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TheKlawMan
November 21, 2011, 08:57 PM
Does anyone have any tips for breaking in a new o/u? It is a Citori XS Skeet if that matters. I don't have it yet but it may be in tomorrow and should be in this week.

To begin with, is there anything to know about getting that big ass sticker off of the barrels? I already read some archived posts on greasing pivot points.

zippy13
November 21, 2011, 09:10 PM
Big ass stickers are typically susceptible to WD-40, but I'm not sure about B-guns -- it may be a low tack adhesive.

.300 Weatherby Mag
November 21, 2011, 09:13 PM
Rich,

Clean all of the preservative out of the bores... Pull the choke tubes out and apply the anti-seize of your choice.. Then grease the pivot points before reassembling..

TheKlawMan
November 21, 2011, 09:19 PM
Thanks Zippy and Weatherby. I want to take whatever I need to prep it when I go to pick it up and hit Prado on the way back home. I betcha it would be in on Thursday if not for those Pilgrims.

rtpzwms
November 21, 2011, 09:24 PM
What .300 Weatherby Mag said +1

Slugo
November 21, 2011, 09:58 PM
it just attracts dirt particles and accelerates wear. Use easy to apply CLP like Breakfree or Shooters Choice CLP. Easy to apply and very easy to wipe off. I've been using CLP on all critical contact points since 1993. My guns still look and act like new. I wouldn't even use grease on a Stoeger!! LOLOL...

hopper810
November 22, 2011, 08:29 AM
Probably should also pull the stock and get any shipping gunk out of the trigger group as well.

I like using good ole Mineral Spirits. It's cheap and doesn't dry out the metal like Gun Scrubber and other similar products.

What's worked for me is I get a small coffee can set the trigger assembly in it and pour enough in to cover the mechanism and let soak a few minutes. Slosh it around some and then use compressed air to blow it dry,may do this twice. then a LIGHT coat of remoil and a hit it again lightly with the air.

YMMV:)

jaguarxk120
November 22, 2011, 09:12 AM
The grease is applied to the hinge piviot points. the grease is renewed when the gun is assembled and usually wiped off when the gun is cased.

BigJimP
November 22, 2011, 11:46 AM
Typically - because Brownings have been in the distribution chain for awhile from Japan ....there is a fair amount of preservative on the receiver hinge area / the forend lock and inside and outside of the barrels...

To pick it up ...and shoot it on the way home:

a. Just take the gun apart ( don't take the stock off ) and just spray it with WD-40 and run a swab thru the barrel and wipe the gun down with a soft rag or a soft paper towel.

b. I'd check the chokes - ( first of all make sure they're in the gun ) ...but I'd take out the chokes and have some Break Free with me....oil the threads inside the barrel / and on the choke and run the chokes in and out 4 or 5 times...until they seat with just finger pressure ( finger inside the choke to put it in and out --- not a choke wrench). But if they're tight when you pickup the gun ( in the small box of parts - with the extra trigger shoe, etc / there should be a wrench ).

c. I'd grease the lug and the ears - at the end of the receiver where the barrels lock into the receiver / and the lug on the underside of the barrel - where the forend locks into the barrel. I use just a little bit of "Rig Grease" on my finger tip ...and apply it ( not too much ). If you don't have grease - or don't want to use it - then use Break Free ...but just a little.

d. Once assembled - spray the gun all over with WD-40 again ...and wipe it down again. The sticker on the barrel - does not have real aggressive adhesive on it, in my experience, so it'll just peel right off.

and then go put 10 boxes thru the darn thing....( boy, my hemmeroids feel better !!! - this has been a long process !! ) :D ...dragging you up and down this hill, on this decision, has been tough .../ but fun ...:cool:

and no matter what ...have some fun !!

oneounceload
November 22, 2011, 12:44 PM
1- WD40 the sticker off, then wipe down with the oil of your choice
2- Use a degreaser on everything, then wipe down with the oil of your choice
3- DO use grease on the hinge pin, knuckles and the choke tube threads
4- go shoot and enjoy new gun

;)

TheKlawMan
November 22, 2011, 01:23 PM
Okay. Now if the gun only shows up at Bass Pro. I will take my cleaning stuff with me and give it a pretty thorough cleaning at the range before shooting and better when I get it home. I only called three times yesterday to see if it was there. (I am not really obnoxious. The first two times I called the vault guy wasn't there and he never called back after 4 hours.)

I didn't ask but was wondering about removing the stock like Hopper suggests.

oneounceload
November 22, 2011, 01:43 PM
Mineral spirits will dry out the wood - so use judiciously. There will be enough cleaners at BPS to choose from if you do not already have them.

The reason my Browning is wearing a replacement stock is because I thought I would remove it after 6 or 7 years. The bolt was Loc-tited and using a lot of force cracked it through the wrist - so I do not bother doing that anymore; then again i do not live in the rain like BigJim does either

hopper810
November 22, 2011, 02:21 PM
Mineral spirits will dry out the wood - so use judiciously



Guess I should have been clearer. The stock,forearm and bbl's aren't attached. So just the receiver and trigger group are soaking.

Sorry for any confusion:o

BigJimP
November 22, 2011, 03:11 PM
I would not remove the stock right away ...its better done / in the quiet of you're shop at home ...and not "quickly" ...since you probably have not taken the stock off too many O/U's ...

For a Browning O/U - you need to remove the recoil pad ( there are 2 screws set down into the rubber ) ....and with an adj comb ...you need to remove the adj comb ...then using a supplied long allen wrench ...loosen the stock bolt.

For a gun without the adj comb --- you need about a 12" long screw driver ..and you need to file the tip of the screw driver to fit the slotted bolt head holding the stock to the receiver. but again ...slowly...

Browning has a tendancy to get the bolts really tight ...sometimes too tight...there might even be some blue locktite on some of them. If the screw driver or allen wrench don't fit very tightly you risk tearing up the bolt head ...and if you don't hang onto the stock real tight ( in a good soft towel ) ...its possible to even crack the stock at the head where it goes into the receiver... so this needs to be done "Carefully" and with " Patience" ...its not a place where "bigger hammers work better"...:eek:

Its easy to remove the stocks ...and yes, it needs to be done ...and clean and lube the actions inside ......( but there rarely is much preservative inside the actions on Browning O/U's / and I've bought several new Browning O/U's over the years). But yes, in general - I remove my stocks on all 15 or so Browning O/U's I have - if I shoot them at all ...twice a year.

But, if I don't shoot that gun ......guns that I've taken stocks off of ...and they're sitting in the safe for one of the kids / grandkids down the road ...as long as I'm confident there is no condensation in my safe ---then I won't take them off again until I'm ready to service them before I give them to one of the kids.

I take the stocks off my guns whenever I shoot them in heavy weather -- to thoroughly dry out ...so a rainy or snowy day in the field / or a sporting clays tournament or whatever... dry them out, clean them / and lightly oil them ( Rig Oil or Rem Oil ) ..and very light on the oil ...no oil running .../ lube the stock bolt ...( and clean the bolt - and the receiver where the bolt goes ) ...and put the bolt back in "snugly" but not overtight. Do not get a pair of vice grips or something on the screw driver or wrench ...just snug it up / and give it a "touch more" ....you don't want it to loosen upon firing / but I've never had one do that...

But don't do it this week .../ even I wouldn't remove the stock if I bought the gun and took it to the range the same day .../ I'd do it after I got home from the range. I'd have a pair of snap caps with me tomorrow --- and test the firing pins.../ but my hunch is, everything will be just fine...

TheKlawMan
November 22, 2011, 03:18 PM
Sounds good Jim. I have some snap caps that I was going to take with me to test the firing pins before accepting the gun from the dealer and the part about removing the stock at home where I have the time to do the job with patience makes sense.


Why is my family upset that I plan on going shooting Thursday if the gun doesn't come in until late Wedenesday or early Thursday?

oneounceload
November 22, 2011, 03:33 PM
Because, being Thanksgiving, the stores and clubs might not be open?.......:p

TheKlawMan
November 22, 2011, 04:50 PM
Because, being Thanksgiving, the stores and clubs might not be open?.......

Details, details.

oneounceload
November 22, 2011, 05:01 PM
Well, the only one that matters is the club is most likely closed - the rest is all minor stuff - you can eat turkey any time anyway, and relatives? Who wants to spend a whole day with them when there might be things worth shooting at, like clays?????....................:D;)

BigJimP
November 22, 2011, 05:56 PM
Just hand throw some clays off the back porch ....you'll be ok / of course don't call me for your bail money either ....:D

243winxb
November 22, 2011, 06:45 PM
You new firearm will come with an owners manual. This will tell you what to use on it & how to clean it. Great shotguns, have a GD6 12ga. & Gd3 three barrel skeet set. Have owned the Charles Daly Miroku shotguns also, same as a Browning. read the manual here > http://media.browning.com/pdf/om/08-406citori.pdf C l e a n i n g Part s with Speci a l F i n i s h e s
Be especially careful when cleaning guns with camouflage, Dura-Touch®
Armor Coating and other special finishes. Always prevent these surfaces
from coming in contact with cleaning solvents, barrel scrubbers and
other strong chemicals. It is preferable to clean these surfaces with a
light gun oil containing no solvents, or with a damp cloth and mild dish
soap (be sure to keep water out of the action). When cleaning your
firearm’s bore and action, protect the external finishes from any contact
with chemicals used. Also, avoid any contact between external finishes
and other strong chemicals like those found in DEET-containing insect
repellents, sunscreens, etc. Damage to camouflage, Dura-Touch and
other finishes caused by chemicals is irreversible and not repairable. CLEANING
Various exposed metal parts of your new firearm have been coated at
the factory with a rust preventative compound. Before assembling
your shotgun, clean the anti-rust compound from the inside of the
barrel, receiver and the action/chamber areas. A high-quality
lightweight gun oil is ideal for removing this compound, and for
giving your new firearm its first lubrication. A heavier oil or grease is
recommended to lubricate the hinge pin to prevent possible galling.
Clean the barrel using a cleaning rod and patch as explained under
“Cleaning and Maintenance Suggestions” on page 23.

TheKlawMan
November 22, 2011, 07:11 PM
Thanks 234winxb. You had no way of knowing that I pulled a .pdf off the internet and already read the parts about cleaning a new gun. Unfortunately, many never to turn to that most basic resource; the owner's manual.

BigJimP
November 22, 2011, 07:55 PM
Using gun oil to remove the preservative ...is less than satisfactory in my view..../ and WD-40 used to work way better than it does now ( because the propellant in WD-40 up until about 15 yrs ago was "propane" ...up until the late 1990's ...) and now its just C02 ...but it still works ok..../ and better than oil ... ( but some of us old cheap guys / still have a can of the "good ole stuff" with propane in it, laying around...)....

From WD-40's website ....
" .... I've heard that people use WD-40 as a cleaner/remover. What can it be used on?
WD-40 removes sap, tar, adhesives, labels and tape from surfaces without damaging existing paint. It's an effective cleaner for tools, equipment, and vehicles. Use it to remove splattered bugs from the front of cars. WD-40 will even help remove gum from carpet. Just spray, wait, and wipe with a clean cloth........
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When I was a kid....and it still had Propane in it ....we used it as a "starter fluid" into the carburetors on old trucks in the winter time..." ...but we were young and stupid ..../ when it had Propane in it, as a propellant, there were people that got hurt spraying it into live elec switches like on home clothes dryers, etc...cans exploding, etc..../ but with CO2 that is no longer an issue...

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and WD-40 claims ...."
While the ingredients in WD-40 are secret, we can tell you what WD-40 does NOT contain. WD-40 does not contain silicone, kerosene, water, wax, graphite, chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), or any known cancer-causing agents.
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so I use a lot of it ...on the outside of my guns..../ shotguns and handguns...and then wipe them down...

At Costco recently - I even picked up a 12pak of WD-40 in small 4oz cannisters ...easy to throw in a gun bag / gun box..../ and a little can in the car / and one in the shop,,,,,

TheKlawMan
November 22, 2011, 08:42 PM
Just hand throw some clays off the back porch ....you'll be ok / of course don't call me for your bail money either ....

This is Orange County, California, and we don't do things that way. We don't have back porches so we launch them off the roofs.:eek:

Crap, I got a phone call and have to drive out to the Bass Pro, when Prado is closed.

goldduster
November 23, 2011, 11:14 PM
I hate to be the bad guy, but I notice you are in California which requires a 10 day waiting period before you can receive you gun and I also believe that BassPro adds an extra day to be extra safe and not lose there license. The 10 days would begin when they receive it and file the proper report online.

Hope I'm wrong in your case, but :(

TheKlawMan
November 23, 2011, 11:44 PM
Goldduster; DROS was commenced the day I ordered it even though there was no serial number. You are right about Bass Pro having you wait until day 11 to pick up, even though many dealers allow you to pick up after 10 24 hour days have passed. BPS like Big 5 Sporting has you come in on day 11 to avoid a problem if an employee releases a gun before the 240th hour expires.

I got lucky for once and the gun came in on the 11th day after I entered DROS.

TheKlawMan
November 24, 2011, 04:11 AM
I would rather be lucky than smart, but sometimes you have to make your luck. I found out from Browning when it was due to receive a new shipment of XS Skeets and then got a guy at a Bass Pro to go to bat for me to get their buyer to special order one of the few unspoken for guns in that shipment. Bass Pro normally will only order guns in its corporate inventory. Something like that. Where I was lucky was finding the guy that would figure out a way to order what they weren't supposed to be able to order.:)