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meeko51
October 28, 2011, 08:22 AM
I am looking to buy a new shotgun and needed some opinions. I am currently shooting a Rem 870 express magnum (never had one issue love it). But it has a wood finish and is getting beat up in the duck blind and boat. Also, it only has a 3 in chamber. I am looking for a gun with a synthetic finish 3 1/2 in chamber and is reliable. My problem is I was looking into a semi-auto and wanted a remington bc i love mine so much. Well last week me and 3 friends were in the blind all 3 where shooting rem semi-autos two 11-87 and one spr-453( i know not made by rem but they put their name on it) both 11-87 had fail to ejects then stopped cycling shells period both guns are within 2 years old. The spr-453 failed to cycle 3rd shell most of the day then failed to fire and it is only 1 and a half years old. Is this just a random chance 3 remingtons same blind 3 different owners all fail. Opinions on what to buy I am thinking somewhere in the lines of pump after that incident and have looked at stoeger p350, benelli nova and supernova, and rem 870 super magnum.

oneounceload
October 28, 2011, 08:28 AM
You do not state a budget
A very reliable semi to consider is the Beretta A400 series - handles light target loads to 3.5" uber loads - but it isn't as cheap as a pump

meeko51
October 28, 2011, 08:36 AM
Sorry about that budget is prolly no more than $600

oneounceload
October 28, 2011, 08:58 AM
then look at the Beretta 3901 - wally world, Cabela's and others
do not remember if it is 3 or 3.5 but it is about 600 and is a very good semi for the money

meeko51
October 28, 2011, 09:10 AM
the beretta 3901 only has a 3in chamber i am looking for something thats can shoot 3 1/2 in steel in the late seasons of duck hunting

BigJimP
October 28, 2011, 10:52 AM
In your budget range - the most gun for your money will be a pump gun - there are lots of synthetic stock options out there / but a good soft sided case will prevent damage to a gun in the boat - synthetic stocks can get beat up too if you smack them into things. You might just want to sand the stock on the gun you have --- put a few coats of a good varnish / verathane on it ...and just use a good case in and out of the blind and the boat, etc.

Browning BPS is my pump gun of choice ...and they have some camo options like this one ...that list at around $ 900 - but they're selling for under $ 800.

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=011B&cat_id=012&type_id=257&content=bps-mossy-oak®-break-up®-infinity-firearms
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Browning also has a semi-auto the silver series ---that is their entry level gun and in a 3 1/2" its around $ 1,000 - so affordable for 3 1/2" guns in general.

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=020B&cat_id=011&type_id=384&content=silver-mossy-oak®-break-up®-infinity-firearms.

I know its more than you want to spend ....but its a solid gun for the money.

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Benelli has some options on semi-autos for you ...and they're very good guns - but just not in your price range.

http://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/index.php?specs

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The lower end semi-autos / especially the gas guns need a lot of maintenance if you expect them to be reliable - but the Rem 11-87 and 1100 have been solid guns for a long time ( but I don't know what they have in 3 1/2" )... I'm not a big gas gun fan - but the 11-87 or the 1100 can be 100% reliable if they're cleaned, lubed and maintained properly after every trip in the field. Its not inherent in those models - to not run.

oregunner
October 28, 2011, 12:22 PM
How about getting a synthetic stock set for the gun you have now. Check out the Cabelas website. I know it's not as much fun as shopping for a new gun, but it might just reinvigorate the one you have. Mark

BigJimP
October 28, 2011, 12:51 PM
Jack West's company makes a good synthetic stock ...for the 870's, the 11-87's and the 1100's ...

but since your gun has a 3" chamber - that won't get you where you want to go either...

oregunner
October 28, 2011, 01:03 PM
For a hunting gun, you probably don't need a JW $200 stock. Cabelas $69. Mark

BigJimP
October 28, 2011, 02:03 PM
I had no idea Cabelas has some replacement stocks for $ 69 - that's good to know !

meeko51
October 28, 2011, 09:09 PM
My gun is being refinished right now just dont want to take it back out mess it up again would rather get a new gun for duck hunting and just use my 870 for deer hunting... I was just looking for some opinions on the benelli's nova and supernova, 870 super mag, and some of the other guns around my price range incase i missed some in the price range that fit my criteria.

upstate81
October 29, 2011, 06:15 AM
Have you looked at the remington 887 pump. It shoots 3 1/2 shells and comes in a camo pattern has a weather proof finish on it (forgot exact name). This is a good pump and is in your price range

Ricky Bobby
October 29, 2011, 09:21 AM
I think you should look real hard at the new Mossberg Flyway series of shotguns! The series includes magnum pumps & auto-loaders for whatever your price range may be. They're made specifically for what you're needing. Mossbergs are a good, hard-working class of shotguns, IMO.

TheKlawMan
October 29, 2011, 12:44 PM
You asked about what new gun to buy and only mentioned the three guns failing to eject as background. While you didn't ask what the cause may have been, I am curious. Were you all using the same 3-1/2" ammo from the same maker. None were more than 2 years old, but when were they last cleaned and is there a chance that getting ready for hunting you practiced with some really nasty ammo that clogged the gas port? When practicing were you shooting 3-1/2" and did they jam? Due to the cost of the big stuff, I doubt it.

Just wondering ig you cannot readily and inexpensively cure the problem with the 11-87; a lot less $$$ than a new gun.

krimmie
October 29, 2011, 01:35 PM
Perhaps look into the Mossberg 935. The price is within your budget and gets favorable reviews. I had one for a few months before it was stolen, and although I only took it into the blind a couple times, it cycled 3" and 3.5" shells reliably. Mine also cycled 2 3/4" heavy loads without any problems, but keep in mind it was not designed for light loads, and will not cycle them reliably.

I felt it was well worth the money at the time, but I cannot give it a complete thumbs up since I didn't have it that long. Here's a link to the model I had, it comes with either 26 or 28" barrels. For about $80 more, it can be had in a camo pattern.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/37_336/products_id/47814

meeko51
October 30, 2011, 02:31 PM
I found an 870 express super mag shoots 3 1/2 in shells and is only $350 new with a camo pattern. Anyone have an opinion on these guns and any possible problems

meeko51
October 30, 2011, 02:40 PM
as to the 1187 i mention in my first post one had a bent piece in the gun not sure what piece it was. The other 1187 i think was a dirty gun problem and the spr453 had gas o ring problem and shoots better now that it was adjusted and cleaned but did cock two shells and jam the next time it was shot. As to the ammo used one 1187 was shooting heavy metal 3 1/2 in the other 1187 was shooting kent fast-steel 3 1/2 in shells and the spr-453 was either shooting kent or heavy metal 3 1/2in

bejay
October 30, 2011, 02:46 PM
the pumps may be very reliable and good value if you want another one,
but I wouldnt hesitate to buy an auto either most can be reliable with a little maintence.