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sevensixtytwo
November 5, 2011, 11:31 AM
My cousin has a pardner pump and the spring extractor/ejector snapped on the second bend closest to the rivet holding it on. Apparently this is a ~$100 job by a gunsmith + the part cost. so what I'm thinking of doing is basically sewing the two pieces back together with thin wire. I know it's a bad idea. but for the price of doing it the right way, he can almost just buy another one.

Goatwhiskers
November 5, 2011, 12:24 PM
Ain't gonna work. Get it fixed correctly. This is what happens when you buy cheap Chinese imports under the mistaken impression that you're saving money by the purchase of imports over good American craftsmanship. I don't allow that junk in my shop. Goatwhiskers

mpd61
November 5, 2011, 01:42 PM
Hell it's an 870 Clone, gotta be a bit cheaper than that to fix!?!?:confused:

sevensixtytwo
November 5, 2011, 02:07 PM
Goatwhiskers:
I've got a tristar made not in America that I bought for $100 otd new. It has thousands of rounds through it and is still tighter than the American made mossberg 500 I have. You must have hardly any guns that you sell in your shop if you only sell American made stuff, including Hipoints and Bryco/Jennings/Jimenez pistols.
But that's beside the point.

Everyone else:
The labor is what costs so much. I can't find the part, will have to order direct from the manufacturer. It's either riveted in or press pinned in. I'm not sure. Apparently that part HR only sends to gunsmiths though.

Goatwhiskers
November 5, 2011, 07:02 PM
For what it's worth, I neither buy nor sell. I only repair, and I don't do Bryco, Davis, Jennings, etc. Won't let junk in the door. My point is buy American and you don't see so many jobs going overseas, never to return. Goat

sevensixtytwo
November 5, 2011, 10:17 PM
You still need to repair American made firearms eh? If they were so good, you would be out of a job.

TheKlawMan
November 5, 2011, 11:54 PM
Yeah. American firearms need repairs, even the millions of 870's and 1100's sold by Remington, many of which are still working great after 50 years service. As for American made Harrison and Ricahrdon shotguns, I have a 1905 that still works, even thought it should have a new firing pin and it admittedly is a PITA to replace. How long did the Chinese made Pardner last?

I think the part you need replaced is an ejector spring and it is held in place by a type of riveting called staking. I am not sure but think someone is hosing you if they are quoting $100 for labor. If you replace it see if a Remington part will fit.

Dave McC
November 6, 2011, 08:27 AM
Remington style ejectors are riveted in, either the factory or a good gunsmith should be involved. Once the ejector is replaced, the finish needs to be redone in the area.

One of the reasons I'm not fond of the various and sundry clones is the frequent lack of warranty service centers and the universal lack of parts.

Perhaps a Remington ejector and spring can be used, but it's probably gonna cost more than that $100 to fix this.

Sorry I have no better news for you....

jmortimer
November 6, 2011, 10:50 AM
Due to the fact that it is an 870 clone, the Remington parts should be remove/replace deal. Gun is imported by Remington/Private Equity Company and factory service is performed by Remington.

TheKlawMan
November 6, 2011, 12:22 PM
What Dave McCormack said about the difficulty of repacing that spring is what I believe a Remington armorer once said, including the need for bluing. I don't recall exactly what kind of metal finish is on the Pardner but I don't think it is acutal bluing. I know my 870 has something else. I believe they call it staking, the technique for riveting, and it has to be done with care.

How old is your cousin's gun, anyway? It should have a two year warranty.

sevensixtytwo
November 6, 2011, 03:25 PM
It's definitely not blued. I don't know how old it is, but I think it broke due to user error.
From the manual in the portion about breaking it down and putting it back together:
WARNING: Do not fully cycle the
action, as this can cause the ejector
to break

This might have been what happened.
I don't even know if he'll care about the finish, a dollop of krylon might be just fine if he feels that he wants it refinished. It's not like it is a $400 gun. I haven't looked real close at the 870 but I'm sure the spring is the exact same. I'm not a fan of the design personally.

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February 1, 2012, 03:35 AM
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Lee Lapin
February 1, 2012, 12:57 PM
Try it and see if it will eject a fired hull when the bolt is run briskly to the rear without the ejector spring in place. My 12 ga. Pardner has the same sort of 'step' in the ejector that the 20 ga. 870 does, and the 20 ga. has no ejector spring.

Won't cost anything to try it... and if it works reliably that way...