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randomvalleyguy
April 6, 2011, 03:53 PM
I a cheap versatile shotgun that I wouldn't be afraid to be rough with. I got the Hawk 982 because I liked the weight, sights, barrel length, price and capacity. It's accurate for an 18.5" barrel, but one small problem. When the weapon is not cocked, and no round in chamber, the pump is very loose. I can have the fore grip all the way up, point the muzzle up and hold the gun vertical, and the fore-grip will drop an inch and the bolt will slide back a tad bit. It is an annoyance more than anything, but I was wondering if it is some type of weird Chinese safety feature or if I got a defective weapon. I'd love to find a way to get it to stay in place.

TheKlawMan
April 6, 2011, 06:28 PM
Rounds in the magazine or not? Either way my 870 doesn't do that.

(Edit: After reading that everyone else's 870 and Wingmaster did this, I realized you were talking about an uncocked gun. I went back and tested it uncocked and it tends to drop a quarter inch to an inch. Mine is fairly new Express with perhaps 700 rounds through it.)

nogo
April 6, 2011, 06:47 PM
My 870 Wingmaster will drop more than this when action not cocked and gun held vertical. Why? It's smooth from use.

I see no problem with your gun. Gravity is pulling down on a mass not locked in place.

Dfariswheel
April 6, 2011, 07:21 PM
This is entirely common with many shotguns and the Remington 870 and it's clones.

"Back in the day" people used to brag that they could point an un-cocked Winchester Model 12 up and the slide and bolt would open all the way.

This is something with the 870 types that can be a slight problem. If you allow the slide to move back slightly, you can't feed shells into the magazine easily.

TheKlawMan
April 6, 2011, 08:43 PM
See my edit above. My 870 indeed does the same thing when uncocked.

zippy13
April 6, 2011, 09:26 PM
Greetings randomvalleyguy, and welcome aboard

Your description of, "When the weapon is not cocked, and no round is in the chamber, the pump is very loose," describes a pump shotgun that has been closed on an empty chamber and then the trigger pulled. Cocked pump shotguns unlock when their trigger is pulled whether or not there is a round in the chamber. If you want the fore-end to remain locked, simply don't pull the trigger. If you consider the various functions of the firing sequence of a typical pump action shotgun you'll understand what is happening:
Fire
Set disconnector (disengages the trigger), unlock action
Pull back slide

Extract
Eject
Cock hammer
Release round from magazine

Push slide forward
Lift/position round
Chamber round
Lock action, release disconnector (activates the trigger)

Drop hammer at full trigger pull
Repeat the cycle

The gun doesn't know if there if the chamber is empty, so it functions the same way -- loaded, or not.

randomvalleyguy
April 14, 2011, 09:23 PM
I realize it was probably a stupid question, I just don't have much experience with shotguns in general and was rather curious about it. I want to thank everyone who took the time to reply. I've fired well over 200 rounds from my Hawk 982, and I'm very satisfied with it. Even though it's Chinese, I think it's a great weapon for the price.

kemassey
April 15, 2011, 06:33 PM
My model 97 will drop a little when it isn't cocked. When cocked the slack is gone. I just learned this a couple weeks ago.