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new_scopeshooter
September 29, 2011, 05:59 AM
I was wondering if the ssar bump stock is leagal to own. Or do I need to go through all the paper work to be able to own one?

rjrivero
September 29, 2011, 06:10 AM
The bump fire stock is un regulated. It's expensive, It's ugly, and it's fun.

woody wood
September 29, 2011, 07:17 AM
way too much money for plastic,does look fun. they would sell a ton of them if they would drop the price!!! what does it really cost to make now that all the equipment is set up-pump them out at a decent price and pay off the start up cost.
yes at this point not regulated.

Logs
October 31, 2011, 04:06 PM
I shot one this weekend and it was fun. The best burst I was able to get was around 7 rounds, but others were able to dump a whole mag. Not sure I would pay $350 for one myself, but it was fun.

MrDontPlay
October 31, 2011, 06:13 PM
I can't wait for the AK version or the 10/22 version!

xMINORxTHREATx
November 1, 2011, 07:49 AM
Ak version? Possible. 10/22 version? Impossible. The concept works on recoil, and a
10/22 has none to speak of. But it would be fun, nonetheless.

But to answer the OP, they are correct. It is unregulated. It is basically an after market stock as far as the government is concerned at this point.

MrDontPlay
November 1, 2011, 12:15 PM
Ak version? Possible. 10/22 version? Impossible. The concept works on recoil, and a
10/22 has none to speak of. But it would be fun, nonetheless.
I bump fire my 10/22 quite often, and there are vids of this stock on m&p 15-22s which have a worse trigger than a 10/22. Besides if you manufacture a rifle accessory, then by law, you have to make it for a 10/22 also.

Willie Lowman
November 1, 2011, 12:49 PM
It's true! ^^^

flight954
November 1, 2011, 01:13 PM
I have 2 of them. I run one on my 9mm suppressed AR with a 100 round Beta mag and I can get an 80 round dump of 115gr before it has to take a breath. The other one is on the 5.56 and that is very easy to dump a 30 round mag. I just picked up the SureFire 60 round mag and have yet to run it.

xMINORxTHREATx
November 1, 2011, 02:00 PM
I could be wrong about the recoil thing. I just don't see a 10/22 making enough force for it to work. Maybe I just misunderstand the physics at work. But if there is a video of a M&P 22 then I am definitely wrong.


But why do they legally have to make a 10/22 version?

Willie Lowman
November 1, 2011, 03:49 PM
They do not have to make a 10/22 version, Mr. Threat

That was what we call a joke.

ripnbst
November 1, 2011, 04:17 PM
You can accomplish the same thing with a regular stock.

You can also accomplish this with a properly sized rubber-band.

Not worth the money IMO. The only reason I'd consider buying one is as an investment. IMO its only a matter of time before these become illegal and when they do you'll be able to sell them for a nice chunk of change.

seansean1444
November 1, 2011, 05:42 PM
get the cops 2 where you are shooting real fast

xMINORxTHREATx
November 1, 2011, 05:54 PM
Willie, I realize that now. haha.

xMINORxTHREATx
November 1, 2011, 06:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uD8n6GMwJc


I stand corrected. :rolleyes:

He said (in his comments) that he had to lighten his trigger down to 4lbs (half the factory pull) and has the "lightest version" of the M&P.

steve1147
November 27, 2011, 11:38 AM
I traded an old Glock 40cal I never shoot at the local gun range for one. It's probably the closest this poor boy will ever come to owning a full-auto!
I don't know why anyone (above post) would have ANY problem going beyond a 7 round burst unless that was all in the clip.
I can stop at 1, 3, or easily dump the entire 30 round clip in under 2 seconds.
The problem is picking-up and reloading all that brass it spits out!!!

RAnb
November 28, 2011, 05:00 PM
I used a SSAR stock on an AR-15 a few weeks ago. It was an ok novelty item. I had to use a loose hold to bump fire. With an M-16 I can hold the stock tightly to my shoulder and control it more. I was all over the 50 yard berm while bump firing; much less control than with an auto sear rifle.

It was fun, but I would not waste the ammo even if the stock was free.

Ranb

kokopelli
December 21, 2011, 06:43 AM
IMO its only a matter of time before these become illegal and when they do you'll be able to sell them for a nice chunk of change.

you wouldn't be able to sell it.
he guys that shelled out the dough for the Akin Accelerator found out how easy it was for 'the man' to take their toys away- uncompensated.

dascottsman
December 30, 2011, 04:47 AM
Had just seen at classicarms.us they are taking arders for the AK47 style of Bumpstock. looks like tons of fun.

Skans
December 30, 2011, 10:51 AM
I wish they made it out of machined aluminum.

theyallhurt
December 30, 2011, 12:12 PM
$350 though...ouch! Looks like fun, but as previously stated it leans on the expensive side. That's a year's dues at my gun club.

dascottsman
December 30, 2011, 12:33 PM
it looks like they are running the AK versoin for 290 with free shipping. Might be too fun to pass up, but might also want to wait for them to work out the kinks too...............

MrDontPlay
December 31, 2011, 12:05 PM
I'm gonna order mine pretty soon.

ripnbst
December 31, 2011, 12:18 PM
It's legal. Go buy one before some criminal ruins all our fun.

V.Oller
December 31, 2011, 10:15 PM
Let's see a select fire M-16 runs around $15k (yes thousand) (+/-) add the $200 tax stamp = pretty expensive.

$350 doesn't seem like all that much when you put it in this perspective.

dascottsman
January 1, 2012, 05:43 AM
That was what I was thinking V.Oller.:D

MrDontPlay
January 1, 2012, 02:40 PM
The AK stock isn't near as ugly as the AR stock either

jersey_emt
February 16, 2012, 02:05 AM
Let's see a select fire M-16 runs around $15k (yes thousand) (+/-) add the $200 tax stamp = pretty expensive.

$350 doesn't seem like all that much when you put it in this perspective.

Precisely. Setting off 600+ rounds per minute (10+ rounds per second) is just plain fun. Expensive fun though.

The "slide fire stock" ($350) with a basic AR-15 ($800) gives you 85% of the fun of a true full-auto AR-15/M16 ($15,200) for for less than 8% of the cost.

It has absolutely no use other than putting a smile on your face and lightening your wallet from buying all the extra ammo you'll need.

Skans
February 16, 2012, 09:31 AM
It has absolutely no use other than putting a smile on your face and lightening your wallet from buying all the extra ammo you'll need.

I don't know that it has absolutely no use - I'd bet folks can get pretty proficient with the bump-fire stock with practice. It would have almost the same usefulness as a full-auto M16. .223 Wolf is cheap - have fun!

jclayto
February 17, 2012, 06:12 PM
Just out of curiosity, from those that have tried both versions of the slidefire is the AK version even easier to bump fire? I am thinking the increased recoil would probably help the bump even more but not sure.

MagnumWill
February 17, 2012, 08:22 PM
Guys, guys, guys.... come on now...



http://www.poormansmachinegun.com/PMMG5.htm

Why spend $300 on an ugly stock when that can go towards ammo? A rubber band is like .02 cents, and readily removable :D It works phenominally on my AES-10B :p

MagnumWill
February 17, 2012, 08:42 PM
Here you go. For your viewing pleasure :)

My AES-10B doing the rubber band bumpfire. It helps to have a foregrip, but it can be done easily without it. Mine has a Romy-G grip to help (which was a pain to put on, mind you :))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f5cZUypbPw&list=HL1329529140&feature=mh_lolz