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Garanddaddy
May 28, 2011, 01:42 PM
Been searching for a accurate .308 (custom or stock) under 4k. The m21 with a krieger barrel looks great but then so many custom AR-10s like Les Baer are showing extreme accuracy as well. Anyone have any other ideas?

hooligan1
May 28, 2011, 01:51 PM
GA Precision out of Kansas City!! google it, because I'm not smart enough with this stupid "smartbox" contraption to post up the link.:o

Eghad
May 28, 2011, 02:04 PM
I have a SA Supermatch I bought back in 1990 for a whole $1200 brand new. I imagine those have just about doubled in price now.

RT
May 28, 2011, 02:49 PM
Larue OBR
http://larueosr.com/obr.aspx

LMT
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=2028

KAC
http://www.knightarmco.com/sr25.html

My fav, even though it's not a semi-auto
AI
http://www.accuracyinternational.com/ae_series.php

bfoosh006
May 28, 2011, 03:34 PM
I've got a M21 and love it.... but its kinda fussy, LOL.

Get the Les Baer, that will be my next .308.

SR420
May 28, 2011, 04:03 PM
Sub MOA accuracy AND extreme reliability, a custom M14 built by Smith Enterprise, Inc.

Go with a Medium heavy barrel if you want a USGI synthetic stock.
Go with a standard or medium heavy weight barrel if you choose the SAGE EBR chassis.


This is one of my recent SEI builds, I used a Poly Tech receiver to lower the total cost.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/The_H2O_MAN/MK14EBR-RI/M14 EBR-RINM-SEI/IMG_5185.jpg

BOPLEO
May 28, 2011, 04:17 PM
FNAR

Volucris
May 28, 2011, 04:19 PM
Go here:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=35&page=1

This board is meant for a much more general audience and simple questions. There are just too many "i saw it in a video game so it must be good" people here. Plenty of knowledgeable people but they're just more concentrated on a board like SH where that's the primary focus.

Microgunner
May 28, 2011, 04:27 PM
Don't know if you're asking about paramilitary or any semi-auto .308 but the best I've ever shot, unmodified out of the box, was my Browning BAR Safari. 1/2" 100 yard groups first time at the range.
The most accurate bolt .308 I've ever owned was my Remington 700VS. 1/4" 100 yard groups unmodified out of the box.

Garanddaddy
May 28, 2011, 09:32 PM
I really appreciate all the input, but I think I should be a little more specific. I want a semi .308 that can shoot .5 MOA or under and is unquestionably reliable (and I do like tactical rifles). Ya, I know .5 MOA for a semi is rare but I have heard m21s and custom AR-10s getting .3 groupings. Anyone have much experience with anyone of the rifles RT or hooligan posted about? I have seen the Smith Enterprise m14s but can they shoot half an inch at 100yards?

Jimro
May 28, 2011, 09:49 PM
When you say "most accurate" you are setting yourself up for failure.

Because while there are plenty of factory rifles, and even custom rigs, in your price range that are guaranteed to do sub MOA groups, the "most accurate" one will vary from day to day and ammo lot to ammo lot.

The easiest way to get into the accurate gas gun is to get an LR-308. They usually do sub MOA with match ammo.

If you want a custom solution you can contact GAP or Patriot Ordnance and have one built for you. But I recommend the LR-308 because unless you are a better shot than someone who normally asks about "the most accurate semi-auto 308 under 4K" you should try to spend around 1.5k on the rifle, 500 to 1k on the optics, and the rest on ammo.

Jimro

Volucris
May 28, 2011, 11:07 PM
If you're just shooting at 100 yards then get a bolt. 100 yards is fudd range. Find some place that goes to 1000 or you won't take advantage of any good AR-10. The GA Precision AR10 or the LMT MWS with about $1000 into a Vortex scope is a good start.

p99guy
May 29, 2011, 12:06 AM
Fulton Armory Titan .308 is a great rifle.

madcratebuilder
May 29, 2011, 07:53 AM
The best shooting AR .308 platform has NOVESKE on the barrel;)

My Noveske 21" stainless barreled AR10 consistently shoots 1moa with DAG surplus and half that with 168gr match grade ammo. It is a very easy rifle to shoot accurately. It has put my M1A's in to semi retirement.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/AR10/AR10noveske01.jpg

tulsamal
May 29, 2011, 09:21 AM
Get the Les Baer, that will be my next .308.

I have to agree with that. Amazing rifles.

Gregg

Blackops_2
May 29, 2011, 10:50 AM
Les Baer, GAP, LMT, or KAC would be my vote. Preferably KAC because i want a M110 or a MK11 bad, but they're over 4k i believe. GAP guarantees 3/4ths MOA accuracy or better.
http://www.gaprecision.net/ga-precision-2011-custom-rifles/ga-precision-g.a.-precision-gap-10-.html
They do use POF uppers, which is good but i like the look of a regular LMT or KAC over the POF rails and such. Sure it's not about aesthetics in some sense but i like my rifles to look the way i want them to.

LWRC REPR is also another to look at. It's right at 3k, i like the side charging handle also.

REPR Reviews:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1502748
http://weww.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2262963
http://weww.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2478051&page=1

REPR videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9QCqEG9gEs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrwiRI93Lgc

I'm not subject to the REPR i do like it. It's just when i first heard of it i looked up quite a bit of info on it.

Kentucky_Rifleman
May 30, 2011, 04:16 PM
SR420, Nice rifle!

KR

coulter6
June 1, 2011, 04:17 PM
My JP LRP-07 is a very accurate rifle. The 18" supermatch barrel is outstanding.

Garanddaddy
June 2, 2011, 12:09 AM
Thanks for all of the feedback, but anyone have any info on the Fulton Dreadnought? I heard a Fulton Titan on this thread but nothing much else. Also I see alot of piston driven ARs here also, so are they more accurate than the conventional AR platform?

coulter6
June 2, 2011, 09:23 AM
There's a new piston driven .308 out from Primary Weapons. PWS MK216 Rifle, 7.62x51. Very light (compared to other piston AR) and well balanced.
http://primaryweapons.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=239&idcategory=25#details

wwd88888
June 2, 2011, 10:37 AM
Based on everything I've seen / read, you can get a sub-moa bolt action rifle for well under $900. I've no clue about semi-auto options. Spending $4000 or more on a "precision" rifle is something done for bragging rights or by military procurement officers.

SR420
June 2, 2011, 10:44 AM
Kentucky_Rifleman SR420, Nice rifle!

KR

Thank you!

This one is just as accurate, but it won't reach out as far as the first one.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/The_H2O_MAN/MK14EBR-RI/IMG_5025.jpg

tINY
June 2, 2011, 11:54 AM
JP Enterprise's LRP07 is worth a look too.

..but then, I really don't like the AR charging handle on a precision rifle - you have to get out of position to use it...




-tINY

Blackops_2
June 2, 2011, 08:08 PM
Tiny a few companies have side charging handle modifications, which would eliminate most of the unnecessary movement of the charging handle in the rear.

coulter6
June 4, 2011, 04:50 PM
The JP LRP-07 has a left side charging handle.

HiBC
June 5, 2011, 02:43 PM
See the thread "New Krieger barrel in AR-10 shoots"Might give you an idea of one option.
Brother just stuck a Kreiger in his old wore out AR-10T.He ordered it,he installed it.He loaded the ammo.He shot it.He got the bbl last Friday,the next AM he went out on the NE Colorado grasslands,on a private ranch,and shot this after he had 20 rds of break in clean and got on target.Range was measured with a Leica 1200.the 5mph wind was measured with a Kestrel.
He is not a sniper.He is not a veteran.He has never competed in a rifle match.
He builds roads.
He does ask me questions,and listens.I can't upload the pic here,as it is already on the other thread.Its 600 yds,one three shot group inside 3 inches.He e-mailed it to me to tell me he was happy with his new bbl.