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Gunslinger
April 4, 2000, 10:33 PM
Since we lost yesterdays post and this thread I'll repost.
Briefly:

We've been talking about big TFL meet so let's do it.

I had proposed a meet the second weekend of August (August 12 & 13) in Sprigfield, Missouri.
Centrally located and plenty of lead time for anyone wishing to attend to make plans early.
I have three and a half (manicured) acres conveniently located five (highway) miles from town that anyone wishing to may camp on.
Springfield has plenty of motel facilities. (Someone had suggested in one of the lost post that there were motels that ofered NRA discounts. If those can be reposted or e-mailed to me I'll check localy and see if I can secure a group discount for the meet.)
We have a conservatioin department range that will allow us to use their facilities. Springfield is the headquarters for Bass Pro Shops and is located just a few miles from Branson (for anyone that cares).
We can have cook outs here and save restuarant expenses.
So far we have:
Don Gwinn
Coineach
HankL
Bob Locke
Joseph (tenative)
12-34hom
Slowpoke Rodringo

I'm still checking to see if we can fire autos on the range but feel confident that we can.

Terridarri and I will arrange everything we can on this end. Anyone interested please post and/or feel free to e-mail her or me for details and/or questions

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Don Gwinn
April 5, 2000, 12:24 AM
Once again, DIBS on Gunslinger's lawn. :D
Maybe Missy will even come with me. She hates gun shows, but a day or two of actually shooting is right up her alley.

Gunslinger
April 5, 2000, 01:02 AM
Don, I'll pick you out a real good shade tree to pitch yer tent under. :D By all means bring 'er along, the moe the merrier.

12-34hom
April 5, 2000, 01:33 AM
Lets ROCK...... :)

terridarri
April 5, 2000, 01:44 AM
We are planning on rocking, its going to be fun, looking forward to meeting you all and welcoming you all to Missouri.

LawDog
April 5, 2000, 02:09 AM
Write me in there as a 'tenative'.

LawDog

George Hill
April 5, 2000, 05:20 AM
I'll make an effort to attend as well...
Sounds like a lot of fun.

Svt
April 5, 2000, 06:57 AM
Count me in as tenative also. I never know what travel plans my work has in stored for me. I get DIBS on the lawn too.

Rich Lucibella
April 5, 2000, 07:56 AM
Moved to George's newly titled Lock and Load Forum.
Rich

fal308
April 5, 2000, 08:13 AM
Count me in too Gunslinger.

Eric of IN
April 5, 2000, 08:20 AM
Gunslinger,
Save me a shady spot too.
You realize you're giving us an excuse to get more guns, because we don't want to be shown up to badly by our fellow members.
Eric

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Miss Demeanors
April 5, 2000, 08:29 AM
Gunslinger & Terridarri,

Count me as tenative as well.

My folks go fishing in Branson MO and Bull Schoals Lake AR every year. Maybe I can hitch a ride with them of go that weekend. lol

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Joseph
April 5, 2000, 09:01 AM
Gunslinger,

If you've got some extra space on that manicured lawn, I'd like to pitch my little bit of heaven, as well! This should be a great time!

Correia
April 5, 2000, 10:03 AM
I wish I could. :( Not very likely though.

Don Gwinn
April 5, 2000, 10:47 AM
HA! I'm not even going to try to acquire enough guns to match any of you! Besides, if Miss D is there I'll have more guns than somebody.

terridarri
April 5, 2000, 11:03 AM
You know Don by the time August gets here Miss D might show us all up.

Spectre
April 5, 2000, 11:25 AM
Tentative.

Miss Demeanors
April 5, 2000, 12:07 PM
Yeah right, Miss D and truck full of guns :D One can only dream.

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Bob Locke
April 5, 2000, 01:25 PM
Since I'll be in Northern CO by then, anyone interested in piling in for the ride?

Guess I'll need to start saving now so that I can be properly supplied with ammo. I'm down to 2 or 3 thousand rounds right now, and that's just not gonna cut it. ;)

Gunslinger
April 5, 2000, 03:17 PM
I spoke with the conservation department range and we have it reserved for TFL members exclusivley on both mornings from 8:00AM until noon. At noon it will open to the public until 4:00PM. It offers pistol, rifle, trap and skeet ranges. Although full autos are not allowed as a rule I am working with the director to allow them for this (special) event and it looks promising.

We are contacting some of the local motels and are negotiating a group discount.

The local Brown Derby has Shriner Bock available in kegs!!! :D

Joseph, yes, there is plenty of room for camping. By the time we get all this organized there may be more tents set up than all those found at that little indian village that Custer ran 'cross back in June o' '76. :D

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Svt
April 5, 2000, 03:23 PM
What distances are the ranges? 25, 50, 100, 200? Hopefully something longer than 200. The private range I belong to here, has 200 for the maximum. :(

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jcoyoung
April 5, 2000, 03:27 PM
Tenative for now. But it looks like I'll be able to attend. Time to start saving ammo!

stubell
April 5, 2000, 05:03 PM
I'm tentative as well.

It'll be between semesters so I'll need to blow off steam. :D

How long are the ranges? Should we bring targets? Will there be competitions?

"This is gonna be so GREAT!" -- Flounder (Animal House)

The Rock
April 5, 2000, 10:12 PM
Pencil The Rock in for this one. Springfield, MO. My gf wants to go see her mom near St. Louis.. Maybe this would work out.


TR

12-34hom
April 6, 2000, 01:47 AM
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee haw!!!!!

Slowpoke_Rodrigo
April 6, 2000, 06:01 AM
Gunslinger -

Hotel chains offering the NRA affinity discount are Days Inn, Ramada, Wingate Inn, Howard Johnson and Travelodge. To get the discount you must make the reservations using the telephone numbers on the back of your membership card, and supply the reservationist with the NRA Benefit ID, also on the back of the card.

Please send me an e-mail if you have any questions.

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Gunslinger
April 6, 2000, 08:28 AM
I'm checking on the distances of the ranges at the conservation department. I'll post that and if we are going to be allowed to use autos as soon s possible.

Thanks Slowpoke, that is what I was needing.
Terridarri and I have been on the phone the last couple of days comparing prices with the various motels looking for the best group rates. Slowpokes info will help in that. As soon as I've established the best prices I'll post them here.

For everyones convenience I'll post mine and Terridarris e-mail address here as links. Anyone needing any info please feel free to e-mail either one of us. :)

Gunslinger can be e-mailed at: gunscustom@aol.com

Terridarri: terridarri@aol.com

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fubsy
April 6, 2000, 06:32 PM
I might be able to make that.....Ill keep track of the thread. save me a motel room Im too old for that ground..lol....besides isnt it hot in august? Whats an out of town fishing license cost?....fubsy.

bergie
April 6, 2000, 09:52 PM
I might be able to make it, that is the last weekend of the World Freefall Convention (4th-13th). If I can schedule things right, maybe I can leave Freefall early and make a detour.

Q: Why would anybody jump out of a perfectly good airplane?
A: because the door was open! :)

Gravity Rules
bergie

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Joseph
April 6, 2000, 10:06 PM
Bergie,

Sounds good to me!

tatters
April 6, 2000, 11:59 PM
Did Missouri vote down the ccw bill a while back?
Does Missouri have restrictive gun laws?
Otherwise I am only 12 hrs away and would love to be there!

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Gunslinger
April 7, 2000, 12:25 AM
Tatters, the right to CCW was lost April 6 last year. However it was not defeated at the polls. It lost through ballot fraud by the sorry $#&^%#* in the state capital. In spite of that it is a gun friendly state and a very gun friendly area. Other than no CCW (A petition is being circulated to abolish the statute creating a Vermont type carry.) the laws in MO are not restrictive.

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Coinneach
April 7, 2000, 02:45 PM
Add one to my berth, and can we stake out a patch of The Lawn? ;)

scottMO
April 7, 2000, 06:12 PM
Count me in too. Reserve me a lawn space. I look forward to meeting everybody.

scottMO

Spectre
April 7, 2000, 07:44 PM
Open carry legal?

Wonder if any Georgians want to carpool?

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Gunslinger
April 7, 2000, 08:52 PM
Coin and Scott, I'll stake out a shade tree for ya'll to pitch your tents under. ;)

Spectre, yes, Missouri does have open carry.

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terridarri
April 7, 2000, 09:26 PM
Gunslinger and I have done some calling different motels to get prices and this is what we have came up with, and these prices are including the NRA discounts and group rate.

(1) Days Inn----they have 69 rooms and the rates are $60 per night and this is like in the middle of Springfield, which is a ways from us.

(2) Motel 6------they have 102 rooms available and the rates there are $33.99 & $39.99 per night and this would be a close distance to us.

(3) American Inn-----they have 171 rooms available and the rates there are $99.00 per night and this is relatively close.

(4) Ramada Inn----they have only 30 rooms available that night and the rates are $75 per night and this is close to us.

(5) Interstate Inn-----they have 141 rooms available that night and the rates are $38.96 and $44.95 per night plus 10% discount for group and this is the closest one to us, just a hop, skip and jump.

(6) Howard Johnsons----they have 50 rooms available and the rates are $75 per night and this is close.

(7) Travel Lodge-----they have 55 rooms available and the rates are $59.95, $52.95, and $49.95 per night and this is quite a distance.

(8) Quality Inn-----they have 197 rooms available and the rates are $75 per night and this close.

We would like to keep the motels advised as much as possible, but I think for the money and we can have the whole motel if we get enough to come is the Interstate Inn because it is close and the rates are good, but its up to what everyone else wants but if someone thinks they will be here and be staying in the motel let us know so we can inform the motel, Gunslinger and I would appreciate this very much, and the ones that want the phone numbers to the motels to make reservations let us know ahead of time and we will contact the motel to let them know you will be calling so you can get the discount because we have spoke immensley to each and everyone to get the best rates and let them know what was happening that weekend.
Thanks,
Terri :)

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Don Gwinn
April 7, 2000, 09:34 PM
Ken, cross-country trips together? You kids are really moving along, aren't you? :D

Missy was not overly enthusiastic. I might be making this trip alone.

Me: "Hey, honey, just so you know, there's going to be a big get together/party kind of thing with all the TFL members in Missouri. Springfield, actually."
SWMBO: "Welll........ I guess. If nothing else comes up."
Me: "Well, I figured we'd plan to go, thus if something did come up, we'd politely say 'no thanks, we'll be in Springfield, MO that weekend.'"
SWMBO: "Yeah, but something really important could come up."
Me: "Like what?"
SWMBO: "Well, you know, like ...... death or something......."

Don Gwinn
April 7, 2000, 09:41 PM
I was excited about being able to open carry for a moment, but the more I think about it, I've never carried before and have no training. Besides, can't be many places in Missouri safer than Gunslinger's lawn or a range with a bunch of TFLers having a fun day.
Frankly (and it kills me to admit this) my initial excitement a moment ago was mostly over the novelty of being able to carry. I'd be doing one of the most dangerous kinds of carrying for no good reason except the novelty of trying it, which isn't good. This was not something good to learn about myself. Now I'm a little sad. To think that I thought that way. I don't know why I'm posting this except that I can't tell this kind of stuff to my friends here because it has the word gun in it.

What's the law on transporting guns in the car? I certainly will keep a loaded gun handy if there's a legal way to do that in the car.

Spectre
April 8, 2000, 02:15 PM
Don, sorry you feel that way. Please email me, and we can discuss this.

Regards,
John

scottMO
April 8, 2000, 05:57 PM
Are we planning anything Friday night or primarily Sat/Sun?

I will take the phone # for the interstate inn (#5 on the list). I will prob need a room just Sat night unless we get the party going Fri too.

scottMO

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Patrick Graham
April 9, 2000, 09:16 AM
Can I bring my Garand?

Gunslinger
April 9, 2000, 10:36 AM
Missouri Carry: While we don't have concealed carry (yet), open carry is permitted. Transporting loaded firearms in the passenger compartment and accessible to the driver/passengers is legal as long as it is not concealed. My suggestion would be if stopped lay the gun on the dash (as far away from from driver and passenger as possible) place your hands on the wheel and inform the officer that you have a loaded gun on the dash. Missouri law enforcment is actualy used to this and will not be alarmed. The standard response is for them to ask to look at the gun, unload and return it with the request that you not reload it until they are safely back in their car. ;)

Friday Night: Anyone wishing to come in early is welcome. Terridarri and I will be available at any point in the week prior to the meet. We can get together earlier in the week for b/s session, maybe eat a burger or whatever. Warning: Anyone arriving early will risk being snagged by either Terridarri or myself into helping with the preparations of setting up tables, preparing the bar-b-que or the myrad of other task that are going to be done prior to the meet. :D

Range: We went to the new conservation department range, which is approximately five miles from my house, yesterday and checked it out. It was nice to see tax dollars being spent this way. This place is beautiful! Twenty covered shooting bays. Beautiful grounds, plenty of parking and seating with two trap/skeet ranges. Because of the baffeling system the use full auto is not allowed and the maximaum range is only 100 yards. However I often shoot here (on my property) and am going to ask my neighbor, who is a shooter, if we can set up a target on his place and shoot some from mine. I'm sure he will be amialbe to this and it will give us 500 to 600 yards. Those wanting to may also shoot their full autos here.
Weapons: Any and all weapons are allowed on the range. We just can't fire thme full auto while there.
Patrick, yes this means you may bring your Garand. ;) I don't think anyone will be disappointed in these facilities. :)



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terridarri
April 9, 2000, 12:34 PM
I have done some checking on the motels and I found out that the Interstate Inn is probably be the best bet for everyone, I spoke again this morning to them and they are giving us unbelievable rates, better than normal, this motel has alot of advantages since it is the cheapest in town and it the closest to our house. So I'm going to post the new rates again and the phone number. I did tell them people would be calling in to make reservations and they would identify themselves by being with the TFL or The Firing Line group, so please mention this when calling.

1st floor-----$33.00 for 1, $6 per person if more than one person.

2nd floor-----$30.00 for 1, $6 per person if more than one person.

3rd floor-----$24.00 for 1, $6 per person if more than one person.

Then after the 10th reservation, everyone gets a 10% discount on the prices above.

Phone nos. (417) 833-1550
SORRY THE MOTEL HAS NO TOLL FREE NO.

They have 141 rooms available so if anyone is going to make reservations please try to make them early because there is a chance the whole motel will be nothing but TFL'ers, I did mention to the motel mgr. this was a possibility that we would need the whole motel.

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fubsy
April 9, 2000, 02:24 PM
Ya'll have been very busy and put out some good information, tks very much, Im still waiting for a response from work. I will be their I believe.........btw, how big is the hotels gun safe?.....fubsy.

Gunslinger
April 9, 2000, 03:14 PM
Motel gun safe.....hmm......interesting concept. :D Actualy SVT and I discussed weapon security, via e-mail, a few days ago. (He brought it to my attention, thank you SVT.) I am going to establish a "secure room" here that only Terridarri and I have a key to for anyone needing to secure additional weapons when not in use. We request anyone bringing weapons that will need to be secured to bring cases if they have them (to avoid scratches when stored with several others) and to please tag them for quick identification.

Yes we have been busy with planning. What has been mentioned here is actualy only the tip of what is being put into this meet. We are inquiring about tables/folding chairs, discount pricing on food, beer, soft drinks etc. for the meet, port-a-potties, preparing the out building (40'X80') in the event of imclimate weather and the list goes on. (It's a lot of work but a labor of love ;)) We're hoping for a couple hundred TFL'ers or more, which was the reasoning for starting the thread early. We hope to have everything perpared so that all the TFL'ers have to do is show up and have fun without having to worry about the details. fal308, who lives three hours from here, volunteered a few days ago, again via e-mail, to come down soon and help with arrangments and agian a day or two in advance and help with the final preparations. Thanks fal. :)

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Gunslinger

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terridarri
April 9, 2000, 05:41 PM
Fubsy,
Thanks for recognizing our efforts, it makes us want to work harder at this, we plan on making this very exciting for everyone and making it a very memorable trip for all TFL members and who else that will be with them, it will consist of alot of work, but once it is done and all over with it will have been worth it all, just thanks again. :) :) :)

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Svt
April 9, 2000, 06:28 PM
If anybody from Pennsylvania would like to go but does not want to drive to Mizz, email me and you can possibly ride with me in my Jeep Grand Cherokee. I live in central PA. I'm driving instead of flying so I can haul all my toys and ammo :)

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scottMO
April 9, 2000, 10:31 PM
Anyone bringing a .50 cal? Please?!?!

Gunslinger and Terriderri,
I want to thank you both for the work that you've already done and the work that is ahead of you.

I might suggest occationally posting in the General Discussion Forum. I, for one, dont always read all of the forums and stumbled upon this. We might miss some of those who would like to attend.

scottMO


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Joseph
April 9, 2000, 10:59 PM
Gunslinger:

You are going to run into some expenses doing all this! Can we pitch in??

All Carolinians: I'm driving up from Charlotte, to arrive on Friday for early doin's. Anyone want to jump aboard?? Email me!

jcoyoung
April 9, 2000, 11:25 PM
Whoo Hoo! Started page 2.

Ok, ok, ok! You've talked me into this. Change my status from 'tenative' to 'definite'. Oh, and save me a little patch of grass to camp on. :) And Joe brings up a good point about the 'monetary assistance'. I'm sure most of us will have no trouble chipping in.

Gunslinger/Terriderri: Thank you so much for organizing this event. Sounds like it'll be a hoot!

BTW: Is the 'open carry' good for non-residents? (Vermont Style)

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Eric of IN
April 10, 2000, 08:01 AM
I also want to thank Gunslinger, and Terridarri for hosting this. Also, if anyone wants to ride shotgun (In both the literal and figurative sense) from Indy, the seats open.
Eric

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Svt
April 10, 2000, 11:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by scottMO:
Anyone bringing a .50 cal? Please?!?!

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I'll bring my Barrett 95 if you supply the ammo and clean it afterwards :)



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Coinneach
April 10, 2000, 11:42 AM
Don, check yerself... Cindy lurks herabouts. :D

Jack 99
April 10, 2000, 03:04 PM
Better look out, ya'll, this could be looked upon as a "militia movement" and I'm sure some or most of you fit the FBI profile of a terrorist. Now all you need is a few pro-RKBA bumper stickers and the JBTs have all the excuse they need.

Gunslinger
April 10, 2000, 04:39 PM
Thank you for all the praise but to be honest the credit all goes to Terridarri. She is the one doing all the calling and planning. I'm just......well.......hmm.......I must be doing something.

Our goal is three fold. One is to arrange it so everyone knows exactly how much the meet is going to cost them in advance with everything included. That way no one has to concern themselves with any unexpected expenses later.
The second goal is to keep the cost as low as possible. We'd like to see as many members as possible be able to attend and keeping the cost low will help. Unfortuately that will require money. However with the preplanning that is going into it and by doing a lot of "shopping" we are anticipating a cost of from $10 to $20. No more! That will include everything in the above post as well as a few other things that we are still working on.
Combined this will acheive our third goal which is to have fun!

Forum location: We have posted the meet in the General Discussion forum twice but the staff is trying to steamline that forum by moving the meeting post here. Besides George was getting lonesome down here. ;) It was receiving more responses in the GD forum and many of the members have not "discovered" the meetings have been moved yet. (George posted a thread in GD (Lock and Load) to direct members here.) This thread will reach 100k soon and have to be restarted. If the staff have no objections we will reopen it back in GD. If not members will discover it here eventually. The staff knows a dang sight more about moderating than I do so I will defer to their judgment. One suggestion on that topic though. If any of you notice the name of someone whom you would realy like to meet at the get together that is conspicuiosuly absent here send them a personal invite via e-mail and direct them to the link.

One last item: Any and all suggestions, ideas, thoughts or whatever are more than welcome. Again you can either post here or feel free to e-mail either myself gunscustom@aol.com or Terridarri terridarri@aol.com . To paraphrase the Motel 6 commmercial; "We'd love ot hear from ya.' :)

Thank you to Slowpoke Rodrigo for volunteering, via e-mail, to drive three hours and help before the meet. :)

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scottMO
April 10, 2000, 04:45 PM
SVT,
I'm in on the .50 cal deal. 5 or so rounds should be plenty for me. I would be proud to clean it!!!!!

you guys (and gals) are great,

scottMO

Spectre
April 10, 2000, 05:15 PM
Thanks for all your efforts. I think this is a super opportunity for all of us here to shakes hands with some "cyber-family". :)...Also thinking this would be great place for personalized TFL shirts! (To save: I'm John. I post as...)

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terridarri
April 10, 2000, 08:11 PM
Thanks again for everyones support, it is appreciated very much.

Fubsy,
I called the local store for you tonight and the out of state fishing license is $35 or you can get a daily pass for $5 each day.

Someone earlier asked about the open carrier laws in Missouri, it is legal for out of state just the same as residents.

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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Dennis
April 10, 2000, 08:54 PM
Gunslinger and Terridarri,
Thanks for hosting what may become a VERY big deal!!

Let's close this big, slow-loading thread.
Open one in General Discussion and let's see how big *that* one becomes!