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April 15, 2011, 01:26 PM
Not having luck with a search so here's my question.

Can someone point me to posts in his group that pertain to trigger jobs on Winchester model 94s? My gun is really the model 64 but same action although the older style.

Took my 64 to gunsmith, waited 3 months, got it back with 5 lb pull when ordered 3 lb. Initially when I got it home it had a hair trigger--cock it and bump the butt with hand and hammer would fall. Then, and I don't know why, it went to about 5 lbs. Then, it got to where the hammer wouldn't stay back on full cock. Lever it and the hammer would come back to the safety cock position. Now, if I take it easy I can, usually, get it to stay back on full cock--but, with a hair trigger and definitely not safe.

Come hell or high water I'll get this trigger job done myself. New parts may be needed. Have all necessary tools. I also have J.B. Woods Assembly/Disassembly book.

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kirbythegunsmith
April 15, 2011, 11:39 PM
I don't want you to think that trigger work is not a big deal for amateurs, regardless if you have the tools available, or not.

The fact that you got hosed by a goof is not a valid reason to decide to make your own way any more than a botched doctor visit should make you contemplate doing your own appendectomy.

Some "gunsmiffs" bite off a job that they have no ability to perform, and are too dense to realize that they are totally lacking in talent in that direction.

Another point to be made is that a poundage is not always a do-able request, regardless of what a customer asks to receive.
A Lever-action deer rifle is not a gun needing a 3 lb. pull, since field safety is going to trump the desire for bench-test accuracy.

The details that you have already recounted are enough to make me think that the repair shop owes a refund and parts replacement, plus a promise to never try such a job ever again.

You need a competent trigger job done, so don't make the same mistake that the last shop made and attempt to learn "on the job", since the others in your vicinity will the ones taking the most chance being around that gun after the fact.

If anyone has no experience with this facet of gunsmithing, then they may have no experience to realize what level of engagement, contact angles, and other alterations are within the realm of safe conversion of factory-made components.

Safety is more important than wanting to do a job for yourself- if the end result has so much at stake as the possibility of an accidental discharge due to alteration error.

Kirby
Trained gunsmith and mechanical specialist

Scorch
April 19, 2011, 11:49 AM
I have to agree with kirbythegunsmith. Having fixed many trigger jobs over the years, I would advise you to not try it yourself. Get the person who tried the trigger job to refund your money, then have it repaired properly by someone who knows what they are doing.

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May 14, 2011, 10:17 AM
Thanks for your responses.

Another important thing to consider about doing gun work yourself is not only how it effects your personal safety but also the safety of others who may later own the gun.

I do believe a 3 lb pull is doable by a truly competent gunsmith. Might take lots of time and be costly--but doable and resulting in a safe gun.

I'm sure lots of times a gunsmith cannot do some jobs well and still charge the customer what they are willing to pay. This needs to be explained to customer and either the job gets done right (for a high fee) or not at all.

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