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Tucker 1371
May 13, 2011, 05:48 AM
The one I was issued was a POS, I need something that would be comfortable, able to be set up for a left handed shooter, and good with armor on; money is no object, suggestions?

Not limited to 3 points but one points are a no go, I'm too short to have a full size M16 with a 1-point.

I bought a Spec Ops Mamba sling but I'm almost 100% certain I have it on wrong, if anyone can show me a pic of it set up that would be appreciated, thanks,

- LCpl Williams

sailskidrive
May 13, 2011, 06:03 AM
>>The one I was issued was a POS, I need something that would be comfortable and good with armor on, money is no object, suggestions?

Isn't it funny how some issue gear is over the top quality and some of it is such junk? "Lost cost, technically acceptable" comes to mind.

Many years ago, I remember in basic training our drill sergeant marching us down to the BX on a Saturday morning. "Anyone who wants to buy some real PT shoes, you have 20 minutes." They probably issue better ones now.

Jimro
May 13, 2011, 06:39 AM
The MAMBA isn't a bad sling, especially for a full size M16. I used one on my M4 in Iraq and it worked fine.

Here are the instructions to set up your MAMBA on your M16. http://www.specopsbrand.com/pdf/MAMBAFixedButt.pdf

With body armor nothing is either easy or natural, and any sling you put around your shoulders is going to ride up and dig into your neck at some point.

I know that a single point sling may be wrong for you, but a wolf hook http://www.patriotoutfitters.com/scripts/z.exe/sbproc?action=sp15111 in addition to your MAMBA will give you a quick way to attach the rifle to your firing shoulder to take the weight so that the 3 point strap doesn't dig into your neck.

Jimro

Bartholomew Roberts
May 13, 2011, 08:07 AM
I am not sure what kind of equipment constraints you have; but 3-point slings are generally a bad solution for anything. Have you looked at the 2-point quick adjust slings like the Vickers VCAS, the Viking VTAC, or the Magpul MS2?

Jimro
May 13, 2011, 04:21 PM
Bartholomew Roberts,

Would kindly explain yourself, and exactly how you came to that conclusion?

Jimro

Bartholomew Roberts
May 13, 2011, 04:45 PM
I came to that conclusion by owning and using a Specter Gear (actually the previous name of that company, which I have now forgotten) SOP 3-point Sling. No longer being in the military, I'm not forced to use gear I dislike, so I ditched the 3-point for s Single point MOUT sling from the same company that better suited my purpose.

My specific complaints with the 3-point sling are:

1. When rigged for left handed shooters, the strap along the weapon occasionally deflects shells back into the ejection port, making for less than satisfactory operation.

2. When rigged for any shooter, the additional strap rides between the weapon and your chest, meaning any chest mounted pouches or gear have the potential of snagging the strap and interfering with your use of the rifle.

As a result, I feel they are a bad solution for any use since a 2-point quick adjust sling is capable of doing every single thing the 3-point sling can do (and at the same price point); but it doesn't have the extra strap that is the source of most of the problems in the 3-point sling. Does that clarify it for you?

Jimro
May 14, 2011, 08:33 AM
Bartholmew Roberts,

Yes that explains your opinion. The three point worked well for me since it let the rifle hang very naturally on my right side, out of the way but ready to be put into action. Since I kept my mag pouches in front there was nothing for the side strap to snag on when I brought my weapon to bear.

Pretty quickly into the deployment I put a 550 cord loop on my right shoulder to take the weight of the rifle as to prevent the sling from riding up and rubbing my neck raw, which is a problem with any sling and body armor.

Jimro

Quentin2
May 14, 2011, 09:04 AM
The earlier name of the Specter 3-point was CQB Solutions. The Giles sling also was a popular 3-point a few years back.

I have a CQB Solutions that I actually like but it is complex with the extra strap. I agree that it's better to go with a 2-point today. I'm trying to decide between the VCAS and VTAC. Both are so highly recommended I'll probably get both and sell the one I like least.

chris in va
May 14, 2011, 09:36 AM
Many years ago, I remember in basic training our drill sergeant marching us down to the BX on a Saturday morning. "Anyone who wants to buy some real PT shoes, you have 20 minutes." They probably issue better ones now.

I remember that.:D

Should have also bought different boots too while I was at it. Those hard soled issue boots were the worst. Mil Spec and all that jazz.

RT
May 14, 2011, 10:55 AM
http://vickerstactical.com/larry-vickers-products/vickers-combat-sling/

slohand
May 14, 2011, 11:12 AM
http://www.tacticallink.com/Stealth_Bungee_Single_Point_Sling.html

RockyMtnTactical
May 14, 2011, 01:23 PM
Why not try a 2-Point Quick Adjust? Does it have to be a 3-Point Sling?