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jproaster
April 4, 2011, 09:20 PM
Greetings.
I want to build an AR15. I want it to be multifunctional, (self defense and hunting are primary). I'm just learning; so I won't know what to ask about the ar. I am wanting to have a build done by Christmas. Can I build quality for $1K?

What I'm interested in is the 6.8. Read at various places about the expense being a bit high. I'm also a new reloader (9,40, and 357 sig), but will look into a setup for the ar.

Thanks,
john

rjrivero
April 4, 2011, 09:43 PM
What are you hunting with your AR? What distances? What kind of environment?

I was looking into a bigger caliber round for my recent AR project, and decided on 300 BLACKOUT.

The magazines are interchangeable with .223/5.56. No fancy followers needed. The bolt is the same as the standard .223/5.56 as well.

If you already relaod, it's easy to form the 300 BLACKOUT brass from the ubiquitous .223 cases. Bullet variety for .308 is as big as it gets.

It won't be the right round for "LONG" distance shooting. I probably wouldn't hunt those large North Woods White Tails with it past 100 yards or so either.

But it fit the bill for what I wanted.

jproaster
April 5, 2011, 07:05 AM
My location is SE Tennessee. I don't see a need over 300 yds- which is why I felt the 6.8 might be the right caliber and the versitility to switch out to 5.56.

I'm reading a good bit; if anyone wants to give a link or what have you....

john

bedlamite
April 5, 2011, 07:56 AM
Generally you get what you pay for, but $1K is enough for a decent rifle.

With that budget, I'd get an ARP upper (http://ar15performance.com/6_8_spcii_16__ss_hunter_upper_) and an EA lower kit (http://www.essentialarms.com/LOWERSANDPARTS.HTML)

Longdayjake
April 5, 2011, 10:13 AM
Here is a complete lower for $179. I don't know what shipping is but it should bring you under $200 for the lower. http://surplusammo.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=33&products_id=504


And Bedlamite's link to an upper is probably the one I would go with.

http://ar15performance.com/6_8_spcii_16__ss_hunter_upper_

However, if you really want to get it down to about $600 you could build your own upper and use a cheap hand guard.

The rifle doesn't have to be any more expensive than a 5.56 rifle. However, you are going to have to pay good money for some ammo. If you are buying factory ammo expect to pay the same price as you would for .308 or .30-06 hunting rounds. If you handload, there are no cheap .277 bullets like there are .308 and .223. Just make sure you are buying a gun that you can afford to shoot and not one that will just sit in you safe looking cooler than your buddy's 5.56 that he shoots all the time.

goodspeed(TPF)
April 5, 2011, 12:58 PM
http://thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=69100&stc=1&d=1302026239

6.8 is fun and accurate but about as expensive as good quality hunting ammo. There is no free ride with surplus like .556 or 7.62.

rjrivero
April 5, 2011, 01:03 PM
My location is SE Tennessee. I don't see a need over 300 yds- which is why I felt the 6.8 might be the right caliber and the versitility to switch out to 5.56.

I'm reading a good bit; if anyone wants to give a link or what have you....

john

www.aacblackout.com

If you want to build your own, then consider using one from Delta Company. LINK (http://www.deltacompanyarms.com/categories/AR%252d15/Pre%252dfit-Barrels/) Nothing fancy. Just a stainless steel barrel.

jproaster
April 5, 2011, 01:05 PM
Your point about being expensive to shoot is valid. Did I read correctly that 6.8 and 5.56 uppers can be swapped out? That is one reason I chose the 6.8- diversity. If I can't swap, (which I know will cost considerably more than 1K when finished), then I'll probably just go 5.56.

john

At this point btw, I'm not really looking into the parts. I'm looking for the right build - self defense and hunting (deer, maybe some hogs).

jproaster
April 5, 2011, 01:09 PM
Goodspeed,
Why did you go this caliber?

john

rjrivero
April 5, 2011, 01:26 PM
Did I read correctly that 6.8 and 5.56 uppers can be swapped out? That is one reason I chose the 6.8- diversity.

Yes. The uppers can be swapped out at will. 6.8, 300 Blackout, 6.5 Grendel, etc will all fit in the standard AR lower.

goodspeed(TPF)
April 5, 2011, 04:29 PM
Goodspeed,
Why did you go this caliber?

john

Because it says BARRETT on the side. :D

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Seriously though. I wanted something different, that wasn't an "also-ran". I really don't put that much thought into it as to scramble my brain as I have plenty of tools to get the job done already. Barrett put a lot of time and R&D into the M468/Rec-7 series as well as having a good reputation as an arms manufacturer/supplier so I thought I'd give one a try. With Barrett ammo I am under an inch at 100yds. It hits a little harder than the 5.56 and recoil is hardly noticeable. You can't compare high quality ammo to cheap plinking ammo on the same financial scale. If you compare 6.8 premium ammo to other premium ammo in popular calibers then it's a pretty level playing field. Other than no "surplus" ammo available for it it's a win all around. What's not to like? I wonder where my Barrett would fall on "The Chart"? :D



Edit: It will damage more meat than a 5.56 in the WI deer though. That's not always a bad thing if ya catch my drift.;)

jgraham
April 5, 2011, 09:52 PM
I love my 6.8 but to confuse you a little more check out this link

http://www.wilsoncombat.com/762x40WT.htm

The Wilson Combat 7.62X40WT. it looks like it could be a great hunting round for the AR!

Also SSA has a 6.8 round that they sell for $200 for 250 rounds. Its not a hunting round but would make a great round to shoot at the range. Also Wilson Combat has started producing 6.8 ammo. It is expensive but probably the best factory ammo out there for the 6.8 at the moment.