery smooth to swipe. It is now rubbed from use and shows rotation wear.

Both these guns shoot very small groups.

Bolts are not supposed to work like pistons in cylinders they are bolts and as long as they lock that's all I need.

-SS-

shurshot
December 25, 2011, 02:23 PM
I would relax, clean out the packing grease, oil it and work it (the bolt) a bit. Any new (or like new) gun I ever got is stiff. Levers, bolts, falling blocks, etc., they all have metal rubbing on metal, and need time to break in. They take TIME to break in. Take it out and shoot a few boxes through it. And as already mentioned, if it locks up tight and shoots accurate... who cares if it's a bit stiff? We are talking about bolt action rifles here, not front door locks or brake pedals.

mrawesome22
December 25, 2011, 02:44 PM
It is the lowest priced 700 they make...

EDIT: The SPS stock should be all black. Sure it isn't used?

Colorado Redneck
December 25, 2011, 04:18 PM
My SPS Varmint has a rough bolt throw too. Isn't a big deal. Just kind of a "fit and finish" issue. Compared to the Savage, CZ, Ruger, and Winchester the action just feels "unfinished."

As advised, clean and lubricate and go shoot. The issue for most shooters is: How does that thing shoot?

If it shoots good, forget it. If not, try the usual "tune up" routine.

Remingtonfan
December 25, 2011, 04:30 PM
Hey Colorado Redneck,

As you might guess I am new here. So could you point out references or tell me what the tune up routine is for a Remington 700.

I ask because I am buying the SPS version pretty soon.

WWWJD
December 25, 2011, 05:02 PM
Mine was a little rough starting out; parkerized parts. It'll smooth out after a couple hundred rounds. No worries; you're group sizes will more than make up for it IMO. :) Merry Christmas!

warbirdlover
December 25, 2011, 05:05 PM
There is usually no "tune up" needed. Took mine out of the box, cleaned it, set the adjustable trigger to 3 lbs., mounted and bore sighted the scope and went to the range. Three shot 3/4" or less groups at 100 yards. I think there's guys that say to glass bed them, do a trigger job or replace it, and on and on. Maybe some need it but mine sure didn't.

RockRiverWhisper
December 25, 2011, 06:06 PM
Lapping compound on the lugs will work it smooth as ????????????

bjones870
December 25, 2011, 06:50 PM
Here's a picture of the rifle:http://http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps.aspx

Idk how to post pictures, hopefully that link works. But the part on the forend and the part right behind the trigger, that looks like little "cut outs" in the stock, are grey. They're black on Remington's website. Did I ever get an SPS? What's the deal? The bolt is terrible, if you don't push it PERFECTLY straight when you go to chamber, it hangs up and wont move at all. My brothers $330 mossberg is twice as good as this 549.99 rifle. What's up? I'm starting to doubt this is even an SPS.

AllenJ
December 25, 2011, 06:59 PM
It sounds to me like Remington quaility control let one slip through they should have sent back. I'd take it back, Remington has always done me right in these cases. I picked up an SPS in 7mm Rem Mag and did not have any problem with it, bolt works very smoothly.

warbirdlover
December 25, 2011, 06:59 PM
I'm going to relate a story. I knew a guy at work years ago who had a Federal Firearms License and he ordered a Remington 700 BDL 7mm Mag for me. I know he didn't order it right from Remington but from someplace else. The gun came in and the first thing I noticed was the blueing on the bolt handle looked brown! Terrible. Then when I fired it it wouldn't group worth a damn and would only chamber Winchester ammo and NOT Remington! I took a fired case, rotated it 90ยบ and it would not re-chamber. It had an out-of-round chamber! This was in the 70's and it was junk. He was a small time dealer so I just traded it. I think there are places that get ahold of factory second rifles and sell them cheap. And I think that's what happened in this case. I'll bet the store didn't order this rifle from Remington. My two cents worth.

misterE
December 25, 2011, 07:01 PM
I'd send it back to Remington. My sps was a little grittier than my dads early 80s adl. But after a couple hundred rounds they are almost identical. By a little gritty, I mean you could just barely notice the difference and I chalk this up to the parkerization or whatever.
Merry Chritmas.

mrawesome22
December 25, 2011, 07:05 PM
Your pic just comes up as a ? on my phone.

Does it look new?

No scratches?

No visible wear and tear?

No offense to anyone, but the few pawn brokers I have dealt with have been some shady characters.

And I think that's what happened in this case. I'll bet the store didn't order this rifle from Remington. My two cents worth.
Yeah, when the gun store orders a gun, they order from another middle man, which orders large quantities of guns from the manufacturers, that sit in a warehouse until a gun shop orders them.

Ridgerunner665
December 25, 2011, 11:36 PM
Its that rough as a cob finish they use...

Take some red ScotchBrite to it....the bolt body, not the lugs...also to the bolt raceway (where the bolt slides back and forth through the action)

Its just one of the many "gone cheap" gripes against Remington...

warbirdlover
December 26, 2011, 12:05 AM
Then why is my new SPS silky smooth? This rifle is not the norm.

oneoldsap
December 26, 2011, 07:59 AM
Clean the snot out of it , apply a little lube including the rear surfaces of the locking lugs , then work the bolt while you're watching TV for a few nights and you'll have your silky smooth bolt !

wingman
December 26, 2011, 08:25 AM
As advised, clean and lubricate and go shoot. The issue for most shooters is: How does that thing shoot?

I agree: Lets see how she groups and worry about gritty bolt later which is all part of the off the shelf modern rifle.

tahunua001
December 26, 2011, 08:58 AM
it will probably smooth out over time. using my mom and dads 700s for a lot of my formative years, I have not been overly impressed with the grittiness out of the box of these newer 700s. cycling and lubing would eventually smooth out surfaces and streamline your bolt.

Colorado Redneck
December 26, 2011, 02:52 PM
I was referring to the usual "tune ups" for any rifle that isn't shooting fairly good groups.
1. Check to see if the barrel is touching the forearm. If so, clean the channel out to prevent that by sanding the areas that are touching. Some say a composite stock like the one on the SPS doesn't create accuracy issues, but I don't agree. If you can't slide a dollar bill down the barrel between the barrel and the forearm, work on the channel.
2. Adjust trigger pull. My SPS did not have an adjustable trigger, and it ended up wearing a Timney trigger that works great. The factory trigger was not good--creepy and heavy pull. Be aware the if you change the trigger, and you send it to Remington for factory work, they will take the tigger you send to them off and replace it with one just like it came with and charge you for it. Thank the lawyers for that little goody.
3. Check action screws to be sure they are torqued correctly.
4. Scope mounts and rings.
5. Try various loads to see if the firearm likes something from the factory. Or if you handload (and just loads of fun and time involved) try various loads to see what shoots good.

Heck I dunno--I ain't no expert, and only get things right by trial and error, but mostly by luck. :D

TX Hunter
December 26, 2011, 03:21 PM
I would not put lapping compound on the Lugs, because that will effect headspace.

csmsss
December 26, 2011, 05:34 PM
I would return it for another rifle. No need to have to spend a lot of your own time and effort in what might still be a futile effort to smoothe the bolt throw. Though it may not affect the rifle's functionality, a smoothly cycling bolt is part of why you bought the rifle and something you paid for. Not saying it should necessarily be as smooth as ice over glass, but it should definitely not be rough, stiff or gritty.

ronl
December 26, 2011, 11:54 PM
Clean it and shoot it. Be sure to clean out the lug recesses well. Do not oil or apply grease to the bolt body. I use moly grease and a q-tip. Apply a light coating to the lugs and the rails the bolt rides on. I am talking light coat as in you wipe off any excess whatsoever. The bolt on my SPS is smooth as silk. Check the bolt to make sure it's straight. Be sure you clean out the receiver very well as there are often bits of metal that are not easily seen. I always take my new weapons apart and clean them, especially triggers, then lightly oil and reassemble.